test content
Logo
What is the Arc Client?
Install Arc
Rogue Fix Needed - I like this game and dont want it to fail
glacialruin
Member Posts: 10 Arc User
This game has been pretty balanced in PVP from what I have seen until recently. Rouges have been 2 shoting people and in some cases 1 shoting them. I have a well geared GWF With full PVP gear and PVP build. Over the last couple days I have been 2 shoted by rouges and that is insane. One of them took 80% of my HP on his opener from stealth.
I have played pvp oriented MMO's for about 7 years and placed in competitive arena in wow for the last 3 (I played quite 1.5 years ago). Please don't get on the same road as they did with class imbalance. This game is far better than wow from what I have seen so far and I would hate to see players rage quit your game do the simple fix that this could be. I don't ask that rouges be beaten to death with the nerf bat but there opener's need toned down in PVP a bit.
TY
I have played pvp oriented MMO's for about 7 years and placed in competitive arena in wow for the last 3 (I played quite 1.5 years ago). Please don't get on the same road as they did with class imbalance. This game is far better than wow from what I have seen so far and I would hate to see players rage quit your game do the simple fix that this could be. I don't ask that rouges be beaten to death with the nerf bat but there opener's need toned down in PVP a bit.
TY
Post edited by glacialruin on
0
Comments
hint: GWF > TR currently, if you still lose against one, then its not them beeing Op, but the problem is on your end of the stick
get better at the game, learn how it works and learn how to play vs certain classes and you will own everything since youre playing GWF
Seriously, you can pop your unstoppable every freaking 3 seconds, get temporary health points and whatnot, can just stand around while being hacked on by an *entire team* and still out heal them (broken feat, yes I know) and you complain about rogues being op?
Your class deals easily the same damage in pvp, can tank a whole team alone (gf's can't do that), run like a rabbit and still come here to ask for rogues being nerfed?
1. You're a ****ing offtank. Now play one and don't go damage only and complain about having **** damage resistance.
2. A rogues job *is* to kill targets. The class is good for that and nothing more. We can go in, deal insane damage and get killed in less than a second (it hurts so much to be focused by the entire enemy team).
Ok, I better stop the rant now.. Excuse the harsh language, but it had to be said.
GF semi-op
cw-dc trash in pvp
@pyroknight777 in the game ^_^ Don't worry if you see me stalking you...my characters are kind of "new" to social life...I mean how would you think a fire demon-turned hero would react to a girl if all he sees in hell are half-naked devilish women...
A makeup usually used by women.
fix - GWF temp. heal cooldown.
OMG I LOLed....
Seriously though I've come across very few GWFs in PvP that seem underpowered, and by that I mean that I can actually compete against as a CW. IF I can stay out of their way and IF I have enough dodges left to get out of their range I MIGHT have a fighting chance of staying alive but forget stopping long enough to cast a spell.
I love reading the forums...one post says GWFs are OP, underneath is another one with a GWF crying they can't find a group, right below that is a post saying nerf TRs...if we're all OP, um...isn't that balanced?
D&D Home Page - What Class Are You? - Build A Character - D&D Compendium
He doesn't suck.. Rogues just crit for to much is all he is saying. If a stealth 1 shots you or opens with 80% of your life it has nothing to do with being good or bad. It has to do with a stealth class doing to much damage.
Are we playing the same game?
Look around you buddy, everyone is complaining that GWF is OP at the moment and yet your GWF don't excel in PVP?
Your pretty dismissive about the vast number of posts talking about TR being overpowered. You state over and over again LRN2Play.
Keep in mind people can read the rogue forum posts too. Its all I own everyone man we r uber.... Blah blah blah.
So which is it. No use asking you.
Heres a choice one from a rogues build post.
If OP means being able to 1 shot opposing players in PvP then yes, we are OP but so are GWF and CW. All 3 damage classes in Neverwinter can 1 shot players from full health to nothing in a single move.
Im interested in what this one move is for GWF or CW. You rogues post so much misinformation and lies on these forums in order to avoid the nerfbat. Although I really think you do it so you think your two button pressing is EPIC
Have a nice day
and you non-rogues post so much misinformation to swing the nerfbat
I played this game with PInkfont about misinformation.
I just play PVP and read the rogue forums to form my opinons
Dont know where you get yours.
Ohhh its LRN2Play over and over again
I get you have an emotional rant because you don't want to see game balance. Some of us do. As for my skill. Find me in ANY arena. or if you played wow dare you to post your team ratings? Please troll elsewhere scrub
Humm.. what didn't you get about the attack coming from stealth? .. btw GWF have a sprint mechanic .. its not a Dodge like other classes. Frequently get hit while running and that dosent account for latency which is one of the biggest factors in PVP
i see game balance, dont worry
once you have some experience in the game, you will see that too
ofc you thinkg rogues are op right now cause you havent understood yet how the game and your class works, but once you get a grasp on that, your view on rogues will change
its always the lowbobs crying for nerfs cause its easier then learning something themself
sad but true
to be honest there shouldnt be any PVP in D&D!
To be honest there should be only PvP in D&D. D&D is not meant to played against a computer, but against and with humans.
However, the PvP I would like to see is a monster player vs. hero player PvP at which one group take the role of the dungeon master, can spawn minions, lay traps and directly control monster.
And for topic: the most overpowered class is GF. Thats my opinion as a DC and belive me, I know what I talking off because I'm in the focus of the enemy group.
Rogues are deadly, but they fall like flies if controled and focused. A GF can chain knockback, heal him self, has HP/damage migration like hell and can even block control. In addition, they deal very good spike damage.
When fighting GWFs as a TR, if I come at you with Lurker's Assault active, I will win out 90% of the time. If I don't, the GWF will beat me to a quivering pulp 90% of the time. Depending on the flow of the match, it will usually take me a minute or two to recover my AP. Therefore, the GWF has an edge on me the majority of the time.*
Obviously, my experiences are not typical of every player, but I can assure you that most rogues will not 2-shot you except under very specific circumstances unless your gear and spec is extremely unsuited to PvP in.
As stated, I have an opposite situation of having a very hard time against GWF on my TR, but not once have I ever cried about it or used it as an excuse why the class should be nerfed. From everything I've seen, GWFs are a very dominating class in PvP. There is obviously something you're doing wrong if you're having such difficulties. Take your licks and learn from them or cry about your defeats and never improve.
*Should be noted I'm not even specced or geared for PvP at all. Not sure how much bearing that has on my comment, but I'm mentioning it anyway just in case.
Please stop typing, your bias is showing. No matter how you look at it, 15k - 35k crits while completely invisible is completely unacceptable in a game where most players are going to be capping out at 25k HP. This coupled with the fact that they can At-Will you from range before hand for several thousand HP and then hit you just makes it even worse. I shouldn't have to magically divine how close to me a rogue is and hope I dodge at the right time that I don't get 1 shot. I'd much rather fight a GWF then a TR, you know why? I ACTUALLY GET TO FIGHT BACK!
Guardian Fighters like this statement. :cool:
TR's can oneshot you in unstoppable, even if youa re at full health. Also a tr can walk up to four people, oneshot 3 of them, and smoke the fourth. Ive seen it done.
full defensive gwf, sorry to say, is hitting max 10k, with full str primary, and con secondary.
Depends on the build and scenario. GWF Sentinel builds with proper gear can easily have effective 75% DR with deflection and 30k HP, which means you'd have to deal 120k damage to take them down, all while they're healing and cc'ing you. I've never lost 1v1 against a TR with my current build even when they have their daily up.
60 GF(14.5GS) Cersei
60 CW(12.4GS) Shadis
60 TR(12.2GS) Dijkstra
60 GWF(12.2GS) Winnowill
45 DC(WIP) Daenerys
So now the one shots from TR's are up to 35K? I swear people wont be happy until they can face tank a rogue and stomp them in to the ground. SMH.:rolleyes:
Psst ancient Chinese secret... Contrary to popular misbelief, stealth is not invisibility.
So MUCH misinformation on this thread. If you are too lazy to hunt them, or cant figure out a strategy to hunt them, that's your fault. I hunt stealthed rogues all the time. Just because you want an easy lazy kill doesn't mean they shouldn't have their stealth. You act like they can spam all their powers consistently at will with zero recharge times.
People are making assumptions (not informed) and drawing their conclusions from those assumptions, with little to no facts backing it up. I am still waiting for the 50K 1-shot hits while they can stay invulnerable forever. LOL.
If you think a TR is so great, play one.
I have seen every class own in pvp, yes even a few exceptional clerics.