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Dungeons should be tuned down
bcvapor
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I know people will jump all over me for this but that is my opinion.
The dungeons are too hard for the casual players and the PuG scene is a mess. Combined with the errors currently in game, like leader who can kick, etc have made dungeons an unfriendly and unpleasant chore with PuGs.
So fix the things that need it, but tune the dungeons down to mitigate the combination of recent nerfs and plain difficult dungeons. Nerf dungeons.
Also, make delves permanent, no one likes to pay full price for drinks while waiting for happy hour.
The dungeons are too hard for the casual players and the PuG scene is a mess. Combined with the errors currently in game, like leader who can kick, etc have made dungeons an unfriendly and unpleasant chore with PuGs.
So fix the things that need it, but tune the dungeons down to mitigate the combination of recent nerfs and plain difficult dungeons. Nerf dungeons.
Also, make delves permanent, no one likes to pay full price for drinks while waiting for happy hour.
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The T2 gear is already overflowing the market , do you really want them to tone down the T2 content so next time you get like let's say a Timeless Helmet it'll be worthless to even think of selling on the AH thus HAMSTER the economy of the game further more ( which is already broken mind you ) ?
Mind you a slight leap in the wrong direction be it content /gear wise or skill balance ( look at what happened to the Devoited Cleric population after the last patch lol ) right now might ruin this game forever to the point of no return , do you really want that to happen ?
The game is already ruined everyday, as most of the game is group play in dungeons (at cap). Most of you who PuG must be aware of how terrible it is right now particularly with leavers and such. You can penalize the hell out of every behavior you don't like, or asses and attack the cause of the problem. I believe dungeons should be re-tuned since the patch, and adds removed for the most part.
I find pugs exciting. I just did an epic mad dragon where 1 dps was in a mix of greens and blues.
Game doesn't need easier dungeons. It needs the ability to add players mid dungeon.
ie. I love seeing TR's stand in the red circles and not even have Impossible to catch up. This is usually followed by "Why didnt you heal me".
That said they could have the same effect with other effects than just spawn more adds.
Try explaining the aboleth overseer in broken Spanish sometime...
T1 instances can be done without any class requirement. I remember ending everything before t2 except mad dragon, in 3 or 4 because people left or dcd. The reality check came from T2 where there ARE class requirements (1 control, 1 healer at least) and after aggro changes some fight kind of requires a tank. Anyway every group also "requires" a TR, but most people forget about that.
They are in some dungeons. But that's all they're doing, stopping us from knocking them off ledges. So it'll just take that much longer to complete dungeons that are already monotonous and boring.
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They're too hard compare to the Gear Score required and some bosses have way too much adds.
It's just a matter of fact, just check how much GS people are asking for Spider or other T2... it's not only because they want to rush, I'm in a guild and several told me that most T2 are impossible to do with a basic T1 set.
All T2 should be doable with just a basic T1 set as long as you have the minimum GS required by the tier.
As it's not the case, then it means that there is a problem of design.
All those who say the opposite are just overgeared people who want to keep the T2 as elitist as they are right now.
I'm 100% sure that they'll never accept to do any of them with a group of 5 members with just a T1 tier set and not using any exploit.
Dungeons are meant to be hard. That's the idea of a good challenge!
Haha I find knocking adds off ledges exciting.
I was having problem with clearing the last quest of skyhold area solo. I end up knocking them off with ice storm and shield. A friend using wizard ask me for help in the same quest while he is leveling as well. He told me he never had problem with that boss as a rouge but he has problem when using wizard. Told him to knock them off and sacrifice the boss item drop.
Anyway jokes aside. Dungeon shld be more innovative instead of boss and a tones of adds.
Maybe design something that needs coordination between players. Then people would start using he inbuilt voice system. I think I find the quest/dungeons in DDO more interesting.
Please guys, make the dungeons a bit more simple.. less adds or any thing else you can think of please..
And you guys all saying yes without thnking are extremely inconsiderate of those of us who enjoy a challenge.
For me and most of my guild, if theres no challenges, theres no fun. If the devs ruin the dungeons and remove the challenge, they will lose us and a huge chunk of the player base.
So instead of being so callous and saying "Oh memememe make it so I can do it"
Why not:
Please developers, could you add a lower difficulty setting to the dungeons so that me and my non-hardcore friends could enjoy them too, while the players that enjoy the current difficulty could retain that choice?
Many other mmos offer difficulty settings and they work quite well to help make the game appeal to players of multiple skill levels.
Could have rename the current epics to legendary, and create a new easier epic mode, allowing you to select which ever you like when you click on the dungeons door (or the dreaded queue system).
And yea put a higher GS req on the legendaries, cuz realistic atm doing say spider with 8300gs chars is essentially near-impossible for any but the best of the best (who never have such low GS's).
Spider, CN and Epic dread vault should all require 10k, if not 10.5k.
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Karrundax is way too easy. That dungeon is easier then most of the t1 epics.
It's not a matter of elitism. It's the positive feeling that comes from overcoming a challenge. There is already a mechanic in place who just want the gear for minimal work. It's called the Auction House.
Putting a GS on dungeons that would require you to have gear from those same places before you zone in for the first time is just a little stupid.
Will you then push for gear being tiered too if this was implemented, like in DDO, Shade? Seeing as people were not doing the higher difficulty unless they had a "reason" too.
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Everyone on the boss with the GF tanking him.
You have to focus because he does alot of aoe/cone attacks.
Then if the boss had adds.
The GWF and CW stop dpssing the boss and take care off the adds.
At this the time the boss is slightly easyer to avoid.
Adds down: everyone on boss again.
With the boss doing his cone/aoe attacks faster then before.
The massive add spawn has its charm but not for every fight...
WTB Nightmare mode, We need dungeons to be about 30% - 40% harder
That will be tier 3 probably.
But i hope its not mass adds for every boss again.