A good OR logic trigger method.

zoiks100 · June 2013

Pretty much using a similar method to the timer method described here, you can create an OR logic trigger by using 1 encounter, 1 room, 2 patrol points, and X details (where X is the number of operands).

Here is the method:

Place a Cave or Royal Crypt room, which has a deadfall in it, near enough to the location you will need the OR logic that the player will never be further than 250' away.
Place a number of small platforms, I like "platform woodscaffolding 10x10", in a line over the deadfall.
Place any single mob encounter on the line of details, set to looping patrol with two patrol points, one at each end of the line.
Set the "disappear when" of each platform in the line to a different operand, dialogue prompt, component complete, objective, etc.
Use "component complete" pointing to the encounter in step #3 to take advantage of the OR logic.

Hope this helps until new logic is added by Cryptic.

ash4ll · June 2013

Well played, sir. Well played.

zahinder · June 2013

Wow. I just... there's something so amazingly cool about working around lack of features like this.

Reminds me of stories of programming with extremely limited memory, like back in the 80s.

zovya · June 2013

This sounds interesting. Yet I'm not sure how it is to be used to what end. To be used for something other than the dialogue prompts? I'm not following, can you give me an example how this can be used?

I'm planning on linking all these tricks (timers, random generators, OR gates, etc) to the FAQ.

zoiks100 · June 2013

Well for example, say you have a situation where you have 5 doors to choose from, 1 which is the real exit, and 4 which are red herrings but interacting with any of those 4 will trigger an ambush.

You would use 4 platforms in your line, each set to disappear when one of the 4 red herring doors is completed.

Then you would place the ambush encounter somewhere near those doors and have the appear when the trigger mob is completed.

What would happen when the player interacts with one of the red herring doors is the associated platform would disappear, meaning the trigger mob would fall into the deadfall as soon as he tried to patrol across it. That would then trigger the spawn of the ambush.

Without OR logic you would have been forced to have 4 separate ambush encounters, and after the player defeated an ambush the others could still be triggered unless you somehow blocked it off.

aggropotato · June 2013

Awesome! Bookmarking this thread for future reference.

zovya · June 2013

zoiks100 wrote: »

Well for example, say you have a situation where you have 5 doors to choose from, 1 which is the real exit, and 4 which are red herrings but interacting with any of those 4 will trigger an ambush.

You would use 4 platforms in your line, each set to disappear when one of the 4 red herring doors is completed.

Then you would place the ambush encounter somewhere near those doors and have the appear when the trigger mob is completed.

What would happen when the player interacts with one of the red herring doors is the associated platform would disappear, meaning the trigger mob would fall into the deadfall as soon as he tried to patrol across it. That would then trigger the spawn of the ambush.

Without OR logic you would have been forced to have 4 separate ambush encounters, and after the player defeated an ambush the others could still be triggered unless you somehow blocked it off.

I think I follow you, selecting one keeps the others from being effective. So only one mob would ever spawn.

You have created an effective NOR gate, which is also helpful. Nice!

A good OR logic trigger method.

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