Sure, the CW does a good job but lets be realistic. That GWF isn't even close to end game. First, his def is way too low getting hit that high. Second, his regen is 645 when below 50% - which is about 1000 too low. Hard to say about his HP but I guess he's about 7k off. Also hard to say which weapons he has.
And that CW seems to be built fully to PvP. Propably geared in blues/greens considering the low damage and high regeneration. I'm willing to bet he is quite useless in PvE.
That is the price CW has to pay.
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And that CW seems to be built fully to PvP. Propably geared in blues/greens considering the low damage and high regeneration. I'm willing to bet he is quite useless in PvE.
That is the price CW has to pay.
The CW is using High Vizier, which isn't a bad choice for PVP when it's working correctly. He seems to have a Vorpal/Greater Vorpal as well. I've switched my play style, powers and feats to something similar. Unless I'm completely outmatched by a premade, I've been having success.
And that CW seems to be built fully to PvP. Propably geared in blues/greens considering the low damage and high regeneration. I'm willing to bet he is quite useless in PvE.
That is the price CW has to pay.
Actually PVP makes people better at PVE, since you learn how to avoid attacks etz much better. He can just swap out his gear if he wanna do more dmg, it takes less then 10 seconds to do that.
When 1 vs 1, a max gear/enchant+perfects/rank 10 CW, VS a GWF. I only can only speak from videos, as I do not have this gear. But from the videos I've seen, generally the CW gets worked over. Whether they have skill or not whose to tell /shrug.
Generally I do very well against GWF's, even geared ones with my CW, and I have no where near bis gear or enchants. Of course there are differant scenarios.
When I see a GWF coming at range, for me, and its a truly 1 vs 1 fight. Even against a very well geared/skilled GWF I more often then not, come out ahead. The lesser geared ones I usually end up killing, the higher geared ones generally end up running away for a pot. I dont chase them because thats just foolish. I'll call that a stalemate. If a well geared GWF gets the jump on me with there gross rotation of stuns and high dmg, its a 50/50 chance I am able to get away, usually its a sit and watch frantically pressing buttons trying to get up and away, and watch myself be killed. I dont really call that a skill vs skill match, more over a class that is very powerful in terrible gear and 0 skill, and even worse with good gear and elite skill.
Same for GF's. If you get caught in there prone/stun rotation against a well geared GF, or one using a Daily, usually its game over. If I am able to see them coming from range, I can stay at range and burst them down, as I go for a pure dps build in pvp on my CW.
As far as rogues, if you get caught with one using la/lb usually its a one shot, or at the very least a 3/4 shot +a 6-13k Impact Shot and your dead. My go to is always to dot a rogue the minute I see them, and keep on them if I am able. Keep a rogue doted, you can always see them. Burst them at range, dodge and stay away from them. If I come across a perma-stealth build, I use terrain to my advantage if I am able, do my best to spot them and dot them, if I cant and they are using CoS, I'll take 2-3 hits then dodge, 2-3 more and dodge, use a pot. If I still am not able to see them, I take the high road and just run away. No point dieing against a person you cant see.
All in all, I feel CW's do just fine in PvP, its all up to the person, and particular scenario you are given. As always, everyone dies in pvp, eventually.
all I can say I boohoo waah waah. I play a cw. My main and favorite in fact. I also have a dc, gwf, and TR. my cw's gear score is still below 10k and I have a blast in pvp, especially domination (all puns fully intended). Bring your GF, and you'd better hope you have another to help you else you'll find out first hand how a well played cw can and does kill GF's on a regular basis, same goes with GWF's. 1 on 1 against any class, yes even perma stealth tr's, I think cw's are very well balanced. The controller build I will admit needs some kind of loving and I've been giving that thought for awhile now and intend to post here on the forums what I think up in the hopes dev's might take a look at it.
Stop qq'n for other classes to be nerfed. Get good or die. Make suggestions on improvements your favorite class could use, and not simply X class is in need of loving. Actual suggestions of things that could be tweaked or reworked that you think will make the class better and then most importantly add why. Else every time someone posts a qq nerf this or that generally Dev's hear 'the devs suck this game sucks etc etc.' I'm by far not kissing their rear ends, but I do have some first hand knowledge of what it's like being on the other side of the gaming world.
YA MAYBE MY cw JUST HAS **** GEAR i DUNNO. THANKS FOR ALL THE REPLYS TO MY THREAD THO FANYBOIS. UR MAKIN ME FAMOUS. NOW HOW i GET MONEY OUTA YOUR ENERGIES.
its at least good when your on top of those piller things and newbs below don';t look up and you just blast them for a few mins :P GS not matter if its like that :P
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And that CW seems to be built fully to PvP. Propably geared in blues/greens considering the low damage and high regeneration. I'm willing to bet he is quite useless in PvE.
That is the price CW has to pay.
The CW is using High Vizier, which isn't a bad choice for PVP when it's working correctly. He seems to have a Vorpal/Greater Vorpal as well. I've switched my play style, powers and feats to something similar. Unless I'm completely outmatched by a premade, I've been having success.
To each their own, I suppose.
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Actually PVP makes people better at PVE, since you learn how to avoid attacks etz much better. He can just swap out his gear if he wanna do more dmg, it takes less then 10 seconds to do that.
Generally I do very well against GWF's, even geared ones with my CW, and I have no where near bis gear or enchants. Of course there are differant scenarios.
When I see a GWF coming at range, for me, and its a truly 1 vs 1 fight. Even against a very well geared/skilled GWF I more often then not, come out ahead. The lesser geared ones I usually end up killing, the higher geared ones generally end up running away for a pot. I dont chase them because thats just foolish. I'll call that a stalemate. If a well geared GWF gets the jump on me with there gross rotation of stuns and high dmg, its a 50/50 chance I am able to get away, usually its a sit and watch frantically pressing buttons trying to get up and away, and watch myself be killed. I dont really call that a skill vs skill match, more over a class that is very powerful in terrible gear and 0 skill, and even worse with good gear and elite skill.
Same for GF's. If you get caught in there prone/stun rotation against a well geared GF, or one using a Daily, usually its game over. If I am able to see them coming from range, I can stay at range and burst them down, as I go for a pure dps build in pvp on my CW.
As far as rogues, if you get caught with one using la/lb usually its a one shot, or at the very least a 3/4 shot +a 6-13k Impact Shot and your dead. My go to is always to dot a rogue the minute I see them, and keep on them if I am able. Keep a rogue doted, you can always see them. Burst them at range, dodge and stay away from them. If I come across a perma-stealth build, I use terrain to my advantage if I am able, do my best to spot them and dot them, if I cant and they are using CoS, I'll take 2-3 hits then dodge, 2-3 more and dodge, use a pot. If I still am not able to see them, I take the high road and just run away. No point dieing against a person you cant see.
All in all, I feel CW's do just fine in PvP, its all up to the person, and particular scenario you are given. As always, everyone dies in pvp, eventually.
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Stop qq'n for other classes to be nerfed. Get good or die. Make suggestions on improvements your favorite class could use, and not simply X class is in need of loving. Actual suggestions of things that could be tweaked or reworked that you think will make the class better and then most importantly add why. Else every time someone posts a qq nerf this or that generally Dev's hear 'the devs suck this game sucks etc etc.' I'm by far not kissing their rear ends, but I do have some first hand knowledge of what it's like being on the other side of the gaming world.