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"Neverwinter is a true Dungeons & Dragons experience" Really?
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"Neverwinter is a true Dungeons & Dragons experience, brought to life with the dynamic Cryptic game engine." Really?
I playing this RPG since it was AD&D, I played Baldur's Gate, Pool of Radiance and even Neverwinter Nights, and I must say I expected more loyalty to D&D. Why Guardian Fighter and Great Weapon Fighter? In D&D there is only one class "Fighter". We will have two Rangers too? Or two Druids?
In my view this was a big mistake, because in addition to limiting the gameplay, distorted a basic concept of D&D. Sad...
I playing this RPG since it was AD&D, I played Baldur's Gate, Pool of Radiance and even Neverwinter Nights, and I must say I expected more loyalty to D&D. Why Guardian Fighter and Great Weapon Fighter? In D&D there is only one class "Fighter". We will have two Rangers too? Or two Druids?
In my view this was a big mistake, because in addition to limiting the gameplay, distorted a basic concept of D&D. Sad...
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Although 'luckily' there is a ZEN Store item that can......
I'd be happy if clerics could heal.
Using 4e rules I believe you don't play "JUST" fighter... you have to choose one of the paths? (I've only just started looking into 4th Edition, so I may not have the new terms down...)
Edit - I guess if this was PnP 4e, you could play "Fighter" and pick and choose. Since this isn't PnP, they elected to used the Optional Builds instead...
4e clerics can't raise dead until Epic levels, and then it's a 4 hour ritual.
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4e blows which is why it is already being ditched by WoTc.
Well, NW is based on 4e... Whenever the next "D&D" MMO comes out, it'll be based on whatever is "current". (Which half the ppl will probably think sucks etc...)
Since I moved away from my core group, and aren't a social person, I never made the transition from 3e to 4e... Never really had a reason. It's just since I started playing NW that I started even looking into it.
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To be fair, I'd say 4e is quite a bit more accessible, what with the Internet being around and all...
And it's less of a stigma for people to be found playing D&D or other RPGs... Back in high school ('90s), there were closet D&D players... -_-
You know how hard it is to find someone to play with when they're all afraid of being ostracized by their friends for playing? LOL
I will definitely be taking a look into that...
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because they made online tools for 4th ed, and an online tabletop, made it easier to play without having to get together physically. Thanks to internet you can play with a group from all over the world.
I am sure that the MMO generation of RPG players is a big potential market for a pen&paper WoW clone but why they had to (ab)use the D&D franchise for this, is completely beyond me.
Wait.....what if WoTC created 4e ONLY for the reason to have a dumbed-down ruleset, that can be transfered more or less 1:1 to an MMO? No.....uhm, thats absurd....has to be!
Really? Truly? This is the best the MMO industry can do with the Neverwinter IP? Are there any Dungeons and Dragons fans out there who feel insulted by this game? It takes every great idea that you might expect from Dungeons and Dragons, and does the complete opposite. Immersion, complex systems, meaningful and significant choices... none of it exists in Neverwinter.
Dungeons and Dragons is about organizing a group of friends, exploring a vast world of adventure and mystery, immersing yourself in a unique story that grows with your characters and unfolds over time. Neverwinter isn't Dungeons and Dragons... Neverwinter is what Dungeons and Dragons would be if it was turned into an amusement park for children.
As a game for cheap thrills and short spouts of meaningless entertainment, Neverwinter works. But tying the names "Dungeons and Dragons" and "Neverwinter" to this shallow title is an insult to fans across the globe. I feel anger for the developers and publishers who bastardize a great IP by turning it into a joke like this. Neverwinter will never be the same, it is forever scarred by insignificance and mediocrity.
All of that aside, lets not forget the music. I played Champions Online on day one, and in beta. I became very familiar with the music in that title. When Star Trek Online officially launched, I found it odd that Cryptic would recycle the music from CO and use it in STO. But I forgave them, because the music was slightly relevant in a science fiction setting. But then, to my horrible and bewildered surprise... I heard that same recycled music in Neverwinter! WHAT!!?!?! Why am I hearing guitar riffs in a dungeon in a fantasy game?! Seriously guys! This was the last straw for me. I have lost respect for Cryptic. They are a lazy studio, they skimp at every corner, emphasizing systems which maximize profits while maintaining minimal effort to produce a mediocre product. Yes yes, it's in the best interest of any company to maximize profits. But there has to be a limit. Certain expectations need to be met. The vast majority of the world's consumers (in any market) are simply enchanted when they see shinies and hear fancy words like "action," "beta," "exclusive" and "innovative."
Games today aren't about gaming, they're about profiting. Neverwinter is a clear indication of this. It's further indication of the complete and unashamed contempt the developers and publishers feel for their customers. They have no respect for you, they only want your money. They will use every cheap trick in the book to get your money (exclusive VIP beta access anyone? By the way, it's non-refundable and under NDA so you can't tell anyone how disappointed you are with your purchase. Oh, and that buyer's remorse you're feeling? Forget about it! It'll pass... here, take some exclusive digital items which cost pennies for our programmers to HAMSTER into existence... trust me, you'll love it!).
The disappointment only increases the longer I think about this sham of a MMO. Let's not forget the latest trend of "action combat." Why? Why action combat? Why is it so amazing now? Do players really want action combat in a game like this? It was interesting in TERA.. then in GW2.. then RaiderZ.. and what others are doing it now? Cryptic didn't even do a good job implementing action combat! Admit it! Both GW2 and RaiderZ do it better. When I played GW2 after a weekend of Neverwinter, I couldn't help but think "Wow, this is what action combat is supposed to feel like. I can actually move while attacking! This is amazing!"
Then there's the Foundry... the one thing that Neverwinter might have done right, and it's the one thing I couldn't possibly care less about. Cryptic doesn't need to create content now, enabling them to be even more lazy than they were before. "Just let the players make the game, we'll charge them for it too." -- gigat
I've been trying for days to express how I feel about this title, but just could not put my thoughts into words. Then I read the above post and understood, "This is EXACTLY how I feel!"
If so, they're taking "games" far too seriously.
(And yes, I've played D&D since blue-book Basic.)
...oh, hey, for more classic digital D&D play, check out the PC & PS3 (maybe XBox?) demo for the re-release of those old D&D arcade games. Man, that brought back memories, we played that in the campus arcade all the time!
Someone needs to do the old SSI D&D games with updated graphics... that'd be amusing... (especially if still able to hex edit the save game to change your race to Tribble...)
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Sums it up. Prepare for onslaught of calvary wearing white robes. Nicely put too. Sharing this because I wont even bother to type it anymore.
I'm willing to give them time on this one...
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This. This is exactly how I feel about Neverwinter online. I think this also applies to gaming in general. Detail, customization, depth...these concepts are now gone forever, forgotten. Now it's the age of amusement park games with superficial entertainment.
yeah, its kinda messed up that you can buy a rez but a cleric cant rez you. If I leave, it will most likely be because its one thing to charge for convenience but to charge for something that defies the very nature of the world of DnD shows a really high level of greed
I think in the 4e of D&D you can buy resurrection scrolls for like 680 Gold... they could probably implement that...
(Clerics would have to perform a 4 hour ritual to resurrect you, and be above a level you can't get to yet to to use them without scrolls...)
In Forgotten Realms case I think they did it so they had a "good" reason to adapt to 4e rules LOL. -_-
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the obvious limitation they face is time and money.
play rift then play this game. the graphics and gameplay are on two separate worlds. what takes them a week in rift to create with those 1990's graphics probably takes them a month in neverwinter.
i realize this is nothing like the 2nd edition ad&d i played when i was a kid, but it is what it is. its a video game, it can be fun at times, and that is that.
People hate it because it's different, sounds dumb I know but each update to the rules has caused an outcry since AD&D.