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About Wondrous Bazaar ???

elek666elek666 Member Posts: 17 Arc User
edited February 2016 in General Discussion (PC)
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  • lyfebanelyfebane Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 312 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    Yep I agree, needs looking at.
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  • kiralynkiralyn Member Posts: 1,440 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Well, you can't really compare to the AH prices - 1. the players are responsible for that, and 2. the devs therefore had no idea what they'd be like.



    What you can do, is compare to zen store prices. Like..... both mount training books is 2.8m AD. The absolute worst, dev-defined AD:zen exchange rate is 500:1. 2.8m AD = 5600 zen, which is far more than just buying a T3 Zen store mount (account wide!) would cost. And it only gets worse as the exchange rate drops. So yeah, those prices could use a review. :)


    Also,
    since the whole sense of Wondrous Bazaar is to help beginners,

    ...where has it ever said or implied that? The WB has always looked, to me, like a giant diamond sink, most of the items there to suck AD off the rich.
  • kentuckyfriedfookentuckyfriedfoo Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    It is there for people to accidentally waste AD on in order to lower the amount of AD in the system and increase the demand for zen.
  • knightfalzknightfalz Member Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    The cat can be wondrous.
  • imsmithyimsmithy Member Posts: 1,378 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    elek666 wrote: »
    same with blue helmets with 1 slot, on AH you cen buy round 12.000 - 13.000 :mad: !

    If you can get me a Control Wizard hat that looks the same as the wonderus bazaar one for 12k then let me know where , that hat model is completely unique and the WB is the only place in the entire game where you can get it right now, but I do agree , prices seriously need to drop .
    kiralyn wrote: »
    The WB has always looked, to me, like a giant diamond sink, most of the items there to suck AD off the rich.

    Yep , I have to agree with this , taking the Wizard hat as an example ,it costs about 1.5 mil AD and it's literally the only really good looking CW hat in the entire game atm and I'm guessing that the other classes unique hat in the WB are equally cool looking to use in transmorg so yeah , deffo a huge AD sink.
  • krisst0fkrisst0f Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    The ZEN prices should REFLECT the price in the auction house... This is what an "ECONOMY IS", not price control, particularly when they are too high...

    Are the developers paying attention? Probably not.
  • jumajiijumajii Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I agree with the OP. In general, AD prices on items in the bazaar are far too steep. And the incoming additions in other areas (a.k.a companion upgrades) are also far too steep. waste of time. Cryptic needs to realize that there is a threshold where people will simply not buy when its too steep. the mounts, the companions..all far too steep. simple as that. Almost no one will be taking advantage of the companion upgrades with the current cost. they are literally wasting dev time putting it in place at the aforementioned prices.

    And I also agree that the prices should reflect market, or at least attempt to support the market. in most MMO's I've played, the vendors tend to be slightly off the market ( a bit more expensive to buy, a bit less overall to sell). this gives the AH an advantage, but still makes the vendors a reasonable alternative. At this point the vendors aren't reasonable...they are a laughable joke.
  • lostmarblesherelostmarbleshere Banned Users Posts: 654 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    elek666 wrote: »
    Prices in Wondrous Bazaar should be reduced since it's totally useless atm. Eg.

    For price of one mount training II in Wondrous Bazaar, you can buy two horses LV2 in AH,
    for mount training III you can buy three horses LV3 on a AH,
    for one Dancing Blade in Wondrous Bazaar you cen get round 20 - 25 in AH,
    for blue armor with 2 slots in Wondrous Bazaar you cen buy round 7.000 - 8.000 in AH,
    same with blue helmets with 1 slot, on AH you cen buy round 12.000 - 13.000 :mad: !

    For price of 1 enchantment LV1 in Wondrous Bazaar, you cen get round 40 - 50 in AH,
    for LV2 round 150 - 200 in AH
    for LV3 round 250 - 300 in AH etc, etc ...

    Prices should be fixed, since the whole sense of Wondrous Bazaar is to help beginners, and currently does not help anyone.

    Of course when this would be repaired, to prevent the exploit, all items purchased in the Wondrous Bazaar should be bound!

    Unfortunately, currently there is nothing wondrous in this Wondrous Bazzar :(

    LOL it wont get changed. To reflect the AH prices. The much inflated prices are there for a reason. Someone who is new to the game that doesnt know to much about it will by mistake pay the huge fees in the bazzar. Cryptic hopes they even buy zen convert it to ad then pay for these other bazzar prices. Its a cash grab and a way for them to get people to burn or waist ad when they dont need to. YOu do know how the F2P game model works right?


    This thread will get closed by the censor hammer. Or now they are even just deleting posts they dont like.
  • knightfalzknightfalz Member Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    lostmarbleshere wrote: »
    LOL it wont get changed. To reflect the AH prices.

    They won't be changed because it doesn't make sense to devote the time and energy it would take to have NPC prices reflect auction house prices. People are capable of comparison shopping. If the auction house price of something is higher than the market price they will simply buy from the market. Since there is a quest designed to introduce players to the market it is unlikely the developers are trying to hide that prices differ in order to benefit.
  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    More people know about the existence of the AH than they do about the Wondrous Bazaar.

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  • wowlullabieswowlullabies Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Some of the items such as the GWF Dragon set in the Bazaar are ridiculously useless and doesn't reflect a logical price that the AH illustrates for dungeon gear.
  • elek666elek666 Member Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited February 2016
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  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    wowlullabies wrote: »
    Some of the items such as the GWF Dragon set in the Bazaar are ridiculously useless and doesn't reflect a logical price that the AH illustrates for dungeon gear.

    From what I gather from the Tymora event, armor items dropping from the boxes have the same skins as the WB ones. The point of them isn't so much to wear them as to use them to transmute your preferred gear, as they are attractive skins. Optional vanity items... which would be more obvious if there were a preview function for items you don't own.

    Edit: Same goes for the wizard hat.
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  • vientorvientor Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 80
    edited July 2013
    krisst0f wrote: »
    The ZEN prices should REFLECT the price in the auction house... This is what an "ECONOMY IS", not price control, particularly when they are too high...

    Are the developers paying attention? Probably not.


    The AD store is not there to reflect the economy, it is there to get people to waste as much AD as possible, so they will have less to trade for Zen. It is an AD sink, just like armor appearance changes, enchantment removal, and many other things.

    No, they are not paying attention, because they don't care. it is serving its purpose. They aren't really looking to make it more convenient, or useful, for us.
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