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deistik
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Great, make it based on character level. How about you give it a decent coefficient on our stats?
Seriously, on test shard:
Punishing Light: (BiS) Weapon only, ~1700 power: 552 - 649; full BiS gear, ~6000 power: 639 - 735
Soothing Light: (BiS) Weapon only, ~1700 power: 474 - 557; full BiS gear, ~6000 power: 548 - 631
If you're going to massively nerf Astral Shield's uptime, can we at least get a few buffs to compensate for it? If I'm going to waste a bunch of Divinity on a terrible HoT tick, can it at least be not-so-terrible? If I'm wearing the best gear in the game, our Divinity At-Wills should at least be worth looking at - your "fix" did nothing to make this so.
No cleric worth their salt would use these over a Divinity Encounter, and this is after you made them "good." Does anyone you have working for you play a cleric, at all? Both of these skills need some serious power coefficient adjustments.
Really? Righteousness affects one of our "core" abilities like Divine At-Wills? /golfclap
Seriously, on test shard:
Punishing Light: (BiS) Weapon only, ~1700 power: 552 - 649; full BiS gear, ~6000 power: 639 - 735
Soothing Light: (BiS) Weapon only, ~1700 power: 474 - 557; full BiS gear, ~6000 power: 548 - 631
If you're going to massively nerf Astral Shield's uptime, can we at least get a few buffs to compensate for it? If I'm going to waste a bunch of Divinity on a terrible HoT tick, can it at least be not-so-terrible? If I'm wearing the best gear in the game, our Divinity At-Wills should at least be worth looking at - your "fix" did nothing to make this so.
No cleric worth their salt would use these over a Divinity Encounter, and this is after you made them "good." Does anyone you have working for you play a cleric, at all? Both of these skills need some serious power coefficient adjustments.
Really? Righteousness affects one of our "core" abilities like Divine At-Wills? /golfclap
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Obviously you're supposed to invest in the feats to make them stronger! </sarcasm>
Feat: Divinity Mastery - Your Divinity At-Wills now are actually worth using Divinity on!
I'd spend 5 on that.
There are feats that boost healing from Soothing Light, IIRC.
Desperate Renewal sounds like it turns it into a pretty potent Oh <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> Heal.
When your friendly target has less than 25% Hit Points, increase the Healing of Soothing Light by 5/10/15/20/25%.
I feel like I'm a great healer, and so does everyone I group with, regardless of my attitude
Maybe if the divinity drain was minimal I could see using it... but a 20sec + channel to get someone back to close to full hp. We don't have 20 seconds of divinity to channel continually.
See that's the thing to test though does it auto go back to the old tick or does it stay on the current tick until you unclick and click again. If it stays on current Click as long as you have the button held down it'll be a powerful Tank topper offer if they get to low. If not then yeah it's meh.
Just a thought, of course. I don't have time to test it tonight but given how it actually works could make it a nice talent to pick trying to get to Power Of The Sun, to offer damage reduction.
No that feat is just very underwhelming.
A 25% boost at under 25% isn't much of anything unless it was affecting all of our healing.
It should at the very least be either 50% under 25% or vice versa.
I would be nice if Soothing Light actually CREATED divinity instead of spent it.
I agree with that, it would give is more reason to stay in Channel Divinity Longer, coming out to apply Astral Seal, and Sacred Flame or Brand Of The Sun.. making the playstyle more reactive.
If they gave our Divinity At-Wills a decent power coefficient, I could see getting 1k+ ticks with soothing light, with no feats to increase it. The power difference between those numbers in my OP is literally ~4500.
Same I'm trying to see if maybe stuff we over looked before because Astral Shield was so Powerful, may be worth taking a second look at. Who knows, we may discover some new combos. Plus we have to take into account the changes to other classes too. So many variables at the moment.. it's kind of exciting Nerfs aside and all.
Other than that, I suppose it's kind of meh. If the health threshold were a bit higher I could see it having a bit more practicality in PvE. Single target healing in general is kind of rough in PvE though. (Targeting is just a major pain.)
The coefficients on the ability would be fine if this was an at-will power that did not consume DP and was used in concert with the feat that allows you to build Divine Power from non damaging abilities allowing the cleric to run around in Divine Mode and using single target heals to build DP and do healing versus added damage....but as a consumer of DP it is absolutely horrific.
I currently use punishing light when all of my encounters are on cooldown and it does a respectable amount of extra damage. But I can only do that because of an apparently bugged feat that they've just "fixed."
If we're intended to use punishing/soothing light then the divinity/tick cost needs to decrease a lot. Maybe half of what it currently is?
whats the use if your target has like 20k hp then gets hit with 5k hp left at 25%, mob hits for 10-20k.
Lets say I use Divine armor, still using soothing light on 1 target is not worth it... I wish Soothing light becomes AOE, then maybe i would invite on feat pts on that.
Anyone know if Soothing Light healing crits can trigger Repurpose Soul?
It does. It's pretty easy to test, heals with green lightning bolts beside the numbers are crit heals, you can immediately see a smaller value heal (30-40ish) if you have Repurpose Soul.
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Last problem is simply the divinity cost.
going to agree with you on this lol.....100% of the time if you're that low and you don't use a pot that's off cd you're stubborn. Deistik you are far more legit that most of the people on here so no worries :0
What's the point of our terrible Divinity At-Wills, again?
I just got home from work did you play with that Feat to see if it kept the increase heal through an entire channel or if it defaulted back to normal after the health pool went over 25%. Just curious.
I mean I'm not sold on it being a great feat, I think if it keeps the increased heal it could be a nice tank topping heal once, they fix threat.. however as others have pointed out, the single target nature of it does make it lacklucter. However I just have this feeling in my stomach that eventually potions are going to get nerfed and have a much longer CD.. like other games eventual have done as well. So I'm more thinking further ahead than I need to with this feat. *shrug*
And yeah Righteousness is horrible for PvE Ihave no idea why they couldn't make it a PvP only debuff.
QFT.
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Running with the same spec I have on live currently.... because for some reason, on a TEST shard, you can't actually test anything unless you pay to respec. So, can't answer your question, sorry
Now... Soothing Light can crit for ~1500 on someone that's not me... so it could have very limited uses, just seems like there's better options to spend Divinity on.
Not only is it incredibly weak, but there are about 5 more important things you could be doing with your time, need to be doing with your time, than standing still channeling a weak ***, divinity draining single target heal. If it healed the whole group, then we can talk.
And post your feedback on this sort of thing. That's what it's there for.