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Please tell me pvp gets better latter on with my poor DC?
irk2013
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I am lvl 21 right now and pvp sucks.... I am the 1st one targeted I can't kill anyone without help... My healing is subpar and can't even BEGIN to keep up with the damage being dealt.
I feel like a wasted space on any pvp team, and hope it gets better for us later on. For if it doesn't one less DC for pvp as I will roll with one of the better classes.
I feel like a wasted space on any pvp team, and hope it gets better for us later on. For if it doesn't one less DC for pvp as I will roll with one of the better classes.
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You will not be the first one targetted if try hard enough to make yourself difficult to target. Stick with other people and use LoS when possible. Use chains to discourage other people from chasing you or to trap other people for your allies to kill. The only healing spells you should be using for PvP at these levels are Astral Seal and Healing Word. Divine Healing Word is your main heal spell. Sunburst won't do quite as much healing or damage yet so avoid using it. You should have no trouble out-healing 1 or 2 attackers if you kite. Use Soothing Light where necessary.
Finally, spam auto-attacks and learn to aim your Daunting Light. Daunting Light is a real killer at these levels. Seriously, how are you struggling in PvP at these levels? Perhaps you're trying too hard to be healbot, in which case you're playing the class wrong. You can try to play a pure healbot past level 30 or so if you wish, otherwise you are supposed to be a nuker/healer.
That said, yes, it does improve a little bit at later levels because of Astral Shield or Divine Armor and you can gear yourself specifically for PvP while using all offensive spells and do better.
But the problem is that all the other classes, who are already good now, get a LOT better. So, in relative terms, you just become the worst class for PvP by a mile.
In high level PvP your job is to make other classes better while trying to stay alive. Obviously, you will fail spectacularly and very often in pugs, but that's why all of us are looking for a good guild.
PvP is no good as a cleric, I only have 9.1gs though so maybe it gets better when you get decent gear. Good luck getting better gear if you do not have the AD for it though as T2 dungeons with 9.1gs in a pug is HAMSTER especially if there only low geared too.
I guess you need to find a guild as the above poster said.
You are in your glory period as a DC in PvP right now. You will most likely never be as strong again in PvP as a cleric as you are at the lower levels. Around 40 your strength as a cleric in PvP starts noticeably dropping, at level 60 things are as bad as can be for the cleric in PvP.
clerics are supposed to heal, they are also given life steal on what should be their better equipment... they can't even heal themselves as well as a GWF does in a fight
That's what I did. I'm no longer playing on my Cleric, I play on my GWF now - which is actually fun.
WHY should I have to find a guild to be able to play my class in pvp when no other class has that disadvantage? I am just saying..
That logic just gets everyone nerfed. Better the DC gets brought up to par and everyone's happy rather than everyone else getting nerfed and everyone is pissed off.
Just stay calm....it will only get worse from here on. Cheers CLERIC ROCKS YEAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
It only get worse the higher level you go...
or if you want to do damage roll a rogue or CW because there damage is only like dobbel your healing and 3 times your damage!
Playing PVP as a cleric in level 60 is like a race to the top of a mountain with a waterfall! you have to climb at the side with the waterfall every drop of water hurts like boiling acid, everytime you get hit by 5 drops a family member of yours dies! if you do not make it to the top of this mountain that is 800 meters high in 3 mins a bomb on your HAMSTER goes off killing you! while your climbing ther are ofc machinegunners shooting at you constantly, if you get hit by them you die! and lastly if you touch one of the wrong stones on the mountain a mine goes off killing you! while the water is ofc filled with lazer shooting fish that can also travel in time to kill your grand grand grand parents!
lol, some like a challenge
I fell from my chair while loughing. If it would be possible, I would use this as my sig
In all seriousness though you would think clerics were wearing cloth for all they have for defence.
It's getting that bad? I'm lvl 31 and feel more or less comfortable in PvP, when all of my teammates aren't brain dead "hurr imma dps durr killz". Sometimes I'm the only one who sees that there is an opportunity to capture point, so I go there and capture it (selfishly leaving party behind without a healing, yes! selfish, horrible, bad newb cleric!). When angry enemy party appears, I can wait there for a few moments and "tank" them untill (and if) help arrives. Although damage mitigation could be better, considering that I'm wearing the best blues I could find (
if your team doesn't go for the nodes you have to or else lose the match
Honestly if feels like my cleric is wearing cloth, my TR and CW feel more durable then my cleric!! Yet my cleric is supposedly wearing chain mail....
Clerics are going to be natural target since they can heal. Clerics need to have a better armour class not much lower then that of a GWF. The GEF wear scale mail which would be a bit stronger then chain mail.
My level 60 TR has an armour class of 17
my level 60 DC has an armour class of 21 yet feels way more squishy. Something very wrong with that picture...
That said - my DC playing did become more enjoyable when I stopped trying to out DPS the other classes, concentrated on buffing the *team* (sometimes an oxymoron) to the extent possible, and started applying a few of the tricks I picked up on the forums. Like - picking linked spirit as a feat and switching to divine mode on a sunburst during the animation to proc it. Like hallowed ground with moontouched for a cap point that heals the team, with a normal astral shield as the sprinkles on top. Like dropping a normal healing word then a divine healing word straight after. Like making sure there's a heal ticking whenever possible - cause you will be repeatedly cc'd *just* when you feel like a health top up. Like - managing divinity so you have it when you need it - which a lot of the time means running *into* the pack to rip off a sunburst. Like - picking the right time to slide - although sometimes there's never a right time to slide, and you always have one too few slides. Like - astral seal spam everything. This is my fairly **** list of stuff that helped me out immensely. Any other obvious ones?
So not pro by any means - but there are things you can do to increase your utility, and I'm trying to pick those up incrementally. Of course - this is not a fun way to play at all if you are DPS oriented - you will hit like a fist full of soggy ramen apart from the occasional burst from a hammer of fate or whatever damage daily you slot. There are fun looking DPS specs (albeit highly geared ones) on these forums that look viable from the videos they post - but there's no way I even come close to the gear needed to make those worky.
Anyway - good luck. Hope we get some tinkering to make DC a bit more fun - there's no arguing with the level of disenchantment with this class from the people who play it.
PVP: How to make your life less miserable as a Devoted Clerics -- Still in it's Unfinished Glory
Dragon
if you kite its harder than hell to land even when they are standing still, its a good skill to use if you are slotting AS but isn't one I'd go with if you aren't
PVP: How to make your life less miserable as a Devoted Clerics -- Still in it's Unfinished Glory
Dragon
I just spent hours PvP'ing against Guardians and I didn't even dent their health... well... perhaps a tiny bit... but they rolled right over me keeping me CC'd and such.
Cleric's in this game, at least for PvP, need to have their self-heal penalty (i.e. -40%) REMOVED in the PvP zone.