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Perfect World and other languages except english...

mrvisa1000mrvisa1000 Member Posts: 13 Arc User
edited June 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
Why you guys only show foundry quests in english on "Foundry Screenshot of the Week" or even in the "Foundry Spotlight"? Do you have something agaisnt other languages?
There are awesome quests in other languages you know? Give them an oportunity to "shine" also.

Edit: Perfect World/Cryptic ... whatever
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  • zerj12zerj12 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Well I did think it was somehwhat amusing that my last auction item sold to a german player. Hence I received an automated message from the Auktionshaus with my diamonds.
  • chuckwolfchuckwolf Member Posts: 634 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I would think the reason the devs don't feature foreign language content in the spotlight is because, well simply, they don't speak or read those languages, which makes it kind of hard to find the ones they like to spotlight if they can't understand the dialog. That really limits gameplay.
    @Powerblast in game
  • norobladnoroblad Member Posts: 556 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    At a guess, I would bet that most of the folks doing the "foundry of the day" type stuff do not speak 30 languages and are unable to actually evaluate the other modules to say if they are good or poor. I would toss it out as a suggestion (to get some of their translators to take a look at the foundry modules) rather than assert bigotry and rant about it.
  • joewoodcutter1joewoodcutter1 Member Posts: 100
    edited May 2013
    OP is right, theres an awesome quest out there written in french. Even if you dont speak a word of french the quest is still great to do.
    Little diamonds like this should be promoted, not completely ignored.
  • ehraehra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    noroblad wrote: »
    I would toss it out as a suggestion (to get some of their translators to take a look at the foundry modules) rather than assert bigotry and rant about it.

    I wonder if the OP even realizes that Perfect World is from China.
  • askopdkapokaskopdkapok Member Posts: 648 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    mrvisa1000 wrote: »
    Why you guys only show foundry quests in english on "Foundry Screenshot of the Week" or even in the "Foundry Spotlight"? Do you have something agaisnt other languages?
    There are awesome quests in other languages you know? Give them an oportunity to "shine" also.

    Judging based on the fact they apparently can't read their own forums, I don't even think they are english speaking.
  • norobladnoroblad Member Posts: 556 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    ehra wrote: »
    I wonder if the OP even realizes that Perfect World is from China.

    PWE is just a "packing" company though, the work is cryptic, right? I do not know where cryptic is based out of but if they are like most the bulk of the actual software development is outsourced to some poor sap in some 3rd world country for $2 an hour or something... its hard to say but its a safe bet that whoever picks the things does not know more than, at most, 2-3 languages well enough to evaluate modules in those, if that.
  • dardovedardove Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    noroblad wrote: »
    PWE is just a "packing" company though, the work is cryptic, right? I do not know where cryptic is based out of but if they are like most the bulk of the actual software development is outsourced to some poor sap in some 3rd world country for $2 an hour or something... its hard to say but its a safe bet that whoever picks the things does not know more than, at most, 2-3 languages well enough to evaluate modules in those, if that.

    If i remember correctly, Cryptic is in Los Gatos, California. Perfect World Entertainment also has an office someone in California as well.
  • norobladnoroblad Member Posts: 556 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    dardove wrote: »
    If i remember correctly, Cryptic is in Los Gatos, California. Perfect World Entertainment also has an office someone in California as well.

    LOLOLOLOL --- its based in a town called
    if my spanish is up to par ---- "THE CATS". I am easily amused but that is very funny to me.
  • lerdocixlerdocix Member Posts: 897 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    noroblad wrote: »
    LOLOLOLOL --- its based in a town called
    if my spanish is up to par ---- "THE CATS". I am easily amused but that is very funny to me.

    Everyone who is a caturday survivor should smile a little. I know I did.
  • osiabunnyosiabunny Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    A Korean game maker only loves English? Umm the person mentioned perfectworld not Cryptic though.
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  • ehraehra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    shahualing wrote: »
    PWE is a Mainland China company, and PWE has little to do with game development or maintenance beyond ways to monetize it.

    Yes, this is obvious. The point is that the OP accusing Perfect World of having a thing against all non-english languages is nonsensical. You're just further explaining why the OP makes no sense.
  • allaerraallaerra Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 838 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    noroblad wrote: »
    LOLOLOLOL --- its based in a town called
    if my spanish is up to par ---- "THE CATS". I am easily amused but that is very funny to me.

    That is sooo ironically awesome:D.
    joewoodcutter1 wrote: »
    OP is right, theres an awesome quest out there written in french. Even if you dont speak a word of french the quest is still great to do.
    Little diamonds like this should be promoted, not completely ignored.

    No offense, but if you are writing a quest which a very small segment can read, why would it be a spotlight quest? To me, the spotlight quests are those with mass appeal, high ratings, and lots of plays. Honestly, I would not play a non-english quest with the possible exception of a Spanish one since I speak rudimentary Spanish. Doing a quest in a language I did not understand would take out at least 90% of the enjoyment.

    I prefer quests with storyline and lore. I like the occassional puzzle as well. I do not want a grinding or lets go kill mobs quest, I can find enough of that type content in game. So, for me, since I like storyline, I want to be able to understand it. I would guess others do as well.

    This is not bigotry or bias, just common sense.

    I recognize there can be great quests that fit the rest of my criteria in other languages, but since I do not understand them, they do not work for me.

    Since, I am guessing, the majority of the player base is English speaking, that is probably part of the issue. Personally, I would suggest that someone start a section in the Foundry Area of the Forum for non-English quests where a summary blurb and short code can be listed. That will give some exposure to those quests and also make it easier for folks looking for a good French, German, or Dutch (as examples) quest:D.
  • ambisinisterrambisinisterr Member, Neverwinter Moderator Posts: 10,462 Community Moderator
    edited May 2013
    noroblad wrote: »
    At a guess, I would bet that most of the folks doing the "foundry of the day" type stuff do not speak 30 languages and are unable to actually evaluate the other modules to say if they are good or poor. I would toss it out as a suggestion (to get some of their translators to take a look at the foundry modules) rather than assert bigotry and rant about it.

    I don't think I could word it better. ;)
    Besides it's still the first few weeks. The vast majority of Foundry Content is in English. In time I'm sure we'll see other languages.
  • vampir888888vampir888888 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Actually they do. At least the german NW-Site has a Foundry Spotlight section for Foundry missions in German. Just change your language setting for the mainpage and you can find them. I assume the same is true for Foundry missions in French but not sure about that.

    So while the translation of the game might not be perfect, they have nothing against other languages... at least in this case.
  • mrvisa1000mrvisa1000 Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    ambisinisterr wrote: »
    I don't think I could word it better. ;)
    Besides it's still the first few weeks. The vast majority of Foundry Content is in English. In time I'm sure we'll see other languages.

    I understand. It's just the "Foundry Screenshot of the Week" and the "Foundry Spotlight" should be about quality and not about how many people play a specific quest. That's my view about that. About quests in other languages there are many out there and with excellent quality.
    In my case i'm working one atm in portuguese and i can tell it's good **** adventure, it's just i have my doubts about doing in portuguese or english because i want people to play my quest you know?
  • norobladnoroblad Member Posts: 556 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    mrvisa1000 wrote: »
    I understand. It's just the "Foundry Screenshot of the Week" and the "Foundry Spotlight" should be about quality and not about how many people play a specific quest. That's my view about that. About quests in other languages there are many out there and with excellent quality.
    In my case i'm working one atm in portuguese and i can tell it's good **** adventure, it's just i have my doubts about doing in portuguese or english because i want people to play my quest you know?

    Why not do both if you speak both? Npc at the door asks you to choose and from there you can insert the appropriate dialog based off that choice, if I understand it. And a typical module only has 1/2 to 1 page worth of text so retyping it should be like a matter of 1/2 an hour tops if you are bilingual. Not 100% sure if that would work or not but there are clearly decisions you can make that can be used to change dialog and interactions, so in theory it *should* work.
  • shad99shad99 Member Posts: 79 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    While personally I speak English, French, Spanish, Russian, Japanese, and Mandarin/Cantonese... I doubt I could review more than a couple of foundry quests in the game that were not in English. I'm certain I have a bit broader language scattering then most people in the US (or Canada, or even Mexico).

    I'm sure eventually the spotlight will focus on other languages than it currently has... But the appeal may be fairly limited.
  • mrvisa1000mrvisa1000 Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    noroblad wrote: »
    Why not do both if you speak both? Npc at the door asks you to choose and from there you can insert the appropriate dialog based off that choice, if I understand it. And a typical module only has 1/2 to 1 page worth of text so retyping it should be like a matter of 1/2 an hour tops if you are bilingual. Not 100% sure if that would work or not but there are clearly decisions you can make that can be used to change dialog and interactions, so in theory it *should* work.

    That's a very good idea! I'll try that! Thx! :)
  • holt3holt3 Member Posts: 333 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    The title of this thread is misleading. It's absurd to think that the game developers are discriminating against other nationalities. The game is developed in the US, therefore it's chief language is English.
  • mrvisa1000mrvisa1000 Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    holt3 wrote: »
    The title of this thread is misleading. It's absurd to think that the game developers are discriminating against other nationalities. The game is developed in the US, therefore it's chief language is English.

    It's not misleading. It's just a question that makes you think when you don't see other foundry quests in other languages appearing in "Foundry Screenshot of the Week" or even in the "Foundry Spotlight". And that my friend it's a fact.
  • aandrethegiantaandrethegiant Member Posts: 3,369 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Yeah, due to the immense flame already beginning in this thread, we are going to close this thread down. PW and Cryptic are of course open to everyone, and to think otherwise is just downright silliness.

    In fact, our guild will be running a Foundry mission tomorrow that was featured... and it's completely in German, by a German author. We are going to try to grab a German speaking guildie to help us along. If not, we are going to be froggy about it and enjoy his hard work anyways!

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