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trannysupergay
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What are you doing?
We NEED A DEV TRACKING SYSTEM.
Like what are you really doing? Like really What are you doing?
The game users need to know what your working on. What stage your at. A Daily progress report or ok fine WEEKLY at least. Please the people need to know. No news is usually bad news. What makes it worse is people then just start to speculate what you are and arnt doing. It seems to me sometimes your just a bunch of useless computer techs from Staples, and you out source everything. Are you tackling one issue at a time or a bunch at once. Are you running around playing pocket pool.
People are getting more angry with the game everyday. 80-90 of the posts are not happy it seems. At least give us something to look forward to. Progress reports are really nice.
We NEED A DEV TRACKING SYSTEM.
Like what are you really doing? Like really What are you doing?
The game users need to know what your working on. What stage your at. A Daily progress report or ok fine WEEKLY at least. Please the people need to know. No news is usually bad news. What makes it worse is people then just start to speculate what you are and arnt doing. It seems to me sometimes your just a bunch of useless computer techs from Staples, and you out source everything. Are you tackling one issue at a time or a bunch at once. Are you running around playing pocket pool.
People are getting more angry with the game everyday. 80-90 of the posts are not happy it seems. At least give us something to look forward to. Progress reports are really nice.
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I am talking about the games issues really. The bugs and such. The expliots and such. I dont care about adding new <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> or features as of yet. If they cant fix an exploit then they really should hire better people. They should just come out and say hey our programmers suck and dont know how to fix this issue and that issue and we fired said employee or employees to hire better more qualified people we are sorry for the problems but we will hire someone to fix the issues.
I just would like to see the dev's answer to all the known issues and what they are doing to fix them. I think Starwars does that, mechawarrior i bet pretty much most other MMO's do this also.
But not here. Here we are in the dark. What are they working on? MOstly i see adding <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> to the Zen store then fixing the game. Thats what i see more <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> to buy and nothing about fixing this game that i really would like to see gain a better foothold. I was so much looking forward to this game.
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It must be a cryptic mystery for us all to fathom how they work. I do know they are working on adding new stuff the Zen store. Its a bit of a cryptic mystery that the Zen store doesnt havnt any bugs or exploits. That is a strange thing. I dont think that site has ever gone down or has had any bugs or issues. What a cryptic mystery that is. I guess from it not having bugs or exploits it wasnt programmed by CRYPTIC the dev not the mystery cryptic.
Plus OP i never asked for a deadline. Just want to know what they are doing? Other then adding <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> to the Zen store or adding more characters to the game or races. I want to know what they are doing about the issues the real ones that 90% of the posts on this forum are asking about.
well, easier said than done. some "exploit" simply exists even in other MMO, only the differences is they manage to handle while NW dev can't.
For a developer (yes, I was a software developer for over two decades) having to attend interminable status meetings, fill out timesheets, type in the ticket number for every line of code written, email the project manager for the project number, email them again to remind them to assign you to the project number so that you can enter time against it, get to Friday afternoon with your boss nagging you to fill out the timesheet even tho the project manager still hasn't assigned you even tho you've already spent 12 hours on that project... All of this is overhead that takes developers away from doing development and pushes them into shuffling paperwork.
And they *never* get a project number to book the 2-4 hours of 'paperwork' to. There was a Dilbert cartoon along these lines... "What's the project number for the time I have to spend filling out TPS reports?"
During 'crunch' time, when developers are working 80-140 hours per week without overtime pay or other compensation, the last thing they need is some guy with a clipboard and stopwatch hovering over them reminding them that they are late for the 'status' meeting. Especially so when you're one of the lead developers getting told that the status meetings are 'Mandatory', and even more so when you get ten different 'project managers' all wanting a daily one hour status meeting at different times during the same week or even *DAY*.
Add to that all the folks here *demanding* that something get fixed *now*. Until the internal testers can replicate it accurately, the developers might not even know where to begin looking in the code. Before they've looked at it, understood it and come up with a fix that doesn't break something else there's simply no way to accurately estimate how long it's going to take. The more obscure the issue, the less chance that 'Joe Random Developer' can fix it. Some of the bugs may be in an area of the code that only one person can work on, some may require very specific expertise or intricate knowledge of some obscure API call that's poorly documented. That one developer with that level of expertise could very well be already fully committed on fixing something else that management has given a higher priority (or be scheduled to spend the entire day in status meetings!).
Asking an underpaid and vastly overworked developer to take another 30 minutes each day (or week!) to 'appease the masses' is asking too much.
OP refers to the first poster of the thread or to the first post so referring to the OP is referring to you and not me. And you have asked for a deadline by asking for daily and/or weekly reports. A deadline doesn't necessarily mean when a bug or exploit is fixed, it just means that a certain task has to be accomplished by a certain time.
Again OP i never asked for a dam time line at all. Again no time line want to know what they are working on and such. They dont have to look over code to figure out what exploit and such they needed to google neverwinter exploit and they would of found tons that way. With videos and instructions on how to exploit the freaken game. They also had to of known about the exploits in closed beta but never did anything to fix them before the SOFT LAUNCH.
No it doesnt mean a time line you idiot. It just lists yes they are working on blah blah and this and that. Other dev's do this with out giving time lines or saying we are working on the bug and estimate it fixed by this date. They just list the bug and say yes we are working on this and will fix it.
Or you could just relax a bit, maybe. Back away from the pc and go and poo. Works wonders.
No it doesnt mean they have to give timelines or any type of deadline.
Here is a quote from Starwars MMO about some windows xp issue.
"Hello Windows XP folks,
We're currently investigating your reports! Thanks for posting to let us know it's happening on PTS; we will post updates as they become available."
Where in that post does it give a freakin timeline or anything about how long it will take. All it does is let the community know hey we know about this issue. We are working on it and will let you know in the future what they are doin to fix it.
I could pull dev posts from tons of other games but that would waist my time.
I ask the dev's to simply list all the issues and bug they are working on. Saying well if we post about exploits more people will know about them is stupid. All people have to do is google them anyway.
Yeah, I have to say, while I totally believe your whole scenario may well be accurate. The bottom line is , they are releasing new and interesting ways of throwing your money in a virtual trash can,(see new friends pack), rather than addressing game breaking issues, the way things stand at this moment class balance is shattered, The LFD tool is a malfunctioning POS, For some reason they had the bright idea to give the party leader total control knowing people are complete tools, Tanks can't tank, Healing IS tanking.....FFS the list goes on longer, but in the end it all results in 2 things.
1) A huge reduction in player base.
2) a critique saying simply - Lots of potential, but ultimately ....forgettable.
A-pucking-men!
That is the difference between these armchair developers and the real deal, they think devs sit around playing Farmville all day laughing at folks who are having these issues...they can't comprehend the level of suck this career path can achieve. Fifteen to sixteen hour days,(and during crunch time it's seven days a week) no overtime, no life outside of the project and getting insults and routine threats ( I know two major figures in gaming that could write a book on the death threats they have gotten.) from the unwashed masses on the forums.
I laugh my *** off every time some forum camper says.."Where have all the good video programmers gone?" They are coding enterprise software or working as project managers to off shore teams, working forty five hours a week at most and making three times the salary; that's where.
Honestly I am amazed by anyone over thirty five who is still in the industry and still loves what they do, because considering all the negatives and the vast high paying opportunities for even junior programmers, you have to be wicked dedicated or insane to do it.
Excuse me while I finish laughing..... Ok better..... so what you are saying is WORK sucks and They aren't getting paid enough?
JOIN THE $%&*ing CLUB
Maybe you would get paid better if you had some basic reading comprehension?
No what I'm saying is game development sucks and why should they deal with myopic little dilettante's, when the rest of the field can offer them a much better situation.
I am not asking for a specific deadline, you are. From your own opening post.
A daily bug/exploit report or a weekly bug/exploit report is a deadline that you want to force onto the devs to follow. if the devs want to do a bug/exploit report, then it should be on their own time and not follow any specific deadline which you indicated in your opening post with your comment about daily and weekly reports.
Quality.
Fixed that for you.
On a more serious note. I have seen games fail due to not keeping their players informed.
The benefits of paying someone to be a community manager that is active on the forums and will address concerns between the company and players several times a day tend to add up to bigger profits.
The OP isnt asking for a deadline at all they just want to know what they are working on just like every other game out there does with thier respected dev forums and or whatever practice they use. Saying they are asking for a timeline isnt right. I went over the post and it doesnt ask for a time line at all.
This is a correct statement OP.
I think We need a dev forum area to post the issues and then the devs can answer them just like other game dev do. This would lessen the anger on the general forum area at least and have a place for issues to be reported then answered by the dev team. They dont have to give timelines which the origional poster never asked for.
So instead of devs working on the code, you want them spending their time on the forums? Maybe they could also log into the game to come find you personally to help you find the bank in PE?
Scrooge Twatter and Farcebook. If I want to know anything about this game, I come to it's website. www.neverwinter.com, where pertinent information should air FIRST. Right on the front page.
Occam's Razor makes the cutting clean.