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okaminosuke
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 155 Bounty Hunter
- I don't want to jump through walls
- I don't want to type /killme
- I don't want to run through mobs to die at certain point or mob
- I don't want to suicide bosses
- I don't want to exploit broken mechanics even for my economical advantage
Yet, EVERYONE now does it. Getting into a group of legit players to do a dungeon together is close to impossible.
Last CN boss dropping BiS stuff can be farmed 2 times per hour and this haven't been fixed yet!
Numbers:
500 +/- guildmates
three weeks ago: 100 +/- online same time
since last week: 10-15 +/- online same time (most of them being fresh lvl 60s haven't experienced broken end-game yet, older players are gone)
What have we got? 1.5 GB patch with future content. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
(I'm not into creating ranting/whining threads but you Cryptic guys had it coming. Either you don't care or you are just unable to fix your own game. You need a month to fix an invisible hole in the wall? I have never seen any content so broken as this game)
- I don't want to type /killme
- I don't want to run through mobs to die at certain point or mob
- I don't want to suicide bosses
- I don't want to exploit broken mechanics even for my economical advantage
Yet, EVERYONE now does it. Getting into a group of legit players to do a dungeon together is close to impossible.
Last CN boss dropping BiS stuff can be farmed 2 times per hour and this haven't been fixed yet!
Numbers:
500 +/- guildmates
three weeks ago: 100 +/- online same time
since last week: 10-15 +/- online same time (most of them being fresh lvl 60s haven't experienced broken end-game yet, older players are gone)
What have we got? 1.5 GB patch with future content. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
(I'm not into creating ranting/whining threads but you Cryptic guys had it coming. Either you don't care or you are just unable to fix your own game. You need a month to fix an invisible hole in the wall? I have never seen any content so broken as this game)
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If you'd like, you're more than welcome to join my guild if you're on Dragon..... I'm the GL, and we're all pretty tired of the exploitation as well, our own groups don't use them.
Then you're wasting your time. It takes 0 skills to complete the instance without exploiting. It only takes more time which is going to take even more time after the nerfs. Why do people exploit? Because they don't fix it and because that's all there is to do.
The problem with the world today is everyone's in a hurry, well guess what, you in my group, you slow the hell down and do it right or i kick you.
They should do this with every dungeon.
If you'd bother to read the "balance changes" blog on the front page of the site, you'd see these things are getting fixed in the gauntlegrym update...... until then, people who are using these exploits are not at all playing the game the way it was intended..... do you see a **** achievment for exploiting your way through a dungeon? No? Gee I wonder why. People who use such exploits are just lazy useless sots, and people that I generally do not care to play with.
/agreed.
It's same with me as a Tank: if someone insists to pull, he can tank, I'll stand next to him and watch him die gladly. If someone exploits: you can use the shortcut, but I will not go with you, so you're either alone or I'm alone and wait til you come back or leave the group.
We as guild even have a rule against this: Don't play with idiots.
I've used exploits, I commit. It might be time wasting to do the dungeons correct. But it's so much more of a good feeling to:
- manage to control and kill all the adds
- to take the long way
- to agree that your healer gets knocked down, pushed away or whatever because he's not standing at a safe spot
but...
...there has never been a game created that can't be cheated, and yet there are people who play these games all of the time without cheating.
Perhaps, "because I can," is not the best reason to do something. Every single person cheating in a game, acting on the principle of, "because I can," is dependent on others, in their real life, not taking the same attitude. Hypocrisy at its best.
'Caine, miss you bud. Fly high.
I will enjoy the game just fine with you not playing it thankyou, I will enjoy the game with you playing it, couldn't care less either way, but if you play with me, you'll play right.
mmo games tend to get a lot of people with low self esteem who think their video game accomplishments actually mean anything in the real world. they usually tend to be a bit aggressive and emotionally unstable. it is what it is.
like the guy calling people casuals like being able to play video games all day and night is some type of life accomplishment.
personally i like to take my time and enjoy a game. if i want to impress someone ill break out some physics problems that will give you headaches to solve, lol.
Those threads are closed because they're destructive, end up in spam and trollery and never come up with any usefull feedback. Good Feedback is not "Mommyyyyy? The other kids are stupid little brats I dont wanna play with them." It's more like "Hey Mom, look. There are these kids that took my favorite toy away from me and now I don't feel like playing with them anymore. I'd like to see that changed, we could for example convince them that stealing another childs toy is not nice."
What do you suppose the Community Team can do about these exploits?
Worse still, the many exploiters are actually proud of their abuse and consider themselves superior to honest players, rather then the scum they are.
Those little of us left have no choice but to join in on this exploiting, as it's nigh impossible to find a party willing to play legit.
Honestly, a temporary ban for all those who are abusing broken dungeon design is in order imo.
Cool story bro !
How about you put a party together that want to exploit content first and then everyones happy.You don't need to play with *white knights* and they don't need to play with you.
Nolife hardcore detected
These are the type of people who cry on the form when they get the ban hammer.
lol
Speaking loudly about things that need to be done, or should have been done, is the only thing community can do. This is not a thread about some minor annoyances in the game. This thread is about new game being already BROKEN, last words of desperate player who actually enjoyed the game when it wasn't exploited by almost whole population.
The queue is poor.
Regardless,put together your own group,this way you are assured of getting like minded players join and likely the classes you prefer as well.
legit players should be doing this too.
If I feel like doing fast runs I'll pug,when with friends however we take our time and social.
Stupid cruddy mechanics in this game and game design. Oh and using your environment to kill mobs such as knocking them off ledges or using traps is a legit way to deal with monsters. If you don't like doing it, then don't. If the developers don't want to allow knocking stuff off ledges they can remove the knockback mechanic from the game or they can do what they did for the 3rd boss of castle never. They put invisible walls around all the ledge there and you can't knock anything off.
Sidenote, I haven't nor will I use some fall through the world bug. I have been screwed though in CN as a TR. I was doing duelist furry when the cleric in my group used flamestrike. I ended up somehow on top of the map. That was annoying. Still, it's one thing to run through an area and train a bunch of monsters to make it to the next safe point. There is always the chance you die before doing so and don't make it.
I for one wil enjoy the crywave after the patch hits, and the ocasional ban thread on the forums "i was banned for no reason q.q"
Enjoy the content, ore how about stop playing if u dont?
I really hope something is done soon or I will be bowing out of Neverwinter very soon
They are not banning regulars who do this, but people who do nothing else then speedruns and are advertising it.
With that said, who cares play how u want, but i for one like to play a game for the fun of gaming, not to look at it like a job "must make money, more money, MOAR I TELL U, at all cost!!"
I highly doubt these speedrunners wil stil be here in 6 months time, they get fat/bored and quit and hop to the next game. Ore they get banned, go on a forum tantrum and be gone.
Sorry, just for my understanding: what's hardcore about taking the easiest cheesiest route and what's casual about figuratively wanting to fight uphill through snow both ways?
To be fair, after respeccing my tank and trying him out on the test server we've been playing with broken characters(much like you'd expect from a beta) so hopefully a lot of the frustration will vanish after the 20th. Tanks that can hold aggro and actually take a hit should help out quite a bit. Still unsure about the cleric's shield, but we'll see.
Crippled? On life support? Drama queen?
I play on Mindflayer. The population has not dropped one bit. If you haven't noticed the bans come in waves. It seems as though Cryptic does some investigating,gathers a list and then BAM!! Buh bye cheaters. They go all at once. Three days later no one notices or even remembers they played. Now having said that. Running a dungeon fast is fine. Avoiding pulls that are unnecessary should be encouraged and is smart play. Avoiding pulls that when you kill one thing it spawns 4 much larger meaner things is also smart play. Using glitches through walls,rocks,terrain, jumping in holes to skip parts of dungeons is flat out cheating and people should and are banned for it.
it s not cleverness or anything, it s cowardice ! fight the **** mobs
YAWP !
/barbarian mode off