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zarchos
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The time is now reduced by at least 3 seconds. It's really just terrible now... Why did you push this nerf this far? The **** stacking was the issue, not the duration? This is terrible
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I'm sick of that overpowered ability and I wish they would just delete it entirely and rebalance from there lol.
Be thankful now, cry later when you realize your Cleric can't keep you alive anymore.
Pretty much that. Other than in pvp no sure why people want to nerf clerics so much. I have a level 60 and I messed about with it some on the test shard and overall I wasn't that impressed with these changes. Not saying I'd ditch the cleric outright at this point since it will take time, and some respec tokens which hopefully Cryptic will throw us a bone and grant a bunch of these on the test server, but my initial impression is I'd more than likely go back to one of my other characters. So yeah when everyone is sitting in the queue for hours waiting on clerics just remember you got what you wanted.
Thank you SO much for "destroying" Astral Shield!
You really do care.
Cleric heals as it stands in test is plenty to keep a tank alive. If their dying its because they are some crappy DPS spec. Best put on more defense brah!
Character is what a man is in the dark
I would like to know this as well??? I heard that it hurts allies abilities when used.
We knew the stacking would be fixed. Which was fine. The cooldown change wasn't necessary.
As I said not crying about it too much. I'll actually give a few dungeon runs a few tries and see how it pans out. If I don't like it I'll just play another class that's OK with me.
Depends on the situation but most times probably not. However as someone in another thread mentioned this actually encourages groups to have two clerics since they can alternate casting Astral Shield and maintain 100% uptime on it. When I tested it I had a 6 second gap while waiting on cooldown. That seems a long time but I haven't done any real world tests so I'm withholding final judgement for now.
yes, you never know who needs healing or some dmg mitigation, + we dont really have good insta-heals.
I dont mind them not stacking, sure thats ok, but the cd T_T, its not like AShield was godly, you can always CC and push the healer in it (in pvp) or a lot of critters with knockbacks in pve.
The healer cant always kite specially when casting, casting animation for most skills are sloooooooowww.
If our other buffs and debuffs lasted longer and/or functioned properly, then maybe the AS nerf is ok.
I just wish they fixed the other bugs first than nerf, its not like you can always find a CW who knows how to chain cc mobs or (i've only seen 4) loves to use black hole (coz most of them use ice hammer for last hitting in pvp).
Why nerf the support class now and making it more difficult for the group i think its too soon for a nerf when the other spells and feats are still buggy, oh include the armor sets.
Someone saying get gwfs ... sure....... as if it was that easy, next is find a really good gwf that can manage trash mobs well.
I really think this nerf came too soon.
Reasons:
1) Astral shield won't stack, but uptime is no longer 100%. Two clerics means 100% uptime on Astral Shield.
2) Two clerics means 100% uptime on Divine Armor or Hallowed Ground. With nerfed Astral Shield stacking, this will become even more important.
3) Two clerics means they can cross-heal each other, negating the 40% self-heal debuff.
Solutions so that a group only "needs" one cleric:
1) Give back 100% uptime on Astral Shield to one cleric.
2) Give clerics meaningful, activated heals that can actually save party members, as well as an activated sooth that gives them breathing room from aggro (i.e. fade from WoW).
3) Change Righteousness. Make it a toggle -- either 40% healing reduction or 40% damage dealt reduction. Good for groups and good for soloing -- just have to decide what "mode" to be in. That way in groups clerics won't be able to kill much, but they will be able to stay alive longer.
Yes, it's obvious they balanced the game around it.
2) More active skills is definitely not the answer. There are only three spaces for encounters and I do not want this. Better healing would be nice though.
3) So it takes them forever to solo in pve? No thanks.
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the change to cleanse is mind boggling, as it should now be changed to a 1/1 skill rather than a 1/3. As no one in their right mind would take 3/3, it was already pretty rare for people to take 3/3.
Because keeping the "tank" alive is so relevant in PvP.
just beause you can do it doesnt mean everybody can. when you reach lvl60 you barely hit the minimum to enter a dg how will that ppl be able to properly heal and do the dg? i did cn earlier in the test server and although it went slower we managed it but we are a 12k premade pt that know exactly what we are doing how do you suggest you do this w pug. is not like they know ok as going down use this use that cordinate this cordinate that you just cant consider everything in the better conditions gotta consider it in a somewhat midle to good condition and balance from there.
not to talk about pvp you pretty much use as then dots or *****Y aoe spells
2) None of the encounter powers aside from astral shield provide meaningful healing. More meaningful skills would be more fun.
3) Make it a toggle -- either 40% healing reduction or 40% damage dealt reduction. Good for groups and good for soloing -- just have to decide what "mode" to be in.
Agree with this. So much.
Not having Astral Shield 24/7 is a good thing but they really need to buff the other healing skills for DCs eg. Bastion of Health and Healing Word. BoH for where it is in the Power tree should be more poweful as we do not have a huge single target heal. HW is a DoT heal that you can only land on your intended target if there are no mobs between you and the recipient or if you're extremely good at moving around and targeting your teammates avatar.
Revive sickness not being able to be cleansed might be a good thing but it just makes the Cleanse feat useless at 3/3. Definitely not a worthy feat for where it is on the Feat tree.
It would also be nice if you can fix all the broken tier set bonuses on gear especially Miracle Healer for DC.
P/S: Have any DCs checked out whether Recovery affects AS cooldown? My DC haven't been ported over yet.
Actualy you are the only ridicolus one, really if you don't understand how a cleric have to work to keep a party alive, then just don't post.
Let me tell you a thing: a cleric is not just the guy who fill you hp bar, usualy is the guy that take the most stress/insults/responsibility of failure while doing dungeons.
CN was perfectly doable with one cleric even on the main server, but have two just halves the stress and make the cleric player actualy breath between a casting and another, have a 20 second duration on AS perhaps was too much time (not even sure...) but the good thing was mainly the grace time between the casting, time spent to take a better look at the location and eventualy decide if is better move and mark another place with the AS.
Halving it make things just more messed during a fight, with the cleric freneticaly watching the timer of skill cooldown.
Hell! let clerics breath a bit.
I play cleric as my main otherwise I wouldn't post. I also have a GF 60 and have run all T2/CN on the test server from both perspectives. Clerics work much less now to keep everyone alive as the GF controls most of the adds now. When AS isn't up sure tanks HP drops but you can't just stand a face tank like most parties have been doing with dual AS. Everyone has to work together now instead of rolling easy mode. Every single dungeon was WAY to easy prior to these changes. All that really needs to be done now is slight tweaks to the adds on boss fights.