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asashiro
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Limiting this to class specific doesn't really (or at least completely) solve the issue.
Greedy people will just roll need on their class gear to resell, and now have no competition.
Need should set gear to Bind on Acquire preventing greedy people from simply reselling it for profit.
Need is for upgrades not because you need AD, everyone does regardless of class.
Greedy people will just roll need on their class gear to resell, and now have no competition.
Need should set gear to Bind on Acquire preventing greedy people from simply reselling it for profit.
Need is for upgrades not because you need AD, everyone does regardless of class.
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If all are true - need
else Greed
What Class Are You?
And geared people should run T2s for what, charity?
Or maybe the now-useless Drake seals and the occasional DD chest loot?
Yeah, right, keep on dreamin'.
If you are the right class & need the item for the toon you can roll with anyone else that needs it or get it 100% if you are the only one that can use it.
The logic is to make your chance of getting your item higher not lower
& allowing everyone the chance if it is not an upgrade for you (or any other that could use it) to get it,
without making it BoP and therefore unsellable for AD
And as for the gearscore, maybe some real feedback to the Devs about it would help, so that they have a better idea of how the players see various items, so that the item being rolled on is judged effectively, but in general if the item is perceived as worse, you do not need it, do you?
Debate!
At no point did it say anyone should run any zone for nothing!
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Wish it were that easy.
How about:
Any of these could be used as a criterion for who really "needs" an item. It's all fallacious; it's a video game, no one "needs" anything. We're trying to argue that there's some clear and obvious greater good served by allocating an item to one person specifically, and that's a matter of human judgment based on people's values -- no automated rule of thumb can possibly do this fairly. Just give it up.
What it should be is individual loot that the individual can do anything you want with; equip, auction, sell, trash, whatever. Everyone contributes, everyone gets a reward. No one knows what another got, and there's none of this envy and greed fueled arguing over it.
Short of that, I approve of the current fix -- it will halt -most- of the in-game loot bickering, and that's a big win.
Some of the suggestions to tweak it will have negative consequences, i.e.
1. "Does not have a better item" - You don't want to incentivize players to wear worse gear in order to get loot. "Better" can also be hard for the game AI to determine (i.e. completing a T1 set can be better than a partial T2, and for some builds and situations the T1 sets are preferred). Some players may also want loot for cosmetic reasons.
2. "Bind on acquire" - will make it more difficult to fill queues, as players with gear will have little incentive to run the content again, unless other incentives are added.
My preferred solution, however, would be to fix the delve chest. It should be a permanent feature. The event can be tweaked to add AD to the chest as a bonus. That makes the event fun, but not critical.
It's too confusing to a new player to start/finish a dungeon outside of the event window and be unable to open the chest, and it's too demotivating to start a dungeon during the event window but lose the chest to a crash or DC.
Another helpful feature would be to list the number of players waiting in a given queue (i.e. each queue would have a little number counter next to it), as well as enabling class bias options that leaders of partially filled groups can set for the queue (i.e. match with a specific class only).
Let's say I'm playing a CW, and am already fully geared t2 and CN wpn set. If I'm the only one in a group for a CN run and the cw wpn drops, guess who get's it? I can roll need, and there's nothing deterring me from doing so just to resell the weapon for myself.
How does this fix the ninja looting issue?
BoA on need would at least prevent the ninja from making a profit and teach him a lesson.
What is "a better item"? If I have gear that has offensive stats and "need" gear with defensive stats how are you going to determine which is "better"?