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There IS no room for RP in this game.
jgwentworth4
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I figured I would make a post, since it is sad to see there is no room for RP in this game.
If you want RP, LOTRO, or even the original NwN, or NwN 2 have MANY servers for it, and are better equipped.
Why is there no room for RP here you say?
hMM lets see..No player housing. NO guild housing. ( AND NO THEY DONT INTEND ON PUTTING IT IN)
NO Novelty Items, ( except the fireworks, and maybe wedding clothes)
No food, drinks, etc. No kind of player music system (like LOTRO and other MMos had)
FUlly instanced game, full of mindless banter.
Ya, ok try and "roleplay" like you are in Faeurn. Hmm People running around in the city, with Spider mounts? Drow loose in the civilized world? Casting all kinds of spells? Brandishing weapons? HAHA please.
Now I am not saying I dont enjoy this game, because I do.
BUT If you come here hoping for a D&D adventure, where you can RP your charectar, and live out a "life" and a "story" as your favorite halfling, Elf, or what not, you will be SORELY disaapointed.
IF you take this game for what it IS. ( A HIGHLY instanced, full on themepark MMO, comabt frenzied game) Then you may enjoy it.
The game plays ALOT like DCUO, with the quees, the "tokens" the "gearscore" etc SO, if you didnt like DCUO, chances are, you wont like this.
Hate when people compare this to WoW. it is NOTHING like WoW, or LOTRO, or any "true MMO", This is full on themepark, enjoy the ride, or go home.
That is all.
If you want RP, LOTRO, or even the original NwN, or NwN 2 have MANY servers for it, and are better equipped.
Why is there no room for RP here you say?
hMM lets see..No player housing. NO guild housing. ( AND NO THEY DONT INTEND ON PUTTING IT IN)
NO Novelty Items, ( except the fireworks, and maybe wedding clothes)
No food, drinks, etc. No kind of player music system (like LOTRO and other MMos had)
FUlly instanced game, full of mindless banter.
Ya, ok try and "roleplay" like you are in Faeurn. Hmm People running around in the city, with Spider mounts? Drow loose in the civilized world? Casting all kinds of spells? Brandishing weapons? HAHA please.
Now I am not saying I dont enjoy this game, because I do.
BUT If you come here hoping for a D&D adventure, where you can RP your charectar, and live out a "life" and a "story" as your favorite halfling, Elf, or what not, you will be SORELY disaapointed.
IF you take this game for what it IS. ( A HIGHLY instanced, full on themepark MMO, comabt frenzied game) Then you may enjoy it.
The game plays ALOT like DCUO, with the quees, the "tokens" the "gearscore" etc SO, if you didnt like DCUO, chances are, you wont like this.
Hate when people compare this to WoW. it is NOTHING like WoW, or LOTRO, or any "true MMO", This is full on themepark, enjoy the ride, or go home.
That is all.
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The Devs already stated in several posts that they will support options for Guild housing (possibly through Foundry).
Well, it's Beta, so it's reasonable that there is not many fluff options yet. You could also suggest which kind of Novelty items you deem necesary for your RP needs.
Instancing will end up being the best option if further Foundry expansions give RP guilds option to design towns, scenarios, etc. Think of it as private NwN servers. It will prevent intruding from griefers and trolls to ruin the experience.
Someone still thinks this is 3rd edition, lore for 4th edition has a different approach for Drow. It's been a century since the War of the Spider Queen and many things have happened (incluiding an Exodus from the Dark Elves to the surface, colonies of neutral Drow starting to live in the North, yadda yadda).
This game isn't ideal for RP, but NwN wasn't either. The only reason it supports RP nowadays is because of all the modding the RP community has. I trust that the Devs will be smart here and they will support Foundry enhancements to allow the RP community to develop their own things and enjoy the game. They can charge them for Foundry perks, fashion items, Dyes, etc. Though it's also a risky option (from my experience, RP isn't profitable as many RPers don't want to spend a dime in their games - I don't know about how Americans see this, however. I'm merely talking from the European perspective -).
- Titania Silverblade, the Iron Rose of Myth Drannor (Lvl 60 GWF, Destroyer)
- Gwyneth, the Cowardly Cat Burglar Drowling (Lvl 60 TR, Saboteur)
- Lady Rowanne Firehair, Heartwarder of Sune (Lvl 33 DC)
- Satella, Sensate (LvL 44 CW, Renegade, Non-Active)
Check Steppenkat's Foundry Quest Reviews!
But, as far as player housing..I woulndt hold your breath. SAme with guild housing. Even then will be instanced of course.. ( LOTRO did the same thing too..dissapointing)
But ya..its just not a RP friendly game. WHich is funny, it being a D& D game.
Really lets face it. PW, got the rights to it with Cryptic, and they are capitilzing on the name.
Look how many "Star Wars" merchandise is out there..and now owned by Disney. haha U think they REALLY care about the fans?
You can either stick here and try to improve things, for instance, promoting RP events so that people may have a reason to RP with you and taking them to "hidden" instances or zones.
Or you can keep on ranting, leave and come back here 1 year later. The worst thing that can happen is that you're right and well, you haven't wasted your time. Or someone else enjoyed the improvements and you can come back to pick up the spoils of what someone else did.
- Titania Silverblade, the Iron Rose of Myth Drannor (Lvl 60 GWF, Destroyer)
- Gwyneth, the Cowardly Cat Burglar Drowling (Lvl 60 TR, Saboteur)
- Lady Rowanne Firehair, Heartwarder of Sune (Lvl 33 DC)
- Satella, Sensate (LvL 44 CW, Renegade, Non-Active)
Check Steppenkat's Foundry Quest Reviews!
1 its a brothel and people love to keep remining people who try to treat it like a club/tavern ect.
2 the npcs seem determinined to try to knock you out of your seats you have to spend 20 minutes positioning in cause there is no /e sitchair
3 thanks to the zoomout im often stuck not being able to see anyone unless I stick near a wall or under an arch
4 half of the 2nd floor is devoted to the VIP lounge
5 its full of rp griefers
6 thanks to how the chat tabs/chat bubbles are it can be very hard to follow the rp/or tell the difference between pc and npc chat bubbles
7 most people are wearing the same outfit
8. did I mention its a brothel
I can only hope some of this will be solved with time. most people just rp with their guilds and in foundry missions ive heard.
It seems people just flock to Moonstone for rp, but I don't find standing there and pretending crazy stories are happening a very appealing activity.
To me, roleplay is a way to enhance my immersion and thus my enjoyement of a game, not some sort of activity that is incompatible with all the other things to do.
- Titania Silverblade, the Iron Rose of Myth Drannor (Lvl 60 GWF, Destroyer)
- Gwyneth, the Cowardly Cat Burglar Drowling (Lvl 60 TR, Saboteur)
- Lady Rowanne Firehair, Heartwarder of Sune (Lvl 33 DC)
- Satella, Sensate (LvL 44 CW, Renegade, Non-Active)
Check Steppenkat's Foundry Quest Reviews!
Mindflayer is the unofficial rp server.
I am Amirei the Knife-Ear on Mindflayer
Wow, my experience has been pretty much the opposite - back when I played CoH the biggest spenders WERE the RPers, the moment a new costume piece (or set) appeared in the store they would buy it.
I'm also glad that people have mentioned the Foundry--if you take a long look at available quests, you will find areas created specifically for roleplaying, and they're actually quite enjoyable. I've already made such an area myself for people like me, who want a creative, troll free environment to enjoy with friends and their guild. These, to me, trump the guild areas I've seen, as they have almost unlimited possibility for not only creating the perfect hangout, but entire quests and stories that you can enjoy (and that also give xp and treasure. Woo!)
I agree that we need some flippin' "sit on chair" emotes, but we're certainly not without entertaining ones already. They have at least four different dance emotes, and while much of the armor is the same, this is beta and they went to the trouble of giving us highly customizable dyes for clothing. I hope that the fashion items will expand with different clothing for peasants and nobles and such, but I'm happy with what I have. You always need a measure of imagination in roleplay, anyways.
And, sadly, any place on an MMO where roleplayers gather is bound to be full of trolls and brothel-like atmospheres. WoW certainly holds true for that, and if you don't believe me, just remember Goldshire. We tend to do better in isolated groups, occasionally skimming hubs of activity (like the Moonstone Mask) to meet and greet other roleplayers. It allows for more lore immersion and less interruption between character conversation. It would be nice to have a shard or city area where everyone was always IC, but that's an expectation you have to put on players and the way the community wants to play, not the game makers. You can always find your own group of roleplayers and ignore the out of character stuff going on around you.
Finally, I agree with steppenkat about supporting what you can on Neverwinter. This is actually the first MMO I've seen with its own official roleplay site attached to the main one (more or less). There are also a lot of separate guild sites who have spent a great deal of resources to provide a forum area for their roleplay. If you don't believe me, you really need to see Neverwinter Roleplayers, a hub of activity for people searching for roleplay guilds and groups. They really need more people organizing and participating in roleplay events in-game, and by being part of that, you can bring the game closer to being a more open hub for people just like you.
Blinks hearing almost her life so far spoken of. Looks over to double check the name in case she herself had said this in her sleep.
nam196772, you just describe my life on Dragon shard pretty much so far. Although at lvl 50 I have ran everything solo. -grins- And I have spent many hours standing here pretending all kinds of crazy things are happening.
I heard someone mention something about a 'RP' chat tab so I looked for it last night. Didn't find anything so maybe I misunderstood. So far I really had not expected this world to be much on RP. DDO wasn't, least for me. So I had not expected much. It would be nice to see some. Especially in running a quest/dungeon. It would be nice to 'live' the adventure instead of 'Wow...we got that done in under 5 minutes. Next...'
A Noble House (With and Without Staff)
A Simple House
A Royal Crypt Room
A Dark Dungeon for Grim Rituals
A Tavern (With staff and Patrons)
An Inn (With Staff and Patrons)
A Wizards Sanctuary
It Includes NO Story, No Combat, No Puzzles, No Adventure and No Meaningful Dialogue. perfect for your role playing desire WHAT ever that may be.
All are privately instanced so only You and those who are in your party can see and hear each other.
Also A Quick Search there is
'A Role Player's Home'
'Camping! (RP)' Which includes 4 different campsites for your RP Needs what ever they MIGHT be.
'Tindara's Tavern (Made for Mostly RP with some combat if you choose)'
'Laersect's House (RP MAP)'
the list continues... just do a search man come on.
I'm just so glad to know there really are other RP'ers out there in this game... It has been a very quiet 38 levels so far. I really *really* need to take a deep breath and jump into the whole Foundry thing and see what's there -- it has intimidated me up to now.
At this point, if I could just find even a semi-RP guild on Mindflayer, one that isn't hopelessly devoted to immersion-wrecking voice chat, I'd be happy!
Go on the official Neverwinter Rp Enjin page and you will see that people are having a great time RP-ing.
http://www.neverwinter-rp.com/
Yes, the chat is hard to follow, but I think it is because EVERYONE goes into the Moonstone to RP, and with everyone RP-ing at the same time (which is a good thing) its hard to follow. Maybe if people start going out in different areas to RP then it wont be as bad. There are SO many other places to go RP at too, it just takes people to make the decision to go there and do it.
This can be achieved by making events, and letting people know! If you build it, they will come basically. Once PW starts seeing that there is a RP community growing they will focus on adding new content. Also from my experience, RPers are the ones buying the Fluff content on MMO's. A good example can be found in Tera for that believe me.
Maybe start taking a initiative to create a RP community (its a new game, so it has to be done) is what you should be doing, instead of waiting for the game to just give it to you.
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Hello, hello. Sorry to be off-topic, but I wanted to comment on the Moonstone Mask thing - Now keep in mind, I've not (as of yet) played this MMO (I have however, played the first and second NWN games to death) - but last time I checked, in the canon, the Moonstone Mask was no longer a brothel. If I'm not mistaken, in the first NWN game (Diamond, I believe), it WAS a brothel, but as of NWN2 (Platinum?) it was redefined as a more refined place built to market privacy instead of harlotry. And I do believe NWN (the older games) were canonical. Does that mean that this NWN MMO does not follow the canon? In addition, this wiki article refers to the Moonstone Mask as a
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