Why do people want to see skin anyway? I've never really understood that part.
It's simply how our society has evolved. We've grown accustomed to covering ourselves and many people have been taught that being naked is 'shameful' and such. As a result, showing more skin than one is 'supposed to' tends to be quite titillating, if you pardon the pun.
Now, if you look at the more primitive cultures of, say, the various rainforests across the world you see that people generally don't have much of a problem of walking around with their junk out. :P
I can see it now... the best set of armor in the game will end up being.... a Speedo (for males) and the Bikini Set (for females). Yep. I can see a few players rejoicing when that happens.
*sings* "I like Gammera! He's so neat!!! He is full of turtle meat!!!"
"Hah! You are doomed! You're only armed with that pathetic excuse for a musical instrument!!!" *the Savage Beast moments before Lonnehart the Bard used music to soothe him... then beat him to death with his Fat Lute*
This thread shows how polarized this issue can be and why NW should change nothing or very little. The fact that those with polarized views are playing the game now is proof they've found the right balance. Go too far in either direction and they'll have one side up in arms. Perhaps at least change the shirt and pants to where the visuals can be disabled. At least the shirt if it has to be one or the other.
Even if i am a muslim, that would be none of your business, at all. I am european. If i want to see nude girls i can just take a look out of the window past 11 pm. Many people, myself included are pretty much fed up with the sexy - style mmo designs lately. NW however doesn't have any overly sexy armors/clothes, which in fact is a good thing.
I am against erotic roleplay in videogames for obvious reasons, since kids are playing this game, too. If anybody wants to get laid, there are a few little steps to follow: 1. grow up, 2. stop playing videogames - 24/7, 3. find a gf/bf. But keep your nuts calm and leave that bs out of videogames that little children have got access to.
For which other reason than e-rp would you want to have "sexy outfits"? care to explain?
Um I could just put courtesan wear on and still have full stats, don't know how that doesn't count as a sexy outfit. Thing is everyone has their own opinion, just like I shouldn't tell you that my way is right and you're dumb for not listening, you can't tell everyone that wants to dress their character how they want not to. Agreed that games today are very "light" on female clothing lol, but it doesn't look like that's going to change anytime soon. I think that in the name of customization the devs will grant OP's request, however I don't really care one way or another as I can customize my character quite a bit without showing a lot of skin.
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We are definitely dominating, and we are always about to win.
Oh don't give me that "disrespectful towards women" tripe! What do you call men running around in their skivvies bare chested?
I don't need to be "protected" by white knights, thank you very much, and I'm pretty sure a lot of women would agree.
I actually happen to be a woman and share a feminist viewpoint on the issue, which seems to be a horribly offensive crime these days. Topic starter clearly wanted to have a little scantily dressed female character running around, that's why "cleavage" (unless he meant a horribly obese dwarf with gynecomastia). So yes, your point is moot, just like the rest of your post with the stereotypical "no, they want hijabs" remark.
2. Physics says that the 100' long dragon, smashing down on you with it's multi-ton weight? Chainmail bikini will be just as much protection as a full suit of plate - i.e, none at all.
Characters in Nevewinter don't deal with dragons only, you messed it with Skyrim. So yeah, they need their armor so not to die before reaching the dragon.
I am against erotic roleplay in videogames for obvious reasons, since kids are playing this game, too.
Eroticism in the videogames not only bars the children from playing them, it really has a little place in particular settings. It's a game about running DUNGEONS and sometimes fighting DRAGONS, after all, not flaunting virtual body parts and having virtual relationships with other players. The only "non-prude" outfit in the Nevrwinter is here for the sake of the fanservise.
Would it be possible for stuff like this to be managed on the client? In other words, allow a user's settings to enable/disable hidden items like shirts, pants and helmets so that you can customize your game experience as you prefer. Personally, I'd rather not see too much pixelated flesh - not because I'm a prude, a feminist or a 'white knight', but because I find it all just a wee bit creepy.
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bioshrikeMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,729Arc User
edited August 2013
Since players can already run around in their underwear, while still retaining full benefit from their gear, being able to disable the visual on the under layer of armor shouldn't be a big deal.
Say what you will about realism or style, but settings such as NW are romanticized versions of what this type of setting would be like. Even commoners walking around have perfect teeth, skin, and hair...
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I actually happen to be a woman and share a feminist viewpoint on the issue, which seems to be a horribly offensive crime these days. Topic starter clearly wanted to have a little scantily dressed female character running around, that's why "cleavage" (unless he meant a horribly obese dwarf with gynecomastia). So yes, your point is moot, just like the rest of your post with the stereotypical "no, they want hijabs" remark.
Well, just removing the shirt doesn't make most of the outfits in the game "scantily dressed".... it just shows, as mentioned by the OP, some cleavage. Nothing you won't see walking around the average mall or main street these days. But, of course, the internet can't exist without hyperbole, so we get people yelling back about "omg, you perverts want to ERP in dental floss!" Which is then replied to with hajib comments, because anyone who equates moderately-revealing clothes with ZOMGSEX and perversion, must be amazingly prudish. But, as I mentioned, that's typical internet hyperbole as well.
Seems that any discussion on an internet forum will inevitably distill down to people arguing from the 200% positive & negative positions. Ah, well.
Wow, can't you dye the under bra? Black or blue, maybe. Even silver.
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brendan03usMember, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited August 2013
Uh, for those suggesting that the developers are against this, remember that they are already selling courtesan outfits in the store. You know what a courtesan is, right? Just checking. Apparently the ownership has no issue with selling courtesan outfits for cash, and I think that explains why the regular outfits are so tame -- they want to sell you the sexier gear (and I expect that if the courtesan stuff sold more, they would create more sexy outfits to sell in the store ... my guess is that it isn't selling well because there aren't *that* many people who are going to fork over cash for that as compared to character slots, bank slots, professions, mounts, zen to convert to AD and so on). But to say that the developer and the developer's owners have a problem with sexy appearances is silly. They are selling COURTESAN gear. and before anyone comes along with the idea that this is intended to be gear for "courtiers", per the original meaning of the term courtesan, let's all remember that the store itself describes these outfits as being "best suited for the alleys of Deekin Street for the male and female suitors." Yep, courtiers. Exactly.
For which other reason than e-rp would you want to have "sexy outfits"? care to explain?
This has got to be the single most ignorant statement I've seen all week. You do understand that Cryptic is actually selling a sexy outfit in their Z store. An outfit approved by them and most likely by Hasbro as well. An outfit, actually called Courtesan wear...they all but called it hooker wear.
And as outlandish as that might seem. There is no way, its even conceivable, that it was done as a means to encourage E-RP. How, exactly do you come to terms with such outfits already existing and the use and sale of which is supporting the game?
GAH: Got beat by Brendan03us by mere minutes. Get out of my head and stop thinking my thoughts :P
Well, just removing the shirt doesn't make most of the outfits in the game "scantily dressed".... it just shows, as mentioned by the OP, some cleavage.
Sure, if you also match it with the same picture of a shirtless Conan taking the same hit. Oh, and since it's what the English Longbow was designed for, that same picture of a dude in full plate taking the same hit.
(And, of course, ignoring that most fantasy gameworlds have a system of physics in which getting hit with weapons just takes off some hitpoints, rather than, say, a sword slash on your arm leaving you on the ground screaming in pain, as you frantically try to keep the severed veins from letting you bleed out. And looking forward to months of recovery, assuming you don't lose the limb entirely. Or that mace hit to the chestplate giving it a nice big dent that makes you unable to breath well, since your lungs & ribs are being compressed. See, this is the problem with trying to apply "realism" to hack-n-slash melee combat games.... it generally doesn't work well, unless you're doing a dark-n-gritty Historically Accurate Medieval Life Sim that tends to have your characters dying permanently before they reach 30.)
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ladymythosMember, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 637Bounty Hunter
Oh don't give me that "disrespectful towards women" tripe! What do you call men running around in their skivvies bare chested?
I call them yummy. Nah, just joking. On a serious side, women running around half-naked in games are definitely disrespectful to some women. But then again, I can't think of a single thing in my daily life that won't offend anyone at all. Not a darn thing. For example, did you know heavy metal music is illegal in some parts of the world? I was in the hospital once and watched an episode of CSI, and some old woman complained that it was disrespectful to God and stuff like that. Everything is disrespectful to some people. But you can't let it get to you. When you make a game, movie, write book or whatever, you will have to draw a line and say "This is it, we're happy with it. If it offends someone, we apologize. But we're not changing it to please a few." As long as we live in a free country, the majority wins. It should be common sense.
I don't need to be "protected" by white knights, thank you very much, and I'm pretty sure a lot of women would agree.
Amen. I do like being treated nice, but it has a limit. A guy being nice to me because he likes me is great. A guy being nice to me because I'm a woman is wrong. There's a difference.
TL;DR: How can people possibly ask for "real life" realistic in DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS? (O_O;)
I know D&D's all about how you make of it but to ask that much... you're doing it wrong!
First of all, I am not trying to sound arrogant, so excuse me if I seem like it. But I think a lot of people have this part wrong. I don't think 'realism' is a black and white subject. I think it's far more in a grey area than that.
Take Iron Man, for instance (as it was mentioned earlier in this thread). If we wanted to give him the same realism we have in real life, there wouldn't even be an Iron Man. Being thrown through walls, falling from the sky and so on would definitely hurt, but before we get that far, we need to consider if there can even be an Iron Man around in reality. Short version? It can't. The suit alone is far more complicated and high-tech than anything we can make in reality, and that's before we start with the weaponry, flight and so on. All Iron Man needs to fly is the boots, and if that was possible, we could all be flying around on hovercars and hoverboards now, Back to the future 2 style. I don't see that happening any time soon.
But the important part isn't to stick to reality. The important part is to create a new reality, with it's own realism, it's own physics, and it's own laws of nature and all that. So going back to Iron Man, they knew sticking to the common reality wouldn't work, so the created a new one. In this reality, there can be an Iron Man, there can be a Captain America, and there can be a Thor. But at the same time, that reality isn't limitless. Iron Man has limits, just like he would have had in real life. But he has different limits. If that makes any sense.
So moving over to Dungeons & Dragons, there are definitely limits here as well. Instead of trying to stick it all into our reality, we need to accept that it has it's own version of reality, with it's own set of physics, it's own set of laws of nature and all that. I think that's what most people don't get. So all in all, you can't just go around changing the way the world is built, just because it doesn't fit your story. That's what seperates great fantasy from bad fantasy, in my opinion. Good fantasy first creates the world, then sticks to it, no matter the limits. Bad fantasy alters everything (literally) as it suits the story.
Or take Star Wars, as an example. We have lightsabers, the Force, two Deathstars and so on, as well as intergalactic travel and what not. But at the same time, it still has the same physics as we do. People can't suddenly learn to fly, just because it suits the story. The world doesn't work that way. So in that way, Star Wars has it's own set of reality, with it's own set of realism. Just like Iron Man, and just like Dungeons & Dragons.
tl;rd: Realism isn't a black and white question. The only way to do it is to create a new reality for the setting, then sticking to it. That's why you don't see flying dwarves in D&D, and why a steel bikini would be a horrible idea in ths game. A steel bikini would change how the world itself is made up and alter game-reality itself. Surely that's not a good idea?
Gah, no please. This game is good as it is. As other people already mentioned this is supposed to be a kid's game. Live with it or play another game. The courtesan fashion should be renamed and it's tooltip should be changed. I wouldn't want one of my kids to read stuff like this, on a videogame.
I'll give this idea both thumbs down, also both big toes if that helps.
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ladymythosMember, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 637Bounty Hunter
I'll give this idea both thumbs down, also both big toes if that helps.
That depends on who you ask. Geek fact: The whole 'thumbs up' thing origins from Ceasar, back in ancient Rome. The quick version is we had two gladiators fighting until one of them was pretty much unconscious. At this point, Ceasar stretched out his arm, with his hand clenched to a fist and the thumb pointing sideways. Then, after a short while, he would turn the thumb up or down. If the thumb was pointing up, the victorious gladiator was allowed to kill the other one. If the thumb pointed down, the losing gladiator would be spared, and the audience would be denied the death. So thumb's up a good thing? Depends on who you ask.
That depends on who you ask. Geek fact: The whole 'thumbs up' thing origins from Ceasar, back in ancient Rome. The quick version is we had two gladiators fighting until one of them was pretty much unconscious. At this point, Ceasar stretched out his arm, with his hand clenched to a fist and the thumb pointing sideways. Then, after a short while, he would turn the thumb up or down. If the thumb was pointing up, the victorious gladiator was allowed to kill the other one. If the thumb pointed down, the losing gladiator would be spared, and the audience would be denied the death. So thumb's up a good thing? Depends on who you ask.
Haha, that is true.
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bioshrikeMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,729Arc User
Gah, no please. This game is good as it is. As other people already mentioned this is supposed to be a kid's game. Live with it or play another game. The courtesan fashion should be renamed and it's tooltip should be changed. I wouldn't want one of my kids to read stuff like this, on a videogame.
I'll give this idea both thumbs down, also both big toes if that helps.
Video games are not babysitters; No child should be playing *any* video game without parental supervision. If a parent plops their kid in front of a game without researching its contents, then it is the parent's fault, not the game's.
Like it or not, scantily clad characters are part of the fantasy genre - Conan ran around barechested and Red Sonja wore the metal bikini...
I think most of the armor pieces are actually pretty conservative, all things considered.
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Sure, if you also match it with the same picture of a shirtless Conan taking the same hit. Oh, and since it's what the English Longbow was designed for, that same picture of a dude in full plate taking the same hit.
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That's why in one of my posts I mentioned something like "realism in the terms of a game". So yes, armor protects you from the damage, but lack of armor will not. I don't understand why do you need naked chars running around in the first place, the graphics aren't even that good. I assume that everyone who has his character naked at some point is either
- a teenager, so his opinion doesn't count at all
- an adult who is goofing around, but the lack of hawt girls and guys (for the equality!) in the game would be the least of his/hers gaming troubles
So I don't see any reasons why "invisible armor" should be implemented. Roleplay? Please, show me one player who bothered to write a biography for his character. There are plenty of generic MMOs with all kind of naked lads and gals on the market, no need to turn Neverwinter into one.
tl;rd: Realism isn't a black and white question. The only way to do it is to create a new reality for the setting, then sticking to it. That's why you don't see flying dwarves in D&D
Yep, that's what I was going for with the "consistancy" comment earlier. Make up your world's rules, then stick with them.
, and why a steel bikini would be a horrible idea in ths game. A steel bikini would change how the world itself is made up and alter game-reality itself.
Huh. Really? D&D's "world rules" (based on official artwork over the years, and even current artwork in the case of groups like the Drow) have supported that in the past, so it doesn't seem inconsistent at all.
As other people already mentioned this is supposed to be a kid's game.
Eh, not sure I'd go that far. I don't see a rating anywhere, but PWE's general guidelines say "Must be 18, or be 13+ and have parent's guidance/permission".
"Kid's game" suggests Disney or Nintendo, to me. /shrug
(of course, that phrase also gives me bad flashbacks to ignorant parents & store clerks mis-purchasing anime for kids because "it's a cartoon, it must be for kids!" Ditto with legislators & moral majority types going nuts over M rated videogames because "it's a game, it must be for kids!" Even as the average age of gamers creeps higher into the 20s-30s.)
Video games are not babysitters; No child should be playing *any* video game without parental supervision. If a parent plops their kid in front of a game without researching its contents, then it is the parent's fault, not the game's.
Like it or not, scantily clad characters are part of the fantasy genre - Conan ran around barechested and Red Sonja wore the metal bikini...
I think most of the armor pieces are actually pretty conservative, all things considered.
AOC was rated 18+ for a reason??? So were the movies???
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bioshrikeMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,729Arc User
AOC was rated 18+ for a reason??? So were the movies???
And what is the ESRB rating for this game? I'm confident it's not E.
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It's simply how our society has evolved. We've grown accustomed to covering ourselves and many people have been taught that being naked is 'shameful' and such. As a result, showing more skin than one is 'supposed to' tends to be quite titillating, if you pardon the pun.
Now, if you look at the more primitive cultures of, say, the various rainforests across the world you see that people generally don't have much of a problem of walking around with their junk out. :P
"Hah! You are doomed! You're only armed with that pathetic excuse for a musical instrument!!!" *the Savage Beast moments before Lonnehart the Bard used music to soothe him... then beat him to death with his Fat Lute*
Um I could just put courtesan wear on and still have full stats, don't know how that doesn't count as a sexy outfit. Thing is everyone has their own opinion, just like I shouldn't tell you that my way is right and you're dumb for not listening, you can't tell everyone that wants to dress their character how they want not to. Agreed that games today are very "light" on female clothing lol, but it doesn't look like that's going to change anytime soon. I think that in the name of customization the devs will grant OP's request, however I don't really care one way or another as I can customize my character quite a bit without showing a lot of skin.
We are definitely dominating, and we are always about to win.
Oh, vid starts off tame, the undies are later in the vid:)
I actually happen to be a woman and share a feminist viewpoint on the issue, which seems to be a horribly offensive crime these days. Topic starter clearly wanted to have a little scantily dressed female character running around, that's why "cleavage" (unless he meant a horribly obese dwarf with gynecomastia). So yes, your point is moot, just like the rest of your post with the stereotypical "no, they want hijabs" remark.
Characters in Nevewinter don't deal with dragons only, you messed it with Skyrim. So yeah, they need their armor so not to die before reaching the dragon.
Eroticism in the videogames not only bars the children from playing them, it really has a little place in particular settings. It's a game about running DUNGEONS and sometimes fighting DRAGONS, after all, not flaunting virtual body parts and having virtual relationships with other players. The only "non-prude" outfit in the Nevrwinter is here for the sake of the fanservise.
Say what you will about realism or style, but settings such as NW are romanticized versions of what this type of setting would be like. Even commoners walking around have perfect teeth, skin, and hair...
"Is it better to be feared or respected? I say, is it too much to ask for both?" -Tony Stark
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Well, just removing the shirt doesn't make most of the outfits in the game "scantily dressed".... it just shows, as mentioned by the OP, some cleavage. Nothing you won't see walking around the average mall or main street these days. But, of course, the internet can't exist without hyperbole, so we get people yelling back about "omg, you perverts want to ERP in dental floss!" Which is then replied to with hajib comments, because anyone who equates moderately-revealing clothes with ZOMGSEX and perversion, must be amazingly prudish. But, as I mentioned, that's typical internet hyperbole as well.
Seems that any discussion on an internet forum will inevitably distill down to people arguing from the 200% positive & negative positions. Ah, well.
Yeah, it would be nice to be able to turn off those hideous TR glove/sleeve/what-the-heck-is-it's.
Brown rags for underwear showing through the armor. It looks worse than any of the shirts/pants.
What about the children? OMG?!?!?
This has got to be the single most ignorant statement I've seen all week. You do understand that Cryptic is actually selling a sexy outfit in their Z store. An outfit approved by them and most likely by Hasbro as well. An outfit, actually called Courtesan wear...they all but called it hooker wear.
And as outlandish as that might seem. There is no way, its even conceivable, that it was done as a means to encourage E-RP. How, exactly do you come to terms with such outfits already existing and the use and sale of which is supporting the game?
GAH: Got beat by Brendan03us by mere minutes. Get out of my head and stop thinking my thoughts :P
http://flygirlgamers.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/female-armor-funny-2-20-13.jpg
Something like this?
edit: LOL
Okay, then, nxixpxpxlxe.
Sure, if you also match it with the same picture of a shirtless Conan taking the same hit. Oh, and since it's what the English Longbow was designed for, that same picture of a dude in full plate taking the same hit.
(And, of course, ignoring that most fantasy gameworlds have a system of physics in which getting hit with weapons just takes off some hitpoints, rather than, say, a sword slash on your arm leaving you on the ground screaming in pain, as you frantically try to keep the severed veins from letting you bleed out. And looking forward to months of recovery, assuming you don't lose the limb entirely. Or that mace hit to the chestplate giving it a nice big dent that makes you unable to breath well, since your lungs & ribs are being compressed. See, this is the problem with trying to apply "realism" to hack-n-slash melee combat games.... it generally doesn't work well, unless you're doing a dark-n-gritty Historically Accurate Medieval Life Sim that tends to have your characters dying permanently before they reach 30.)
Amen. I do like being treated nice, but it has a limit. A guy being nice to me because he likes me is great. A guy being nice to me because I'm a woman is wrong. There's a difference.
First of all, I am not trying to sound arrogant, so excuse me if I seem like it. But I think a lot of people have this part wrong. I don't think 'realism' is a black and white subject. I think it's far more in a grey area than that.
Take Iron Man, for instance (as it was mentioned earlier in this thread). If we wanted to give him the same realism we have in real life, there wouldn't even be an Iron Man. Being thrown through walls, falling from the sky and so on would definitely hurt, but before we get that far, we need to consider if there can even be an Iron Man around in reality. Short version? It can't. The suit alone is far more complicated and high-tech than anything we can make in reality, and that's before we start with the weaponry, flight and so on. All Iron Man needs to fly is the boots, and if that was possible, we could all be flying around on hovercars and hoverboards now, Back to the future 2 style. I don't see that happening any time soon.
But the important part isn't to stick to reality. The important part is to create a new reality, with it's own realism, it's own physics, and it's own laws of nature and all that. So going back to Iron Man, they knew sticking to the common reality wouldn't work, so the created a new one. In this reality, there can be an Iron Man, there can be a Captain America, and there can be a Thor. But at the same time, that reality isn't limitless. Iron Man has limits, just like he would have had in real life. But he has different limits. If that makes any sense.
So moving over to Dungeons & Dragons, there are definitely limits here as well. Instead of trying to stick it all into our reality, we need to accept that it has it's own version of reality, with it's own set of physics, it's own set of laws of nature and all that. I think that's what most people don't get. So all in all, you can't just go around changing the way the world is built, just because it doesn't fit your story. That's what seperates great fantasy from bad fantasy, in my opinion. Good fantasy first creates the world, then sticks to it, no matter the limits. Bad fantasy alters everything (literally) as it suits the story.
Or take Star Wars, as an example. We have lightsabers, the Force, two Deathstars and so on, as well as intergalactic travel and what not. But at the same time, it still has the same physics as we do. People can't suddenly learn to fly, just because it suits the story. The world doesn't work that way. So in that way, Star Wars has it's own set of reality, with it's own set of realism. Just like Iron Man, and just like Dungeons & Dragons.
tl;rd: Realism isn't a black and white question. The only way to do it is to create a new reality for the setting, then sticking to it. That's why you don't see flying dwarves in D&D, and why a steel bikini would be a horrible idea in ths game. A steel bikini would change how the world itself is made up and alter game-reality itself. Surely that's not a good idea?
I'll give this idea both thumbs down, also both big toes if that helps.
Haha, that is true.
Video games are not babysitters; No child should be playing *any* video game without parental supervision. If a parent plops their kid in front of a game without researching its contents, then it is the parent's fault, not the game's.
Like it or not, scantily clad characters are part of the fantasy genre - Conan ran around barechested and Red Sonja wore the metal bikini...
I think most of the armor pieces are actually pretty conservative, all things considered.
"Is it better to be feared or respected? I say, is it too much to ask for both?" -Tony Stark
Official NW_Legit_Community Forums
That's why in one of my posts I mentioned something like "realism in the terms of a game". So yes, armor protects you from the damage, but lack of armor will not. I don't understand why do you need naked chars running around in the first place, the graphics aren't even that good. I assume that everyone who has his character naked at some point is either
- a teenager, so his opinion doesn't count at all
- an adult who is goofing around, but the lack of hawt girls and guys (for the equality!) in the game would be the least of his/hers gaming troubles
So I don't see any reasons why "invisible armor" should be implemented. Roleplay? Please, show me one player who bothered to write a biography for his character. There are plenty of generic MMOs with all kind of naked lads and gals on the market, no need to turn Neverwinter into one.
Yep, that's what I was going for with the "consistancy" comment earlier. Make up your world's rules, then stick with them.
Huh. Really? D&D's "world rules" (based on official artwork over the years, and even current artwork in the case of groups like the Drow) have supported that in the past, so it doesn't seem inconsistent at all.
Eh, not sure I'd go that far. I don't see a rating anywhere, but PWE's general guidelines say "Must be 18, or be 13+ and have parent's guidance/permission".
"Kid's game" suggests Disney or Nintendo, to me. /shrug
(of course, that phrase also gives me bad flashbacks to ignorant parents & store clerks mis-purchasing anime for kids because "it's a cartoon, it must be for kids!" Ditto with legislators & moral majority types going nuts over M rated videogames because "it's a game, it must be for kids!" Even as the average age of gamers creeps higher into the 20s-30s.)
AOC was rated 18+ for a reason??? So were the movies???
And what is the ESRB rating for this game? I'm confident it's not E.
"Is it better to be feared or respected? I say, is it too much to ask for both?" -Tony Stark
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