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Today i registered for college classes...only to find out they're not accepting American Express....and classes are almost full.
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I know this thread will be moved/closed but I just wanted to vent out my frustration.
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I know this thread will be moved/closed but I just wanted to vent out my frustration.
adios.
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all it is is a way to get people into lifetime servitude due to thier debt..... started at a ripe young age.
its a for profit business, not an educational opportunity
---- FIRE EVERYTHING ! ----
but no degree no job. If only I can win Mega Millions Lottery
---- FIRE EVERYTHING ! ----
Plenty of jobs in the medical field
and the army is hiring ......
---- FIRE EVERYTHING ! ----
I rather work in the hospital where there's plenty of cute female nurses.
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Because we all want to be treated by doctors that skipped college, or defended by lawyers that skipped law school, or use products designed by "engineers" that stopped with a high school diploma, ... etc...
schools are for profit, yes. They attempt to indoctrinate you to be a good comrade, yes. But the educational opportunity is still there if you choose to make use of it. Get a sensible degree that is marketable -- engineering, hard science & tech, math, law, medicine, .... tons more ... and you will pay off your debt rapidly with your high income job. Get a goofy degree in something useless and end up answering the phone or doing data entry for a living and paying off the debt can be extremely difficult. Like any opportunity, college is what YOU make of it.
This...
In fact, plenty of jobs for those with degrees in STEM.
I've got several friends with degrees. One works at Taco Bell, and he's actually not too bad off because he's responsible and works. The other is unemployed because he couldn't physically handle working in a Chicken Plant, and he's about 30 grand in debt. The other is married to the unemployed one, also unemployed, and also about 30 grand in debt. I file taxes as self-employed, and am a high school drop-out. My only problems are worrying about these stray horses that showed up in my pasture this morning, and getting plays for my campaign on here. I'm building my own house also.
Colleges are racist, sexist, social engineering facilities that encourage you to make reckless decisions, and swindle you into a lifetime of indentured servitude to pay off enormous debts that are unjustifiable. Seriously. Their curriculums include "Women's Studies" which is basically a pro-feminist man hating club, blaming men for all the world's problems. Another one is "Whiteness Studies" which is again a pro-feminist man hating club, only with some racism thrown into the mix. What's a degree like Creative Writing good for? You don't need that to submit articles to sites that will actually pay you. I know a housewife who writes for extra income. Computer Repair? Electronics? Pfft, my little sister trains people to do that for a big company, and she never attended college. The only thing I'd recommend going for is Nursing, but only if you have the stomach for wiping butts, inserting catheters, etc.
I turn down job offers all the time from eccentric millionaire old white dudes. They never ask about my education. I could be working at a museum and at excavation sites as an archaeologist with no degree if I wanted. I swear, college is for people who want to screw all the time, and don't really care about learning, but just want an easy ticket to a lot of money. Another get rich easy scheme. If you want to make money, you're probably going to have to work, sweat, and bleed for it. You're better off earnin' than learnin' IMO.
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I feel your pain. Been there, done that. Huge chicken plant in town here. Everyone in my family has done at least one month there. I lasted four hours.
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No formal degree here, just a year of night time college. Yet, first job in I.T. as a mainframe operations technician (back in 1976) paid me more than my father was making as a master machinist with 40 years of experience. Fast forward to now (35 years later), I'm making a healthy 6 figures for a 40 hour week working from home (still in IT). Out of my immediate co-workers (we all do database design), one has a masters in french literature, another has a masters in accounting and one (no longer on my team) had a Ph.D. in Artificial Intelligence from M.I.T. I've known lead programmers with a masters in chemistry too.
So yes, on the STEM degrees, those are well worth doing. 'Creative writing?' on the other hand, my daughter has a masters in that one and is currently an unemployed middle school English teacher (several job offers on her plate tho).
I've had a number of junior programmers with freshly minted comp sci degrees under my wing, it usually takes me about six months to make them unlearn everything in order to do it the right way.
Is it a generic solution? definitely No. the big deception is that it's a "guarantee" to success. Go to college, doors magically open. This is not the case. doors open when you can prove your ability and sell yourself. And sadly, colleges have moved away from this concept and more towards being isolated elitist monastries where you get isolated from reality, and taught that this is a good thing. it's not.
In the real world, you still have to prove yourself, work hard, and be willing to show what you can do. Now, give that, if you approach college smartly it has a great deal of benefits. I had one fellow I used to work and train with (I was an independant business owner for many years) who would say that one of his quailifications for hire was either college degree or military experience. reason was it showed at least a few things:
1) you can meet deadlines, and
2) you have the wherewithal to carry something through to completion.
So....don't go to college just cause it's what you think you should do, or because you think it wil magically open doors. be realistic about what it will give you, make sure you are getting what you need from the college of choice, and make sure that you are gaining the real world skills you need during this process.
anecdote...the guy who sits behind me has 2 masters, and i have about 20 credits in psychology and interpretive dance (yeah...so what. the girls in the class were cute). I am making more then him. BUT to move to NP&E with my company requires a degree. so will it eventually help him out? yes. is it necessary to earn a decent living? no.
It is a tool....if you walk in knowing what it's for and what you will do with it, your fine. if you walk in blind, your going to get something cut off or injure yourself eventually....
EDIT: in the current economical climate....if you haven't started college yet, or haven' signed for any loans....don't. many financial arenas are speculating a college "bubble" bursting in the near future...tons of grads with big loans to pay off...and no jobs out there to support them. And with the new immigration laws on the edge...it isn't looking much better for Americans. so if your over here in the US, id hold off on signing that college loan form for now. make sure there's opportunities in the industry your going in before you sign the next 10 years of your life away (or longer)
The U.S. is the ONLY industrially developed country ON THE PLANET that does not educate its citizens beyond high school.
What this means is that the U.S. is the only country that charges for the first four years of college. Literally EVERY OTHER MAJOR WORLD POWER has no problem educating its population into college. The United States is near the bottom of the list when it comes to education.
Oh, let us not forget "no child left behind" that totally ensures the quality of graduates entering the workforce.
No, "education" in this country has indeed taken a back seat to capitalism.
http://www.ibtimes.com/us-17th-global-education-ranking-finland-south-korea-claim-top-spots-901538
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/17/us-education-slipping-ranks-worldwide-report/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/27/best-education-in-the-wor_n_2199795.html
Occam's Razor makes the cutting clean.
This. Absolutely and totally this.
Yeah, my partner sometimes has to deal with people like you on her digs. It doesn't end well, usually, as insertion of clue often causes a certain amount of alpha male rage. Ghods preserve us all.