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11K GF here, can't find a party for DD.
froree
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 10 Arc User
I was in a decent guild and recently it became inactive.
I'm trying to pull pugs in general chat, but as soon as I mention idk any shortcuts i get auto kicked![:\](https://forum.arcgames.com/neverwinter/plugins/emojiextender/emoji/twitter/confused.png ":\")
Also tried to find a new guild but good guilds don't need more people, other guilds dont even run DD/inactive.
Any suggestions?
I'm on Dragon.
Thanks.
I'm trying to pull pugs in general chat, but as soon as I mention idk any shortcuts i get auto kicked
Also tried to find a new guild but good guilds don't need more people, other guilds dont even run DD/inactive.
Any suggestions?
I'm on Dragon.
Thanks.
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And I know all shortcuts and have over 12k GS
And that there is the problem with this game. Gear bought via auction house to achieve a decent gear score but in reality not even needing that gear because the dungeons aren't about killing anything but about skipping and gimping content.
My conqueror GF isn't low dps, but well can't argue with the part about being slower.
I play on Dragon and my GF is never stuck lfg, only class that's easier to find a group with is cleric. I won't speak on GWF as I don't play one but I do have 60 cleric, cw, tr, and gf.
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Learning new territory is best done where the is no time pressure. Once you have yourself established in a new guild, new content during Delves will be far more forgiving.
Regardless, our guild always need more GFs for more Delve Runs so feel free to send me a PM on Dragon Server, I'll send you an invite !
We do a lot of T2s/Delves but taking an initiative to form runs and create an active presence within the guild, you will more often than not, get reinvited for many more runs!
We are however, +8 GMT Oceanic, just saying.. in case the time zone doesn't fit you.. heh but we usually have people online on all timings anyway. so No issue
Cheers,
Silverblade@Slowshield
Silverblade (60 TR), Silver (60 DC), SilverShield (60 GF), SilverStorm (60 CW), Ultimate (60 GWF)
Just don't tell them that you don't know the shortcuts and play the game , you'll learn everything sooner or later .
I barely log on my GF becuz I'm getting tired of running DD with him only . From my perspective -
every time I log in and there is a DD going on people are only looking for a GF or a DC ... when I
want to play my TR or my CW for once lol .
DD-50mins: people ask for pretty much any class, especially dps classes, starting with strong CWs on friend lists. The implication is that many groups are started by either DCs or friends of DCs and those that have none are able to grab one early from maximum pool of PE loungers.
DD-30mins: many groups, crucial roles (1+ CWs, 1 TR, 1 DC) are filled already or filling fast. People looking for final or last two spots. Experienced groups will ask for TR/GWF/GF. Groups with weaker CWs or DCs or doing Epic Frozen Heart will ask for GF and only GF (and they will ask for one for a long time). Pool of lounging PE DCs gets rapidly drained via friend list or rapidly filled calls for DCs.
DD-10mins: most groups are spamming like crazy for DCs with occasionally rapidly filled CW spams (many CWs around and watching [Zone] like hawks at this point). Getting a DC now is no mean feat. Those who have DC alts, especially in guild groups, feel forced to relog to them or miss out on part of precious DD hour or not support their guild gearing.
Early DD: [Zone] much quieter but groups left are spamming for DCs. A few spamming for CW or TR critical roles - quite often these are failed groups that did not work out on either early bosses or early trash.
Late DD: massive spam for final spots, especially for speed runs. These are typically DC or CW calls.
So, as you can see, there is a limited period of time when GFs or fighters in general are in demand via [Zone] calls during a typical DD. As a fighter, your best bet is to start your own group and have a few DC on your friend list.
If you are a speed running or shortcut running GWF and preferably well-geared, you can get invites to T2+ runs or very quickly form a group.
If you are a GF, you almost always have to start your own group unless you only ever do Epic Frozen Heart, even in guild groups - notable exception is if you find a DC that loves having you around and often starts their own group. But people become comfortable with having a good GF around, especially those that can at least keep up with the rest of the group on shortcuts ("Into the Fray" is your best friend!). So, forming your own groups is not as hard as it appears once you have even a minimum good reputation.
Summary: as you can see, the endgame perspective is quite different depending on which class you are currently running and you could not really expect anything else. It is the same in all MMORPGs, but it is greatly exaggerated due to the DD system of NW.
We are definitely dominating, and we are always about to win.
Not really. 11k conq = 10k for other classes because 12k is typical for a Stalwarts GF and most GF consider that easily the most flexible endgame set, i.e. including even T2 sets.
Problem is that GFs in pure dps sets like Timeless can inflate GS up to 16k and make other classes think twice about something that is not really relevant to anything...
If I were the OP, I'd state something like "11k Stalwarts GF" (assuming, ofc, that he has Stalwarts) in chat so people eventually learn not to discriminate incorrectly.
Ah thanks for that, my GF is in stalwart's and I was wondering why I was having such trouble getting the huge GS I see so many GF have. Good to know.
We are definitely dominating, and we are always about to win.
Karrundax is now CW heavy due to the boss changes, and Spider requires crazy DPS (which can happen with a decked-out Conqueror spec). Heck, I've even ran CN with a GF that knew all the shortcuts and could make all the jumps!
Join a decent guild and maybe you'll have better luck.
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Must have had a maxed out into the fray. That's the only way for a GF to make some of those jumps.
I did spellplague with a GF last night on my CW, in the last boss the GF would run to get more adds and draw the current crowd away from my singularity so I was only able to push off a small amount, and I got less AP gain.
Same on CN, played with a GF who stayed on the boss the entire time, it was really hard to keep adds off the TR because they all ran to the GF and they were too far from the edge to push them off.
GF seems like it could potentially be very useful, but sadly most GFs I've played with just don't have a clue.
So true! Thankfully, CW is my main. So, I very much know how much a GF's aggro and control often interferes with a competent CW's role (though ironically can help a weak CW quite a lot). This is why dps GF's are far more useful than many people realise and why sets like Timeless are more viable in PvE than you would first think.
About the only time a GF non-dps skills are truly useful is when kiting is absolutely required, making them beastly in fights like endboss of Frozen Heart or when very temporarily intercepting burst damage, e.g. endboss of Spider (though a good GWF can do this just as well if not better), or when occasionally throwing mobs like red mages of CN's endboss to CW push points, or when helping control certain kinds of CC-able elite mobs like Thoons.
Other times, when there are tankable bosses, like in Mad Dragon or first boss of Spellplague, a GF can be quite handy but are not required since any other class can solo tank a boss with appropriate attack priorities, damage avoidance skill and limited group cooperation.
So, ironically some of the worst GFs are the ones who try to "tank" and aggressively use their aggro skills when not needed. However, good ones can use their CC or their best-in-class kiting skills or just TR-like high single target damage to help a group just as much as or more than any other class, with options for aggro that no other class have. The tricky part is finding a good experienced one, especially since often with current content there is far less risk with just taking a GWF or TR or even another CW.
Interjecting...As a GWF I love CW ...until after singularity when they love to knockback that lovely group of mobs that I am ready to hit with 2 encounters and just as I queue them...bam...all mobs scattered.../facepalm
Yeah I don't understand this either. As a CW I always pop shield within the first 2 seconds of singu so that the mobs are back nice and bunched up when it pops. That makes them much easier to handle. Unless I'm tossing them over the railing of course...
We are definitely dominating, and we are always about to win.
I simple give up and started to form unexperienced groups to try CN. Seens to be only way to do DDs now and the only way to get a GWF in a CN run. Playing in Beholder.
Check out Kolatmaster's GWF build in the barracks. I run with his GWF - Leeroy Jenkins quite a bit now. He can hold agro very well, take huge amounts of damage, and still dish out a ton of damage too. Real asset to the party for pretty much every dungeon.
Though I will say I was skeptical of him just based on the fact he was a GWF the first time I grouped with him, even after inspecting and seeing his perfect lightning heh. I guess I'm a little bit classist =P (Mostly b/c I had a sent. GWF that couldn't hold any agro, I guess its a l2play issue and not class issue lol)
We are definitely dominating, and we are always about to win.
GWF as my main. I don't have perfect anything. Running rank 5 and 6 enchants. I don't have my armor or weapon enchant yet, either. Only just recently got my stone. However, I rock pretty much every T2 dungeon and people love having me in the group. I don't look for groups anymore. My guild and people on my friends list are always asking me to join a dungeon run. Just about every time I group with new people, they want to add me to their friends list. The class is great when played well.
A couple things I do that makes me very effective that I don't see most GWFs doing:
- I'm not ultra spec for damage. Very well rounded, rather. Though, I still top the damage charts because I don't have to worry about taking too much damage most of the time. Just stand there beating things down.
- I carry an armor set for extra DPS when my group has control of the enemies through the run and I carry a defense suit when my group is having trouble with that. I also toss on my defense gear for most bosses and tank/kite all of the adds while the group easily kills the boss.
I've been playing a GF for a very short time (like 2 weeks). Bought a full T2 set. I've been able to get in a handful of T2 dungeons. I can admit i'm definitely not the best GF ever. Probably just a really average one. But there's another issue, it's people having very different expectations. I know myself i hate having a GF pulling all adds in random places when i play my CW, so i tend to avoid doing that. Some teams also expect me to tank the boss, some others expect me to kite adds, some people want the tank to tank adds in a corner while CWs dps them...
My point is that people have very different expectations, and it's really hard to adapt, especially when they don't tell you anything and then start complaining you weren't doing what they want. A tank can do pretty much any of the aforementioned strats, but of course people expect you read in their minds. I play my GF the way i want people to play their GFs when i play my CW or my DC (which is: leave adds alone and focus on big guys). It can't please everyone, and it leads of course to very unpleasant experiences if you don't tell him what you want right away.
Now that i can play a GF i know the key is to communicate with him to have a smooth run, otherwise, he'll start doing his stuff and it won't be what i/the team expects.