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Mountains of boxes. I think we need a new currency.

karaadkaraad Member Posts: 89
edited June 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
So I was dawdling around on my mule for a moment and realized I have 114 Nightmare Lock boxes. I have yet to see a key drop in game, I once traded for one, to get jack squat of course, but now they just sit collecting digital dust.

Why not add a new type of currency into the game? They already have several different types everywhere else.

Zen keys - Which allow you to get the uncommon, rare and epic drops <- you can already get these!
PvE keys - Allow you to get an assortment of potions or maybe the regular 2 gold horse? Common items
PvP keys - Stuff for PvP, party poppers, cosmetic stuffs?

This would bring the lock boxes back into the economy as a currency as well, people would be trading lock boxes for various types of keys to obtain different types of rewards, some more rewarding than others. If people want the companions or mounts they still have to pay for those keys. Although someone will be buying those keys to trade for a large amount of PvE/PvP keys.

2 new currencies, returning one to the market, more confusion, like a smoke bomb. Poof.
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  • norobladnoroblad Member Posts: 556 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I have a better idea.
    How about mobs drop loot directly instead of a gimmick to make you pay a buck for every kill to get your drop.
  • amberstardusteramberstarduster Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    noroblad wrote: »
    I have a better idea.
    How about mobs drop loot directly instead of a gimmick to make you pay a buck for every kill to get your drop.

    What? This does not even begin to make sense?
  • phoenixrte69phoenixrte69 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    What? This does not even begin to make sense?

    You sir need some practice with your TrollSpeak skills...

    What he means is, cut the Lockboxes <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> gimmick and have Mobs drop LOOT instead of Lockboxes.

    Yet again... If the mobs were dropping rare loot instead of Lockboxes, more fun and less trouble for the players o.O
  • ruinedmirageruinedmirage Member Posts: 440 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    What? This does not even begin to make sense?

    You kill a mob > mob drops lockbox > you pay PWE $1 to open said lockbox > loot whatever was inside the lockbox

    Or if you're into short division.......

    You kill a mob > you pay $1 to open the lockbox it drops and obtain the random loot
  • elessymelessym Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    You sir need some practice with your TrollSpeak skills...

    What he means is, cut the Lockboxes <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> gimmick and have Mobs drop LOOT instead of Lockboxes.

    Yet again... If the mobs were dropping rare loot instead of Lockboxes, more fun and less trouble for the players o.O

    Sure, just as soon as everyone starts paying a sub.

    They have to make money, ya know.
    "Participation in PVP-related activities is so low on an hourly, daily, weekly, and monthly basis that we could in fact just completely take it out of STO and it would not impact the overall number of people [who] log in to the game and play in any significant way." -Gozer, Cryptic PvP Dev
  • clannamuirclannamuir Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 217 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    Or you can sell the lockboxes in the AH and let someone else buy the key.
  • norobladnoroblad Member Posts: 556 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    elessym wrote: »
    Sure, just as soon as everyone starts paying a sub.

    They have to make money, ya know.

    I have played a number of good free games that did just fine making money without selling your loot back to you. Bank space, bags, character slots, exotic races and classes, fancy outfits, whatever... there are other things to sell and players WILL buy them if the game is good.

    How many spiders you see running around in town? People WILL pay for such things.
  • amberstardusteramberstarduster Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    You sir need some practice with your TrollSpeak skills...

    What he means is, cut the Lockboxes <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> gimmick and have Mobs drop LOOT instead of Lockboxes.

    Yet again... If the mobs were dropping rare loot instead of Lockboxes, more fun and less trouble for the players o.O

    *rolls eyes* was not an attempt at Trolling, was trying to figure out How he came to the conclusion you paid a dollar for every Mob you kill. Perhaps you are getting way more Boxes than I am, I have picked up about 20 of them and just reached lvl 51 yesterday.

    So again how do you figure 1$ for every mob? I can see what you are saying about having other ways to get Keys, or dropping regular loot instead of the boxes. I was just saying that what was being implied did not make sense.

    Not every mob drops a box so ... not every mob costs a dollar to kill.
  • darknssssdarknssss Member Posts: 48
    edited May 2013
    Sell all the box for gold if you dont intend to buy any keys,10-15 silver each boxes is better then nothing.
  • lilmonkey222lilmonkey222 Banned Users Posts: 296 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    karaad wrote: »
    I have yet to see a key drop in game

    Shame, they drop all the time for me. RNG is RNG I guess.
  • karaadkaraad Member Posts: 89
    edited May 2013
    clannamuir wrote: »
    Or you can sell the lockboxes in the AH and let someone else buy the key.

    Yes but people would be buying the lock boxes to open them with the PvE keys as well to get extra potions via astral diamonds and not introducing a new type of "key" for the lock boxes that gives different types of drops would bring the usefulness of the lockboxes back in a way thats not P2W and encourage trading between the paid keys and the dropped keys.

    Obviously the drop rate of the PvE keys would be very uncommon if not rare. Much more rare than the lockboxes themselves.
  • allaerraallaerra Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 838 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    Another useless thread. We do NOT need more keys. It is bad enough with the lockboxes but they make money with it. Have some restraint if you don't want to buy keys:rolleyes: or sell your boxes on the AH.
  • imsmithyimsmithy Member Posts: 1,378 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    karaad wrote: »
    So I was dawdling around on my mule for a moment and realized I have 114 Nightmare Lock boxes. I have yet to see a key drop in game, I once traded for one, to get jack squat of course, but now they just sit collecting digital dust.

    Why not add a new type of currency into the game? They already have several different types everywhere else.

    Zen keys - Which allow you to get the uncommon, rare and epic drops <- you can already get these!
    PvE keys - Allow you to get an assortment of potions or maybe the regular 2 gold horse? Common items
    PvP keys - Stuff for PvP, party poppers, cosmetic stuffs?

    This would bring the lock boxes back into the economy as a currency as well, people would be trading lock boxes for various types of keys to obtain different types of rewards, some more rewarding than others. If people want the companions or mounts they still have to pay for those keys. Although someone will be buying those keys to trade for a large amount of PvE/PvP keys.

    2 new currencies, returning one to the market, more confusion, like a smoke bomb. Poof.

    As long as whatever drops from them doesn't need an announcement , so sick of seeing that stupid announcement that somebody got that heavy nightmare horse or whatever it is.
  • talesmithtalesmith Member Posts: 116
    edited May 2013
    Hey at least we don't have to cough up cash to identify our gear. That'd be the day...

    Anyway, lockboxes are the oldest monetization trick in the book, and they're not likely to go. Better get used to it because enough players fall for it.
  • kwequakwequa Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Just lottery tickets..
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • kiralynkiralyn Member Posts: 1,440 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Or you can realize that the lockboxes are an additional drop beyond the regular mob loot (i.e, the box isn't the "mob's loot" trapped behind a key), and that they're optional.
    edit: this is remarkably clear when you see how the boxes drop in Star Trek - regular mobs drop at most one item, in a capsule. When a box drops, it's alongside that capsule. No loot is being lost because of that box drop.

    But that would involve internet gaming forums not being wall-to-wall complaints. :rolleyes:


    re: the announcemnt - hit escape, go to Rearrange HUD (or whatever it's called), drag the notification box out of the center of the screen. reduces the annoyance factor greatly.
  • lolpwelollolpwelol Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Shame, they drop all the time for me. RNG is RNG I guess.

    Sure they do champ. Troll more.
  • nornsavantnornsavant Member Posts: 311 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    elessym wrote: »
    They have to make money, ya know.

    No they don’t.

    I don’t owe them anything and neither do you. In fact its their job to impress me into paying them, to offer something that I cant get anywhere else and thus I will pay for the privilege of owning that thing so unique and interesting.

    The value of what I buy is exactly what I agree to pay for it. The notion that some company or another “has to make money” is ridiculous.

    They have to earn money.

    And what have they done to earn yours? Perceptual trickery, bait and switch currencies, labyrinths of out-of-game to in-game exchange rates over a variety of coins? How about the prisoner’s dilemma loot system, having fun with that? How about the school-yard bully chat ban system, is that admirable? Peer pressure announcements about people winning their imaginary ponies just like you can for the purchase of only a few (dozen) keys.

    It is only of the slimmest consolation that one never seems to run out of suckers buying the boxes in the AH so at least they are worth some diamonds.

    But has this game earned your money? Have they provided you with a 200$ product? A 60$ product? Or have they provided you with a free product and an excuse to flush money into their pockets.

    If you are going to give money to a company for something, at least demand that you get something in return besides the opportunity to give them more money.
  • lilmonkey222lilmonkey222 Banned Users Posts: 296 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    nornsavant wrote: »
    No they don’t.

    I don’t owe them anything and neither do you. In fact its their job to impress me into paying them, to offer something that I cant get anywhere else and thus I will pay for the privilege of owning that thing so unique and interesting.

    The value of what I buy is exactly what I agree to pay for it. The notion that some company or another “has to make money” is ridiculous.

    They have to earn money.

    And what have they done to earn yours? Perceptual trickery, bait and switch currencies, labyrinths of out-of-game to in-game exchange rates over a variety of coins? How about the prisoner’s dilemma loot system, having fun with that? How about the school-yard bully chat ban system, is that admirable? Peer pressure announcements about people winning their imaginary ponies just like you can for the purchase of only a few (dozen) keys.

    It is only of the slimmest consolation that one never seems to run out of suckers buying the boxes in the AH so at least they are worth some diamonds.

    But has this game earned your money? Have they provided you with a 200$ product? A 60$ product? Or have they provided you with a free product and an excuse to flush money into their pockets.

    If you are going to give money to a company for something, at least demand that you get something in return besides the opportunity to give them more money.

    So... why are you still here?
  • nornsavantnornsavant Member Posts: 311 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    So... why are you still here?

    What a bizarre non-sequitur.

    And don’t answer a question with a question. Surely you have something to contribute to the OP.
  • lilmonkey222lilmonkey222 Banned Users Posts: 296 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    nornsavant wrote: »
    What a bizarre non-sequitur.

    And don’t answer a question with a question. Surely you have something to contribute to the OP.

    So, why are you still here? I'm genuinely wondering.
  • pharoah4187pharoah4187 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    @ nornsavant (your post is apparently not quotable)

    They've earned their money, in my book. I've paid 10 bucks for a 90-minute movie that sucked and wasn't the least bit entertaining. I've paid $60 for games with game-breaking bugs that prevented me from actually completing the game, and I've paid $60 for games that kept me occupied for 4 hours before I'd beaten it and grown tired of the experience. I've spent time in a casino and pissed money away, and I've paid to not have fun with various other experiences. I'm enjoying the game. I'm having fun playing the game. It's not perfect, but it doesn't have to be. The entertainment it provides alone is worth a few bucks, in my book.
  • lerdocixlerdocix Member Posts: 897 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    @nornsavant
    I'm pretty sure you work for free and are paid only if you impress your picky, arrogant customers, otherwise you don't see any money.
    You don't?
    Well, now you know why lockboxes keys cost money.
    And if lockbox contents does not impress you, why the whine thread in the first place?
  • sivinaksivinak Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    nornsavant wrote: »
    No they don
  • karaadkaraad Member Posts: 89
    edited May 2013
    Does every thread on this forum just end up in rage and arguments being thrown back and forth? None of this is even on topic...
  • lilmonkey222lilmonkey222 Banned Users Posts: 296 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    karaad wrote: »
    Does every thread on this forum just end up in rage and arguments being thrown back and forth? None of this is even on topic...

    Welcome to the internet!
  • eviltoastzaeviltoastza Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    this enchanted key <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> = pay to win............to pay money to get loot is exactly that and i find it abhorrent.
  • klipstaklipsta Member Posts: 99
    edited June 2013
    this enchanted key <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> = pay to win............to pay money to get loot is exactly that and i find it abhorrent.

    then quit you shmuck. no one is forcing you to play.
  • lerdocixlerdocix Member Posts: 897 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    this enchanted key <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> = pay to win............to pay money to get loot is exactly that and i find it abhorrent.

    To win what? A different looking mount semi unique mount? An enchant? Box of random blue gear for your level and class? Useless striker companion?
  • chai23chai23 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    noroblad wrote: »
    I have a better idea.
    How about mobs drop loot directly instead of a gimmick to make you pay a buck for every kill to get your drop.

    This.

    /10char
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