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nimbusloki
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Ok .... so with the recent fixes we can clearly see that cryptic making money from zen is more important then fixing the classes they have broken (ie. more important then the players) ... to put an almost 1 gig patch through without fixing any of the broken classes in the game is quite simply disgusting.
The new GG content is broken is quite frankly one of the worst pieces of content I have ever seen in any MMO and quite frankly a huge waste of time as the rewards are less then sub par.
End game in this game is the Auction house ... The end game content is to trashy and the bosses unimaginative ... Crypics answer for difficulty seems to be "add more mobs to the boss fight" rather then thinking of some really good/tricky mechanics.
CN end bosses drop 1 item .... so 5 people spend like 45 mins in mind numbing trash filled mob swarming instances to come out of it with maybe 1 item ... or nothing (you don't even make gold raiding in this game 1-7 copper per drop).
I would love for someone to explain to me what end game guilds are meant to do in this game besides play the same 2 pvp maps over and over again and farm the auction house and run the same CN instance over and over and over again, because no one I know will ever be queuing for GG ever again (it truly is the worst content I have ever seen patched into an MMO and the rewards in no way make up for the time spent).
you should consider either fixing the classes properly or putting in some new content with some new rewards ... as the game is getting stale really quickly for fully geared end game guilds.
ps. you need to fix people leaving pvp im am sick of full teams leaving after they get crushed for the first 2 minutes and us having to sit around for 8 minutes to even get glory ... which is 90% of the PVP games our guild plays. ...
The new GG content is broken is quite frankly one of the worst pieces of content I have ever seen in any MMO and quite frankly a huge waste of time as the rewards are less then sub par.
End game in this game is the Auction house ... The end game content is to trashy and the bosses unimaginative ... Crypics answer for difficulty seems to be "add more mobs to the boss fight" rather then thinking of some really good/tricky mechanics.
CN end bosses drop 1 item .... so 5 people spend like 45 mins in mind numbing trash filled mob swarming instances to come out of it with maybe 1 item ... or nothing (you don't even make gold raiding in this game 1-7 copper per drop).
I would love for someone to explain to me what end game guilds are meant to do in this game besides play the same 2 pvp maps over and over again and farm the auction house and run the same CN instance over and over and over again, because no one I know will ever be queuing for GG ever again (it truly is the worst content I have ever seen patched into an MMO and the rewards in no way make up for the time spent).
you should consider either fixing the classes properly or putting in some new content with some new rewards ... as the game is getting stale really quickly for fully geared end game guilds.
ps. you need to fix people leaving pvp im am sick of full teams leaving after they get crushed for the first 2 minutes and us having to sit around for 8 minutes to even get glory ... which is 90% of the PVP games our guild plays. ...
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But I can completely understand for those that want more multiplayer/dungeon/PvP etc. end content, how it's kinda lacking at the moment...from what I read and what some friends say ... and who knows if or when such might be added.
Quite the self-centered individual aren't ya?
GG rewards are worth it for 2 types of people:
1. People that actually want the set bonus, for their build. As an example here, the rogue set suits perm stealth TRs fantastically.
2. People that didn't grind out t2/CN. Yes, I know you may find this hard to believe, but some people do not have CN weapons/off hand to this day!
I"m fairly certain that class fixes are pretty high on teh priority list now that the dungeons you exploited to do 45 min CN runs are supposedly fixed. Perhaps if the community didn't adopt the norm of exploiting content to the fullest extent, class fixes would have been a higher priority. You complain about no end game, when really a big part of lack of content in the end game was how easy it is to acquire the end game gear by exploiting or simply visiting the AH to acquire your gear from the massive supply caused by 20 min spider runs, 45 min CN runs etc.
I dont really see how the patch really shows that Cryptic is more concerned about selling Zen than the health of the game, but I will agree to disagree with you on this one.
As far as people leaving pvp, a simple solution to people leaving matches when a premade is pub stomping woudl be to give the option to concede the match. People are leaving because it's extremely boring to play a premade since the fights are so lopsided.
a 45 min CN run is the proper way ... not exploiting ... if you take longer then that ... Im sorry you're just bad
I have 4 level 60's and I'm working on my 5th and last atm. I don't do dungeons, I level up with questing (which I enjoy) and do pvp (which I also enjoy when it is working - ala no bots and no leavers). I re-roll a new class because there is ZERO end game content outside of the same dungeons over and over again.
So...while I wouldn't make any predictions about the player base (as I simply do not have sufficient knowledge about the matter) leaving, as a supporter of this game (played for 2-3 months and spent $100 or so on it)...I'm now at a point where there's just nothing to do. As far as I'm concerned...I've "beaten" NW. I've never played an MMO where I've felt that way...it's odd. I'll chalk it up to it being new and still in development...and it does have potential (else I'd not have spent as much money as I have on it), and I'll check out the expansion when it arrives...but it is indeed, in dire need of serious design and content help.
For many of us however, there's just not much to do until the expansions...which is why some of us (or at least I) will leave soon and perhaps check out the expansion(s) when they are released (assuming nothing else has grabbed my attention by then).
But I think this is a bad design. You don't want players taking leaves of absence like that IMO...it allows them to wander off and find other games of interest that soak up revenue that you, as a designer...should want in your pocket.
Leveling a toon from 1-60 takes NO time at all in NW. The casual gamer can do it in 1-2 weeks, max. And once there...then what? The epic dungeons? Sure, I guess...but then you'll be finally faced with the problems that everyone else is complaining about. PVP? I guess...but then just do it for fun because there's nothing to use glory for after you get your pvp set.
It just drops off after 60 (for me at least...mileage may vary).
As you say, there isn't much to do now endgame. That combined with the game being so quick... and linear... to level through will likely cause some players to leave. They would do well to not only lengthen but broaden the experiences the game has to offer if they wish to maintain the appeal of it for the long haul.
So if someone is joking around with friends during the run and doesn't speed pull and throw mobs off edges they are bad? If they don't use the exploits to kill the bosses and actually fights them they are bad?
Again you are just showing just how self absorbed you are and trying to show off an epeen in a non competitive MMO. So sad for you
To answer your question:
It's pretty clear that is not what he saying at all. He's saying "You're just bad" if you can't do it in 45 min legitimately.
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I found GG to be a ton of fun. More fun than Pirate King. I haven't played CN - and don't really want to deal with elite players to get there.
I'd much rather gear up from GG.
If you don't like GG, don't play it. No one is forcing you to play stuff you don't like.
All we have actually ever received from PW was a 'free' respec token, which was the least they could do at the time, BUT what actual use is it ? i know i have not used mine, tbh it seems totally pointless, when most classes have multiple feats that dont work as intended, or even dont work at all, even most 4 set tier bonuses dont work, so how the hell you supposed to even think about a respec when half your classes ability's are broke or dont work as intended lol
My point is i see most people here are wanting more content, but imo, in reality that is just asking for more bugs, surly the biggest step forward PW can do is fix what is already out there live first before even thinking about introducing even more content, with its no doubt inevitable huge batch of even more bugs and broken stuff
Everytime there is patch to introduce something new or change something it brings with it even more broken content and bugs.
I loved this game in beta, it had so much potential to be a great game, but in all honesty since live launch it as just gone from bad to worse and getting worse each day and patch that passes, imo most people are leaving daily because the game is getting more broken every day.
i understand the comments about the exploits and i agree, but whos fault is it they got exploited so much, why was'nt hings fixed asap, or even looked into, i'm sorry but the way i see it, PW had a great game on there hands in beta which could have gone a long way, but they are actualy ruining it themselves. it is not the players fault, most people play the game for different reasons, and if some want to try and find 'short cuts' then that will happen, but the developers should be looking for this and using it to make the game better, BUT no they just let everybody just get on with it , without a care in the world, and now its all coming to a head and people are leaving, which to me , is there fault, and a shame as they are spoiling what could have been a great game
Agreed. NW has just 1 area for window of leveling. It's the same old stuff, over and over again when leveling...and it's only one area. Games like WoW and GW2 on the other hand, have multiple areas that players can choose to level at the level windows (1-10, 11-16, 17-22, etc...)...which adds a lot of variety and quite a bit of replay value for those who enjoy multi-tooning.
NW...just doesn't. The only thing I am really starting to dislike is the level design in each area. It's very linear, as you said. There is no open world leveling like WoW or GW2...it's all done through very narrow passages. You may be outside, but you are incredibly restricted in where you can go. This is the first MMO that I've played that I've felt so restricted. I hope this changes in the future, but because it's so rampant in NW, I'm skeptical that it will...it seems to be a part of the design philosophy.
You are trying really hard here, when there is no need to.
more so those who paid out for the 'exclusive' pre live launch founders pack, not exacly cheap, and even more so you can still buy it !! after launch, but now its name as changed and you dont get the 'founder' tittle gee wizz, but all the pack contents are exactly the same
Nice job PWE and realy 'exclusive' lol , it would'nt suprise me if that does not come close to breaking some trading standards laws somewere along the line. and i feel very sorry for every person who paid out for it
i logged this morning to farm a few skill nodes ( for my own use) and do my proffs, off i went, for 15 mins, went back to vendor to empty my now full bags of trash drop rubish only to find the vendors window was blank, lol, and i could not escape, move, log from game, so yet again another ctrl+alt+del just to exit the game , and have not been back since, thers just no point can not do anything anyways. This is from somone who used to play for 2 to 4 hours + everyday, now it seems its all done and over, sad times, could have been a great game
Same old silliness.
The game is dying just watch people leave now!!!!
Annnnnddd now
Annnddd.... Now!
This time for realz...now!!
You have it all wrong Mr Positivity! The bots and gold sellers are still here. :P
Show me the population of Neverwinter and Ill show you at minimum 70% bots and "single user - multiple accounts"
That poster will not bother to answer. Just go ahead and post about the afk-pvp TRs standing at Blacklake campfire or the guilds filled with only lvl 60 TRs farming one particular instance. I DARE YOU!
Despite the Threads title,you bring up some valid points.
To make this thread more attractive to read,rather than a look at the title and move on occasion,I would suggest changing the title to something more appropriate.
Most if not all your points have been covered in previous threads and some have had replys from devs or reps.I would suggest doing a search on the topics.
None the less,I wish you luck with getting replys on the subjects you covered,from people who matter.