So sick of these posts... Learn to beat them, its really not that hard...Really! If they are decked out in rank9/perfect enchants, then yes, they are going to OWN you most of the time and rightly so as they probably spent well over 1000$ on their character (which would be the same with any other class). The fact is that the rogues people are crying about are very few and far between...95% of rogues can't and don't do the things people whine about on these forums and can easily be countered by all the other classes....Please stop crying about this!!
rogue is easily the most newbie friendly class, you don't even have to be skilled to get kill for kill ratio, even if you're a bad rogue you can still get kills because you always have the surprise advantage, I hope the QQ threads keep going untill they nerf this stupid class.
rogue is easily the most newbie friendly class, you don't even have to be skilled to get kill for kill ratio, even if you're a bad rogue you can still get kills because you always have the surprise advantage, I hope the QQ threads keep going untill they nerf this stupid class.
Im still downloading the game , have yet to player ever. I come from another online game in which pvp kids was killing the pvm content of game because of their constant cry for nerfs on various classes. This is not looking good
rogue is easily the most newbie friendly class, you don't even have to be skilled to get kill for kill ratio, even if you're a bad rogue you can still get kills because you always have the surprise advantage, I hope the QQ threads keep going untill they nerf this stupid class.
Says the guy who streams himself playing Rogue at least a few hours everyday. Says the guy who relies on 7 Greater Tenebrous to carry his bad Rogue (and every other class him and his guild plays) to a respectable K/D every game. Says the guy who abused broken Thunderhead Enchants as much as possible until they recently got fixed. I also hope these QQ threads keep going because I love swimming in the salty tears of all the whiny baddies that plague this game.
P.S. your Rogue blows. Wish you were on Mindflayer so I can blow you the f*ck up on my Rogue and show you how the class is really supposed to be played.
Says the guy who streams himself playing Rogue at least a few hours everyday. Says the guy who relies on 7 Greater Tenebrous to carry his bad Rogue (and every other class him and his guild plays) to a respectable K/D every game. Says the guy who abused broken Thunderhead Enchants as much as possible until they recently got fixed. I also hope these QQ threads keep going because I love swimming in the salty tears of all the whiny baddies that plague this game.
P.S. your Rogue blows. Wish you were on Mindflayer so I can blow you the f*ck up on my Rogue and show you how the class is really supposed to be played.
Somebody needs to cool down with an ice cold glass of lemonade. xD
*EDIT*
Our guild does do test shard premades, just get ahold of one of the higher-ups.
Says the guy who streams himself playing Rogue at least a few hours everyday. Says the guy who relies on 7 Greater Tenebrous to carry his bad Rogue (and every other class him and his guild plays) to a respectable K/D every game. Says the guy who abused broken Thunderhead Enchants as much as possible until they recently got fixed. I also hope these QQ threads keep going because I love swimming in the salty tears of all the whiny baddies that plague this game.
P.S. your Rogue blows. Wish you were on Mindflayer so I can blow you the f*ck up on my Rogue and show you how the class is really supposed to be played.
lol so much nerd hate and rage, didn't get your daily HAMSTER?
come premade us @ PTR, I'm dying to see how you outplay me
Says the guy who streams himself playing Rogue at least a few hours everyday. Says the guy who relies on 7 Greater Tenebrous to carry his bad Rogue (and every other class him and his guild plays) to a respectable K/D every game. Says the guy who abused broken Thunderhead Enchants as much as possible until they recently got fixed. I also hope these QQ threads keep going because I love swimming in the salty tears of all the whiny baddies that plague this game.
P.S. your Rogue blows. Wish you were on Mindflayer so I can blow you the f*ck up on my Rogue and show you how the class is really supposed to be played.
You certainly are on a high horse, given the behavior I have seen from you. I disagree with the llantiss also but lets keep this on topic.
TR's don't need a nerf just because bad players can't figure them out, llantiss included.
First perma stealth. My hard counter is /leave they are owned. I will do this till they aren't bugged anymore.
Next damage from stealth needs to break stealth.
They have the best of everything in the game are they over powered no. Do they make the game unenjoyable for most of the players yes. If you want to jump and dagger and stay stealthed that's cool I just leave to find a real fight. Everything from there SE still does about 80% to much damage too there utilitys and stealth needs adjustment. Do I have all the answers for them to fix it NO. Does this game want to get better well it starts with fixing the rogue/ exploited perma stealth class so players can enjoy the game.
A game is about enjoyment on some lvl's and its not about trying to counter them. Its about poor exploited mechanics that allow for perma stealth and no one should have to fight that and guess what a lot of us won't. /leave is a hard counter and well at least I can let them have no glory till they are fixed.
First perma stealth. My hard counter is /leave they are owned. I will do this till they aren't bugged anymore.
Next damage from stealth needs to break stealth.
They have the best of everything in the game are they over powered no. Do they make the game unenjoyable for most of the players yes. If you want to jump and dagger and stay stealthed that's cool I just leave to find a real fight. Everything from there SE still does about 80% to much damage too there utilitys and stealth needs adjustment. Do I have all the answers for them to fix it NO. Does this game want to get better well it starts with fixing the rogue/ exploited perma stealth class so players can enjoy the game.
A game is about enjoyment on some lvl's and its not about trying to counter them. Its about poor exploited mechanics that allow for perma stealth and no one should have to fight that and guess what a lot of us won't. /leave is a hard counter and well at least I can let them have no glory till they are fixed.
Its the enchants that are overpowered, not the class, and everyone crying needs to understand that. The trade off of Perma-stealth is significantly LESS dmg output which is an intended mechanic that makes the class more DYNAMIC. With inclusion of the Recovery stat, and the gear which shortens cool downs, its obvious that the dev's intended for perma-stealth to be an option. If the rogue has 500 dollars of enchants equipped then this build becomes OP (most of the other classes have examples of this too). But the build itself is not OP.
If you are getting dominated by a run of the mill rogue using the perma-stealth build and you can't figure out how to beat them, you SERIOUSLY just need to get better and stop crying for a nerf. Thats not meant as an insult, its just the truth. The class itself is not OP and can be killed just as easily as all the other classes. Expensive enchantments ARE OP and are exasperating any balance issues that currently exist across all classes. The few people out there that have 1000 dollars worth of enchantments are going to dominate you no matter what class you are....Nerf the enchants before you nerf the classes please.
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ghostravynMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 59
So sick of these posts... Learn to beat them, its really not that hard...Really! If they are decked out in rank9/perfect enchants, then yes, they are going to OWN you most of the time and rightly so as they probably spent well over 1000$ on their character (which would be the same with any other class). The fact is that the rogues people are crying about are very few and far between...95% of rogues can't and don't do the things people whine about on these forums and can easily be countered by all the other classes....Please stop crying about this!!
Would love some advice. Because your endless "L2P" chant isn't helping here ...
Would love some advice. Because your endless "L2P" chant isn't helping here ...
Cleric in pvp gear: checked.
Adding stats in wisdom : checked.
Low defense : checked.
Try adding into STR and CHA btw...Add an armor enchantment...Add more defense (minimum 2k ) and you need more critical chance.
Buy some pyrotechnic or any rings that gives regen + armor pen for PvP.
Btw that TR dealt that much damage on you because he was on his Lurker Assault ( daily) which increase out coming damage by 60%.
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ghostravynMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 59
edited July 2013
Yeah - this isn't my PVP build.
The goal was to show that "L2P" isn't a good counter for balance when the other player doesn't need to. I've said it before - a crappy player can take a rogue out and "pwn face" (I know - I do it all the time myself while singing a parody of Katy Perry - "I shanked a heals and I liked it ...") whereas a cleric has to be an exceptional player or have an exceptional team. Fussing about balance from inside pugs is probably not in the best interest of fairness either.
The most successful offensive build I've had is a Hammer of Wrath/Punishing Light build. Like what happened here, I have to be precharged for the "alpha strike" and then fire it off first chance I get. The only time I've had a decent heals build was when I pugged with another cleric and we supported each other as well as the rest of the team. I will say that it seems kind of problematic that a cleric needs another cleric to keep alive long enough to actually be part of the team. It's bad enough that we walk into the match pre-stamped with a huge "Shivs go here!" sign.
rogue is easily the most newbie friendly class, you don't even have to be skilled to get kill for kill ratio, even if you're a bad rogue you can still get kills because you always have the surprise advantage, I hope the QQ threads keep going untill they nerf this stupid class.
Denied. A rogue hasn't "suprised me" in weeks. Maybe because I'm a paranoid in PvP
rogue is easily the most newbie friendly class, you don't even have to be skilled to get kill for kill ratio, even if you're a bad rogue you can still get kills because you always have the surprise advantage, I hope the QQ threads keep going untill they nerf this stupid class.
qft
the threads 'O whine will never stop the blowhards 'O TR defense whine
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inexgravMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited July 2013
open you eyes, and try play range class..
non skilled players = rogues
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zebularMember, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 15,270Community Moderator
edited July 2013
. . . . . We don't need threads that troll other threads. Please just post in existing threads and constructively add to the discussion and help enlighten any that you feel might be misunderstanding gameplay. There's no need to degrade anyone. Thanks!
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lol @ this troll
Says the guy who streams himself playing Rogue at least a few hours everyday. Says the guy who relies on 7 Greater Tenebrous to carry his bad Rogue (and every other class him and his guild plays) to a respectable K/D every game. Says the guy who abused broken Thunderhead Enchants as much as possible until they recently got fixed. I also hope these QQ threads keep going because I love swimming in the salty tears of all the whiny baddies that plague this game.
P.S. your Rogue blows. Wish you were on Mindflayer so I can blow you the f*ck up on my Rogue and show you how the class is really supposed to be played.
Somebody needs to cool down with an ice cold glass of lemonade. xD
*EDIT*
Our guild does do test shard premades, just get ahold of one of the higher-ups.
lol so much nerd hate and rage, didn't get your daily HAMSTER?
come premade us @ PTR, I'm dying to see how you outplay me
You certainly are on a high horse, given the behavior I have seen from you. I disagree with the llantiss also but lets keep this on topic.
TR's don't need a nerf just because bad players can't figure them out, llantiss included.
Next damage from stealth needs to break stealth.
They have the best of everything in the game are they over powered no. Do they make the game unenjoyable for most of the players yes. If you want to jump and dagger and stay stealthed that's cool I just leave to find a real fight. Everything from there SE still does about 80% to much damage too there utilitys and stealth needs adjustment. Do I have all the answers for them to fix it NO. Does this game want to get better well it starts with fixing the rogue/ exploited perma stealth class so players can enjoy the game.
A game is about enjoyment on some lvl's and its not about trying to counter them. Its about poor exploited mechanics that allow for perma stealth and no one should have to fight that and guess what a lot of us won't. /leave is a hard counter and well at least I can let them have no glory till they are fixed.
Its the enchants that are overpowered, not the class, and everyone crying needs to understand that. The trade off of Perma-stealth is significantly LESS dmg output which is an intended mechanic that makes the class more DYNAMIC. With inclusion of the Recovery stat, and the gear which shortens cool downs, its obvious that the dev's intended for perma-stealth to be an option. If the rogue has 500 dollars of enchants equipped then this build becomes OP (most of the other classes have examples of this too). But the build itself is not OP.
If you are getting dominated by a run of the mill rogue using the perma-stealth build and you can't figure out how to beat them, you SERIOUSLY just need to get better and stop crying for a nerf. Thats not meant as an insult, its just the truth. The class itself is not OP and can be killed just as easily as all the other classes. Expensive enchantments ARE OP and are exasperating any balance issues that currently exist across all classes. The few people out there that have 1000 dollars worth of enchantments are going to dominate you no matter what class you are....Nerf the enchants before you nerf the classes please.
Cleric in pvp gear: checked.
Adding stats in wisdom : checked.
Low defense : checked.
Try adding into STR and CHA btw...Add an armor enchantment...Add more defense (minimum 2k ) and you need more critical chance.
Buy some pyrotechnic or any rings that gives regen + armor pen for PvP.
Btw that TR dealt that much damage on you because he was on his Lurker Assault ( daily) which increase out coming damage by 60%.
The goal was to show that "L2P" isn't a good counter for balance when the other player doesn't need to. I've said it before - a crappy player can take a rogue out and "pwn face" (I know - I do it all the time myself while singing a parody of Katy Perry - "I shanked a heals and I liked it ...") whereas a cleric has to be an exceptional player or have an exceptional team. Fussing about balance from inside pugs is probably not in the best interest of fairness either.
The most successful offensive build I've had is a Hammer of Wrath/Punishing Light build. Like what happened here, I have to be precharged for the "alpha strike" and then fire it off first chance I get. The only time I've had a decent heals build was when I pugged with another cleric and we supported each other as well as the rest of the team. I will say that it seems kind of problematic that a cleric needs another cleric to keep alive long enough to actually be part of the team. It's bad enough that we walk into the match pre-stamped with a huge "Shivs go here!" sign.
Denied. A rogue hasn't "suprised me" in weeks. Maybe because I'm a paranoid in PvP
Here for the build+guide
qft
the threads 'O whine will never stop the blowhards 'O TR defense whine
non skilled players = rogues
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