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Ok it's time for the devs to nerf tene enchants instead of killing classes
pandapaul
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I have had just about enough now.. They keep nerfing classes to protect these stupid tene enchants in pvp..
TRs 1 shorting ppl
GWF sentinel build with big dps
GFs being about to 2-3 shot ppl
What is the problem with them all?! It's those **** tene enchants! They are killing this game now.. About to nerf the GWF class into complete oblivion to protect them..
It's about time they actually did what is needed for this game and nerf those stupid enchantments
TRs 1 shorting ppl
GWF sentinel build with big dps
GFs being about to 2-3 shot ppl
What is the problem with them all?! It's those **** tene enchants! They are killing this game now.. About to nerf the GWF class into complete oblivion to protect them..
It's about time they actually did what is needed for this game and nerf those stupid enchantments
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CWs can 1 shot people without it.
GWFs can hit 7k on the tenebrous sentinel build without it.
GFs who are 17-18k GS can still 2-3 shot people.
What's the problem with them all? Their gear > yours. Is it possible to get for yourself? Yes.
They're probably trying to cover up their horrible mistake of not theorycraft/testing Tenebrous in the first place. Now that they've been released/unchanged for so long and people have sunk money into the overpowered Tenebrous, changing them will probably have a negative effect on those people.
In short, they're trying to cover their own behinds with the mistake that was Tenebrous by nerfing classes. This is extremely backwards, though, because these weak classes will be pretty much required to use Tenebrous to compete.
Agreed. Also tenebrous procs are fine. Im a rogue and i can take it. hehe
Okay, my main is a DC, (i have 5 class in one account) but for the last time, TR CAN NOT ONESHOT! Oh my god! Its daily is based on your health, so if he shot the daily when you are full health, then he can almost damage nothing, you heard right.. nothing... just test in on a player. In other hand if you are in half health, then yes he can wipe your other half health in one shot.
GF can stunlock till you die, if you cant avoid the first strike, you are 100% dead. GWF almost can do that too.
CW is shooting ice knife to a full health damages 90%. <- NOW thats the real problem here. Its okay if he could do that when im half health, like TR daily, but 90% health oneshot? REALLY?
You got this all wrong it's more like........
Their money put in the "game" > his money spend on the "game"
Also what klixan said seems to be about right. Even though i remember that exact same person trying to bash my posts a couple of weeks ago.
Seems like lots of white-knights are taking of their white helmets and armor and finally see what's actually going on here
I'm not sure where you get your information, but TR's definately can one shot people. All day long. Lurkers Assault still does 25% extra damage. Depending on the person's gear/defense. Even after the supposed "nerf" to LA, I still am consistently hitting for 23-28k. Thats 90% of the pupulation's health.
Not sure exactly what you mean when you say TR's daily is based of your health. Its a straight 25%dmg increase, as well as increasing the length of Stealth.
Generally, even if I dont one shot someone with LA/LB, my next ability depending on the fight is Impact shot/Dazing Strike. Both of which are capable of hitting 20k(for me), probably higher for some others.
None of this has to do with Tene enchants. I dont have one, nor am I using a G-Vorpal...Still using a Plaguefire.
It always amazes me that developers would be so short sighted as to allow players to concentrate on one aspect of their game to excel at completely different aspects of their game. Why should someone that never does PvE, have to spend hours grinding out gear in PvE to do what he likes, which is PvP. On the reverse side of that, why should anyone that never PvP's, be able to take gear that he has grinded in PvE into a PvP environment and be able to destroy PvP players because of some goodies he got doing PvE.
The sad part is this type of imbalance is completely fixable and completely the fault of the developers that it is not being fixed in a timely manner. They don't realize that it hurts not only the players, but the game as a whole, because PvP'ers will move on to another game, than put up with blatant broken game scenarios.
This.
PWE/Cryptic is a business. They make money buy selling Zen. He primary reason to buy Zen is to...
1. Purchase keys.
2. Purchase tools.
3. Purchase mounts.
If you take these three away, they're not making money.
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If we all stop playing because Tene's make the game suck I won't be buying anymore Zen. They can look at it that way. Fix the game so people actually want to spend money on the game and have more players. Or continue to drive players away, I have bought keys, I have bought 2 bags and a tiger mount.
I will not spend another dime till Tene's are fixed because there is no point to play if they can't fix and balance terrible issues that a mass of players is complaining about. They will make more money by removing them I am sure more players will stick around to actually buy Zen then. If they don't get fixed many including myself will just find a game without broke enchants so in the end its less Zen for them.
nops, they cant. Average hp at lvl 60 with basic t1 purple gear is over 20k
lashing blade with critical will get you for about 12k UNLESS you have stuff to pump up the base damage or crit sev for the classes, and guess what that stuff is? Thats right, enchants, not exclusivelly tenes, but enchants overall to boost up the offensive ability of the classes.
Enchants are the keyword here, only because of them a TR can lashing crit you for over 24k dmg.
The way i see, cryptic can solve the matter in 2 ways:
1- tone down the offensive enchants, holding back the damage they cause or the amount of them you can use.
2- tone up the defensive enchants, making they keep the pace with the offense enchants so that they still do damage, but the player has means to soak it down.
Easy as that.
They will be working correctly when you can only use 1 Tene per character and they become unique and no longer stackable. Increasing the CD doesn't fix the issue the issue is that you can use more then 1 of them
I like the suggestion for more defense maybe even more HP.
Now lets talk about 12k lashing when what they are 40lvl ? The rogue I run with hits 40k crits every match and he isn't fully geared doesn't use tene's of course that would be cheating. Hes getting lashing without lurkers in the 20k range lol so are tons of rogues. They crit for a ton in greens.
PANDAPAUL for gwf president
7x g.tene = 15+m
u cant win with lvl 7-8 dark azure enchants.
Btw, the TR Oneshot move, is actually not using Tene, it's using a daily in stealth to buff their Crit Severity, then using Lashing Blade in stealth to wich make it a auto crit. Cheers
I have played this game since CBT 1. I have spent $20k on this game.. I have every perfect weapon and armor enchants, BiS and rank 7-8 utility items and all rank 10 on other item for every class and multiple classes/builds. I have tested every build, every theorycraft, every inch of this game. If I've seen something capable of doing, I say it without exaggeration and I don't bull**** like all these people who think they've tested one build and says something isn't possible.
I have through my purchase history nearly up to 1 million zen and supported neverwinter streamers on twitch of up to nearly $5k altogether. I don't need people who've played one class to 60 to say how op tenebrous is now after two nerfs. It is OP but it's not just tenebrous that's causing it alone. I agree on a lot of what this thread is saying and disagree on some but the thread itself is horse ****.
When you're spending up to 40 mil a week on new characters/reslotting, etc each week then come to me and say.. nope, you can NOT 1 shot with such and such.
Mmm... are you saying that if you pay a lot, then it's ok to have the chance to play a OP build?
Could as well ask the devs to make some full package "only 20k $ and you can purchase a semi-god to slap your enemies in the face!".
Or this: "for only 20k dollars, purchase a premade exclusive character that can let you solo castle never. No more need for a party! Make your way through castle never alone and go slap that dracolich ***** in the face!".
After all, who cares about game balance. The important thing is to give a big, fat toy, to those big kids that want to spend the price of a car on a MMORPG.
You just sound like a 'sour grapes' to me.. lol!
No need to resort to ad hominem when you aren't even talking about the topic. The topic of this thread is tenebrous is way too OP so nerfing classes is not right. My case was and still is.. on my very first post (if you've even read it...) , states that ALL THESE THINGS ARE STILL CAPABLE without the tenebrous yet people are saying it's not possible. I mean.. I'm watching HighPriest_Tymora's stream atm, and he's one shotting people as a TR with 0 tenebrous.
Now back to you, personally I think $20k is nothing but I mean if you think it's the price of a car.. then maybe your cars they are -shrugs-. I mean.. some homeless people have $2 cardboard boxes as a house and you just use the price of a house on coffee.. so shame on you?