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What is the deal with "Recommended" equipment?

scott451scott451 Member Posts: 8 Arc User
edited July 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
Do equipment stats matter?

I have a situation where I used my tailoring skills to get a "blue" castor's cap. Because the system said that equipment was better than what I had (a "green" head piece).

Well, I spend all this time getting it, then I look at the stats as far as hit point, defense, etc. And the "green" equipment seems better.

So my question is, do stats matter? Or is the "blue" just always better no matter what? Or is the system recommended equipment always better? No matter what the stats seem to indicate?

Thanks in advance.
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  • dardovedardove Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    It goes by the value of the item. Value is determined by quality and level.
  • azmoran11azmoran11 Member Posts: 51
    edited July 2013
    Go with what your gut tells you, ignore the recommended, it's not very good. And yes, it probably wants you to wear it because it's blue and not green at around the same level. Go with green if you think it has the better stats for you.
  • scott451scott451 Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    That stinks. Because the guides (what there are of them) tell you that you never have to worry about what is better.

    The "system" will tell you that through what is recommended and what is not.

    If that is really not the case..........ho boy.
  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    The game does provide a guide to +/- stats in the item comparison window, which is much more useful than the yellow text that says "recommended".

    Learn which stats are most useful for your build and always look for increases to those.
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  • neverwinter1776neverwinter1776 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    The "recommended" is not what you should look at all. It does automatically say something is better depending on color, so it will always "recommend" the prettier color.
    You should be looking at the benefits on the build you are best with. As mentioned, the "comparison" stats (+/-) makes more sense to judge with, and it again is always YOUR choice.
    I run a Trickster with a lot of Regen stats as I'm not always using a Cleric companion. It's what works for you, but the "recommended" in my opinion is always just biased to what's a higher level or what's white, green, blue etc
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  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    "Recommended" is literally is based on nothing but sell value. Since the game values greens over whites and blues over either, unless there's a major level discrepancy, it will look like it's basing the rec on colour.

    If you took a white ring with 40 crit and compared it to a green ring with 30, the game would recommend the green ring, because it's more expensive. Likewise if you compared two rings each with 40 crit, a green and a blue, it would recommend the blue, because it's more expensive.
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  • erethizon1erethizon1 Member Posts: 185 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    The game uses the sell value to recommend things. This means that the game will recommend a level 30 blue over a level 60 green just because the merchant will pay you more for the blue. Needless to say, ignore the recommendations and just look at the stats.
  • chuckwolfchuckwolf Member Posts: 634 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    The problem is "recommended" doesn't take the relative levels of the equipment you are comparing into consideration. You could have a blue level 10 piece and a green level 30, it will still show the blue to be recommended simply because it's blue, and at level 10 was most likely very good, but not compared to the level 30. Best way is to simply ignore the recommended, and actually equip something while you have the character sheet open so you can see how it effects Gear Score and stats.
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  • yokanaanyokanaan Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 151 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    Thinking which equipment suits your playstyle better is whole charm of every game. If you don't like it - what can I say.

    Recommended is just a tip.
  • scott451scott451 Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    chuckwolf wrote: »
    The problem is "recommended" doesn't take the relative levels of the equipment you are comparing into consideration. You could have a blue level 10 piece and a green level 30, it will still show the blue to be recommended simply because it's blue, and at level 10 was most likely very good, but not compared to the level 30. Best way is to simply ignore the recommended, and actually equip something while you have the character sheet open so you can see how it effects Gear Score and stats.

    Makes sense. And I have done that kind of thing in the past. Unfortunately, you actually have to have the piece of equipment to do that. You can't simply look at a potential piece of equipment you are considering to purchase or build in professions and see how it effects your gear score.

    But......hey.......it is what it is. What I'm hearing is color or system "recommended" does not matter. What matters is the stats of the equipment (i.e. +/-) and how it effects your character's gear score at your level.

    So I'll just go with that.

    Thanks.
  • skalt112skalt112 Member Posts: 1,089 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    It's like when your friend, who is a garbage man recommends a stock to buy.
  • tinkerstormtinkerstorm Member Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    dardove wrote: »
    It goes by the value of the item. Value is determined by quality and level.
    That is just as invalid as the concept of gear score. 'Recommended' and 'Gear Score' are training wheels for clueless players.
  • ledmonsonledmonson Member Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Neverwinter uses the same scaling system as WoW. A level 60 white is equal to a 55 green which is equal to a lvl 50 blue and is equal to a 45 purp. I found this out by looking at damages on weapons.
  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Well, now I feel like my assessment of how the game determines recommended gear is flawed. I was pricing out some Manticore Seal items and even though the listed gold cost of one item I looked at was more than what I was wearing, the game was recommending what I already had on. But I don't know if this was affected by the fact that I wasn't high enough level to equip the item in the store anyway.
    skalt112 wrote: »
    It's like when your friend, who is a garbage man recommends a stock to buy.

    Are you suggesting all garbage men are stupid? Haven't you read Dilbert?
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  • griz024griz024 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 138 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    Recommended is useless.

    Dont listen to it at all or your toon will be terrible.

    I realized it the same way you did. I notice it recommended a blue with worst stats just b/c it was blue.
  • shefenhowshefenhow Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 61
    edited July 2013
    beckylunatic wrote: »
    But I don't know if this was affected by the fact that I wasn't high enough level to equip the item in the store anyway.

    It won't recommend items till you are able to wear them.
  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    shefenhow wrote: »
    It won't recommend items till you are able to wear them.

    Cool, thanks. Then I stand by my assessment that the only factor the game looks at when recommending is the item's cash value.
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  • skalt112skalt112 Member Posts: 1,089 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    beckylunatic wrote: »
    Well, now I feel like my assessment of how the game determines recommended gear is flawed. I was pricing out some Manticore Seal items and even though the listed gold cost of one item I looked at was more than what I was wearing, the game was recommending what I already had on. But I don't know if this was affected by the fact that I wasn't high enough level to equip the item in the store anyway.



    Are you suggesting all garbage men are stupid? Haven't you read Dilbert?

    No , I don't think they are all stupid, I just think there are much better places to get advice on stocks.
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