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12k GS yet still getting kicked from CN
bluestone007
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I am a 12k GS, Gaurdian Fighter. I have defeated Draco about a dozen times. Still trying to get my Ancient sword drop. But since I don't have that weapon I am still getting kicked from CN groups. Yes even the few CN groups that will take a GF to the run.
This is not just a one time occurance it happens far too often and alot more often than I actually get groups for CN. Since I dont have full Rank 7 Enchants and I'm not Rocking Plague fire or Holy Avenger enchants on my sword I hope to replace in CN, I just can't get a group.
My GS is nearly 3k above the requirement for this dungeon but the dungeon itself is so difficult that unless you are uber twinked min maxing character that has bought all the gear you need from the dungeon anyways you do not get to be a part of the endgame content of this game.
I prefer to play a game and earn my gear and put money into cosmetics like how this game origionally advertised itself as. But no it is Pay to Win. And it is really player mentally that makes it that way. But I have to say.
Dont hate the player Hate the game. The game dictates player mentality. I have done CN enough to know it is a very difficult dungeon and yes my groups lose more often than we win. But that is also because alot of the time I am bringing new players to CN because sometimes that is the only way a Fighter (either fighter type) can get a group for CN. And new players at around 10k or less GS just can't hack it in CN even though the requirement is 9.2k. ANd since I'm not a top tier 13k-14k GS GF. I'm not welcome in groups that can complete the dungeon. I don't even know if they are justified in doing so. I dont' know how much better I would perform with the uber gear. I just wish I could play a game that lets me earn it...
And thus I am leaving the game. I am familiar with cryptic titles enough to know that issues like this may never be fixed. I just hope that it could be different as I like the combat and the D&D aspect of the game. but Having to shell out fistfuls of cash so other players that hate your class in the first place might have an inkling to take you seriously is not a game I want to play.
So if possible that this could ever be fixed I would have to suggest two things. Either Rank up the GS requirement of CN to about 11-12k and allow playuers to earn that kind of gear score in T2 dungeons. Or simply make CN an easier dungeon. Especially in the area of adds and trash mobs. The main reason fighters are not welcome in CN groups is that we can't handle trash. There is too much trash to tank and we cant kill them anywhere near as fast as CW's can throw them off cliffs.
Good luck to anyone that is going to keep playing this game but I think I'm done for good now. I might look back in a few months to see if anything has changed. But I doubt it
This is not just a one time occurance it happens far too often and alot more often than I actually get groups for CN. Since I dont have full Rank 7 Enchants and I'm not Rocking Plague fire or Holy Avenger enchants on my sword I hope to replace in CN, I just can't get a group.
My GS is nearly 3k above the requirement for this dungeon but the dungeon itself is so difficult that unless you are uber twinked min maxing character that has bought all the gear you need from the dungeon anyways you do not get to be a part of the endgame content of this game.
I prefer to play a game and earn my gear and put money into cosmetics like how this game origionally advertised itself as. But no it is Pay to Win. And it is really player mentally that makes it that way. But I have to say.
Dont hate the player Hate the game. The game dictates player mentality. I have done CN enough to know it is a very difficult dungeon and yes my groups lose more often than we win. But that is also because alot of the time I am bringing new players to CN because sometimes that is the only way a Fighter (either fighter type) can get a group for CN. And new players at around 10k or less GS just can't hack it in CN even though the requirement is 9.2k. ANd since I'm not a top tier 13k-14k GS GF. I'm not welcome in groups that can complete the dungeon. I don't even know if they are justified in doing so. I dont' know how much better I would perform with the uber gear. I just wish I could play a game that lets me earn it...
And thus I am leaving the game. I am familiar with cryptic titles enough to know that issues like this may never be fixed. I just hope that it could be different as I like the combat and the D&D aspect of the game. but Having to shell out fistfuls of cash so other players that hate your class in the first place might have an inkling to take you seriously is not a game I want to play.
So if possible that this could ever be fixed I would have to suggest two things. Either Rank up the GS requirement of CN to about 11-12k and allow playuers to earn that kind of gear score in T2 dungeons. Or simply make CN an easier dungeon. Especially in the area of adds and trash mobs. The main reason fighters are not welcome in CN groups is that we can't handle trash. There is too much trash to tank and we cant kill them anywhere near as fast as CW's can throw them off cliffs.
Good luck to anyone that is going to keep playing this game but I think I'm done for good now. I might look back in a few months to see if anything has changed. But I doubt it
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Trust me, as a cleric player I hate this game. Its obvious they care nothing about those who play cleric. I don't blame you for leaving this game or wanting to, how it made it out of beta beats the hell out of me.
A lot of us ask that same question, to which we are still waiting for a reply.
Life is a dream for the wise, a game for the fool, a comedy for the rich, a tragedy for the poor.
~Sholom Aleichem
simple solution: get a guild
gear score = skill
And to the guy complaining about clerics, you're in the same boat. Despite all the crying, the class balance is relatively good right now, and your class is not a good excuse for being unable to find/complete CN runs.
Gear Score doesn't equal Skill Score.
gear score = money spent on AH
So you didn't get the memo? There are only three classes that bring enough to a dungeon run. Wizard, Rogue and Cleric. You don't need any of the other two, in fact they don't bring enough utility. You are better off doubling up on the one's who do. Bring two rogues and two wizards because you get a lot of CC and add management. Sure the guardian can tank but that is all they can do, they don't provide any add control or management. The rogues can bring the dps and cc so there is no need for a gf or gwf.
Skil score ? I didn't know we have "skill score " in this game . On the other hand I believe the term you wanted to use was " skill cap" lol .
Actually, I totally blame players for playing something they don't enjoy to get rewards they shouldn't care about since they "hate" something so badly.
GFs are fine in a CN run as long as you only get one (two are a pain though), and i've never kicked one before i got two last week. I also blame most GF players for being completely incompetent. Most of them run dps builds and will do everything to make my cleric job harder, which means taking a lot of damage while standing in a red zone, not popping their guard at the right time, pulling aoes toward me so that i have to move constantly, running around like a headless chicken after standing in a red zone so that i can't target them with my 8-10k HP single target heal, and so on. Many GFs give me a headache.
If people hate GFs it's because most of them are useless. It's just not the class, it's the players. Everyone thinks it's all about dps. It works pretty well in T1, might work in some T2s and totally fails in CN. So, yeah, if you have to hate someone, hate players to build a char for T1 and then taking it to CN.
A GF should lead in Dps in CN so why they aren't take is just dumb.
To the OP that does sound painful. I got my CN main and offhand from the AH yup never set foot in there. Why cause I mainly PvP. Just find things you do enjoy about the game and go from there. Getting stuck up on 1 thing makes it difficult cause you are setting yourself up for failure. All dungeons are broke and poorly designed and player have a bad perception on how to do them or what to take with them to do them. So just move on from the CN experience and find a good group to do it.
I sold my greater plague cause of the nerfs and well now I use a vorpal a better enchant. Use what you want to build the character you want and enjoy and do nothing else but that.
Huh. GF should be top damage during trash in CN unless you or your CW(s) are lazy/bad.
What I see most GFs do is act like brave heroes pulling all mobs on them but then they are clueless what to do with it, especially on last boss, I cba to explain why you should always sync your rotation with the wiz's dailys but it seems you dont even mention that so fine.
I suggest either find a guild or roll another char that can easily get into CN like cleric/wiz.
running publics you risk too much getting kicked at the start/mid/end of the dungeon run, not getting your precious gear.
My pet peeve in pugs are the people who pick delve time to try and learn t2 dungeons. I feel like a ******* saint spending 45 minutes helping a group make it to the first boss in spellplague and then the DC leaves and there is nearly an hour of my life basically wasted.
This is it exactly. Our guild routinely runs a GWF who just AOEs all the trash and leads in dps until the dracholich. The CWs also do not trail far behind in damage and control all the garbage effectively.
A tip: if you are conqueror, your real GS is 9k. The last feat gives you tons of GS but is not from your gear.
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If CW is somesthing builded in rene and focused only on control, picked EF on tab like many other advise on this forum, no wonder, that GWF or GF beats him in damage.
Guardians aren't overpowered...clearly the person who wrote this comment, and The Person who started this thread haven't a clue about the Guardian class.
A 12K GF, Conqueror specked is roughly equal to about 9.5K-10K any other class. Why? Because you have an inflated Gear Score. Why? Because ur last feat in the Conqueror tree gives you Double Power! Thereby inflating your gearscore.
Respec your Gaurdian into Tactician or Paragon, and watch your GS drop by at least 2K. So, I'm sorry, as a 12K GF Conqueror, you are nowhere near ready for Castle Never. That is why you get kicked, because you don't belong there.
I have a 12.2K GF conqueor tree, and a new buddy of mine has an 8.8K GF speced in Tactician tree. And his GF beats the hell out of mine any day in performing his role as a tank.
Learn your class before you post a cry thread. You don't belong in Castle Never, boot