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Last day and a half my clerics are unable to play PvP without severe PvP imbalance
wholyhandgrenade
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Two days ago my clerics did quite well in PvP, they could hold their own for a change, but all my matches for the last day and a half have been heavily imbalanced again. GF's hit and instant stun until I'm dead, rogues instant stun and kill me within two hits, and about anything that attacks me takes 2/3rds my health bar, while everything I hit appears to take about half the damage I was doing before.
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you should probably just quit the game I think
can I have your stuff?
dps spec isn't going to keep you from getting slaughtered... defense for clerics is a joke and in the real D&D game clerics were tanking gods as their armor was as good as fighters plus they had prayers that would boost them over the top ... I feel there is nothing you can really do but wait and hope they fix the cleric, the last patch fixed the cleric by cutting their balls off (that isn't the type of fix we need)
if your looking to top charts in kills with a dc you playing the wrong class. mainly your role in pvp is to frustrate the next team from now being able to kill your teammates, in return making you the target...
why you are trolling?
Here is a combo I use which require 3 to kill me. Sun Burst, Healing Word, AS. for passive, I use foresight and divine fortune. Dailies are: HG, Hammer of Fate. For my feat I went full faithful for the extra heals.
And Munkey stop your horrible trolling, you suck at it.
Obviously my sarcasm went way over your head
Me and a friend in a pug, not sucking at the DC class
LOL that paytowin ... it's sad. really
My GS is 11,146. Lesser armor and weapon enchants, and all rank 5. All of which I earned by doing dungeons.
Come again about paytowin?
L2P geek
No offense but seriously you are extremely over geared compared to 95% of the other DCs here and showing some random PvP score card isn't representing the vast majority of DC experiences...
I guess i dont feel my GS is that extremely high. Like I said, its rank 5 enchants, and lesser armor and weapon enchants. I'm using the 4/4 Miracle Healers gear, which from reading the cleric forums, a large majority of players are also using. I posted this very random scorecard because it was just that, me and a buddy in a pug, doing pvp. I showed it because clerics are, and can be viable in PvP. All I hear, and see, is the forums flooded with tears from other clerics. This is proof anyone can be good, with a little practice. I'm not running around one shotting anyone with perfect everything and BiS. I have gear that I earned just doing T2's. I've got no special secret, just some DD's
The screenshot however proves nothing (it was a complete stomp), end-scores tell so little of the story. Munkey's team not only gearing, but out-classing the other team. The only reason that the score was pretty close (i think) is that munkeys team focused more on kills and not on capping nodes (or they were getting back-capped a lot on the base node). I always hate to bust your balls on stuff like this munkey, but this doesn't really prove anything except the TR/GF you ran with went ape sh*t on the other team, and not you necessarily doing well. I reckon Wrath was basically one/two-shotting people from the get go.
PVP: How to make your life less miserable as a Devoted Clerics -- Still in it's Unfinished Glory
Dragon
Was going to say the same thing, so instead I'll quote for truth!
As to the screen shot, there were only two clerics there and the worst player was a cleric that died more times than the amount of kills that Munky's cleric wound up. Munky's cleric came in third on his team in the kill count. His entire team had high assists which means most of the kills were being hit by his team as a whole instead of being single killed, which also means who ends up with the kills will mostly go to the heavy damage players and then to whomever is getting support damage in (again Munky's cleric took 3rd in kills on his high assist team on a screen shot that was specifically chosen for display purposes here), if a team is being hit down you can rack up a lot of kills with well timed AoE casts.
I'm not sure how the other guys were geared, but Wrath is geared by a fiew cheap purples in the Ah, and pvp gear. Hes not 1 shotting anyone, ever. But hes a very good GF and knows how to play. Hes my cousin and we sit next to each other when playing. On this perticular match him and I were together 98% of the time, and our team followed us. If you look at the stats it was actually pretty close, for most of the match these guys were actually ahead of us, we came on top in the last 4 minutes or so.
Most of my matches go like this, my only reason for posting it. So many people on here crying about clerics, but theres nothing wrong with clerics.
In the past, over doing my best trying to convince people that clerics are definately a good class, i've gone over my gear, my stats, my rotations in pve, and pvp, i've done everything short of play the persons cleric for them. I am still on the same job, and wont be heading home for about a month so I wont be making any videos yet. But I am definately going to be making some the minute I get the chance.
Until then, you can find me most days ...for atleast the next week anyway till my job changes, on Mindflayer PvP'ing. Shoot me a tell and lets go do some pvp!
Barabus The Gray
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Mindflayer
Oh, I also play my cw quite often
Devlin The Wicked
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Mindflayer
At earlier levels people are too stupid to correctly pick targets, at higher levels they know to go after the cleric. If people would consistently mob GWF's the GWF's would be whining too.
It really, in a way, is saying that clerics have too much damage mitigation and healing abilities. If clerics are useless and weak, why would they all go after them first?
to rack up kills, most will go after those with low damage that are easy to kill first over taking on harder characters
A few cheap purples (70k below easy for the whole set) is all a GF needs to 1-2 shot people. Judging from his helm he's most likely in the optimum DPS gear (guessing he wears Armor of Insanity, Brutal Lizardfolk, Shield of the Crusher?). And if he isn't 1-2 shotting them then it's safe to say he's 3-4 shotting them? He's also probably running Knight's Challenge Cheese or if not, another variation of the Conqueror Build.
The screenie still doesn't prove anything though other than most of your matches, you have good and competent people covering you. Your build is great though. I've specced one of my clerics into it for PvE purposes, it's still not my style though, but it's the ONLY option a cleric has right now.
PVP: How to make your life less miserable as a Devoted Clerics -- Still in it's Unfinished Glory
Dragon
Everyone is after free kills and usually abandons point capping instead chasing someone on low hp all across the map. And cleric is seen same as someone on low hp even when full hp. GF sees cleric as a soccer ball all he needs to do is a 3 skill combo and he scores a goal with nothing cleric is able to do to defend against it.
Cleric can still do ok in pvp lots of times with requirement that his team is OP or enemy team sucks.
I think opening poster was just unlucky in a few matches getting strong enemy/weak allies. Sometimes I can score 1st position in pvp two times in row and rack up lots of kills with healing build still other times all I get is perma stuned and 1-2 hitted non stop so it's all up to the luck of who queue gives you.
Totally BS, you must have no experience in any other mmo, a total **** lel
Ok, care to provide examples of PvP games where "gank teh healer" isn't the general order of busines?
DaoC, WoW, GW, GW2 obviously, every MMO with decent PVP design ...
Thought that was a list of games that shouldn't have PvP. My bad.
Yeah sure NW PVP is way much better
hahahhahah oh my god you honestly think guild wars wasn't "gank the healer?"
Well that's really something.
Guild wars 2 doesn't HAVE a dedicated heal class, it's primarily self-heals based (avoiding the "gank the healer" mindset was one reason they made this decision).
haven't played Wow of DaoC, so can't comment on those, admittedly. But your list is not looking good so far.
OMG xD typical casual answer, I bet you didnt get out of RA son, if you played seriously GW and you still think this, you must not have any champ rank LOL
What you can read on RA Chat : "Focus the monk if they have one HUEHUEHUE" (sounds famillar ?
What you see in top10 GvG match : Well timed discharges on any exposed ennemies or them who commited a mistake (punishing bad positionning, overextending from frontline, bad def CD management ..)
In brief, I don't know why i waste my time with you, you obviously don't know anything about PVP lel :rolleyes:
All you do on these forums is ridicule others for being bad Clerics and bragging about how uber you are in PvP.
BTW that screenshot proves nothing other than showing you attached to your Guardian buddy's nuts all game, acting as his heal bot, while he 2 shots everyone. Why don't you post a video of you PvP'ing in a 20v20 game without following a friend around 24/7? It's easy stomping on n00bs in 5 man PvP especially if you have a GF peeling enemies off of you. Oh, and 13-7 isn't something to brag about either. It's only a decent K/D.