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theamorabunny
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NWN, which this game is based off of, had great built in role playing functionality that helped in online modules. Some of those features are missing in this game:
- Radial menu, making emotes and gestures far easier to access
- No method to "walk"
- No RP server. Yet?
- Voice aspects along with emotes
- Customization in characters other than everyone having the exact same armor class/weapon for their class. Weapon fighters can fight with anything, they shouldn't be limited to just a giant sword.
- No character voices.
The game is labeled as a role playing game, but I've yet to see any form of role playing take place that made NWN enjoyable. Is this the intended goal?
NWN, which this game is based off of, had great built in role playing functionality that helped in online modules. Some of those features are missing in this game:
- Radial menu, making emotes and gestures far easier to access
- No method to "walk"
- No RP server. Yet?
- Voice aspects along with emotes
- Customization in characters other than everyone having the exact same armor class/weapon for their class. Weapon fighters can fight with anything, they shouldn't be limited to just a giant sword.
- No character voices.
The game is labeled as a role playing game, but I've yet to see any form of role playing take place that made NWN enjoyable. Is this the intended goal?
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Syntax should be /bind 0 ++walk
Switch out 0 for any key you would like. The ++ allows the key to act as a toggle. Press once to turn it on, press again to turn it off.
And I don't expect an RP server to ever be in the cards. Cryptic is hard set on having a single unified shard. That said, having that has not diminished RP in either STO or CO. So I wouldn't stress over it to much. Honestly, I expect you'll see more RP once a bit of the newness wears off. I expect most folks are still riding the level train and exploring the game. In my own experiences, RP tends to be a downtime pastime.
As far as your last point, I agree totally. We need more weapon skins. We need more weapon types. We need more variety across the board. The game makes me feel like i'm in some kind of school and we are restricted to academy approved uniforms and fighting styles.
For the most part, anyone who's played NWN will know the kind of RP functionality I'm speaking of. Your character "Laughing" without a voice behind it is sort of lame. I miss my cold chuckle...
And yes, I shouldn't be limited to, as a cleric, a hand mirror for damage and healing.
And as much as I've tried, I've never found a true RP server in ANY online game, unless it was less than 10 people total, like a virtual table top.
Oh and Sockmunky you are AWESOME for passing along the walk bind, been wanting to know how to do that forever.
Did you try NeverWinter Nights? 90% of all online mods were RP heavy. Anphillia comes immediately to mind as one of the best.
Mindflayer, is the unofficial RP server
there are a lot of rpers in moonstone mask though thanks to it being an IC brothel most of the rpers seem to be meeting in Foundry missions or zone taverns thus splitting up the general BaRP people.
Also there is a global channel NWRP for ooc chat about rp and "TalkingStones" for IC rp with the theme of a mad wizard has scattered these Comm like rocks around for adventurers to pick up and chat on.
Customization is harder here than most of cryptics games due to the fact you often have the choice between either looking like everyone else of your class/level, or the fashion objects which give you the choice between belly dancer and Disney princess with nothing in the middle. id like one of those peasant girl tops all the bar wenches wear and a top that doesn't leave my midriff exposed.
the only pants available look like rags unless colored very specifically, and most the dresses fly up and show your panties at the slightest motion. though I've actually only been scolded for dressing inappropriately when wearing the only skirt that does not show underwear the aforementioned Disney princess skirt. of course if I hadn't wanted to stay IC and a bit aloof id have said "inappropriate here? you should see me try to backstab pirates in this thing" ((yep I put it on my rogue cause its fun to watch her flip around in a hoopskirt))
to make matters worse outfits are items that fill up your bank space rather than costume slots like CO and sto so you don't want to get more than you are acutally going to use. and since not all colours are available via independent dye you have to be pretty clever with dye packs to get white gold silver or brown. but as for non outfit customizability ive been able to do some pretty fun things with sliders. see my sig.
also We NEED a sit chair, wall lean, drink, and some other basic basics. it would be nice if you could have chat up in observe mode so you can scroll in while rping and see who your talking to. I often position myself near a wall or arch to get a closer up view. and we really need stances like in CO and sto my mage constantly looks like shes ready to smack someone.
As for wardrobe - I imagine that's what the casual clothing toggle is for. It's too bad that there isn't a large enough selection to choose from ATM. Perhaps they could make it so you could put regular gear in there - it wouldn't provide any bonuses, just cosmetic looks, (so if you found a piece of gear you liked the look of, you could display it there instead).
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According to your name, you are a bunny, but according to your avatar, you are a pony. This is madness!
Aren't you the same person that tells everyone it's just beta?
Well it's just beta, wait until launch "rolls-eyes"
RPers are still in games even during BETA.
Aion comes to mind. SW:TOR comes to mind.
One of my favorite emotes was the "this lock needs a gentle touch" (or something close to that) and then proceed to bash the door in by force.
The game creators (Cryptic) talk about it being an epic role playing adventure. They basically took NeverWinter storyline and put it into an MMO. Hence the based upon. However they haven't even come close to adding in the RP functionality that was present in NWN.
This game is labeled as an MMORPG, it isn't Neverwinter Nights 3. Stop making false assumptions and confusing people.
There are currently ways to customize, though the options are limited. You can equip GWF with weapons that aren't Claymores (there are clubs, axes, etc... Most are either from drops or purchasable for AD).
I am game for any improvements to enhance our RP experience, but let's not incurr in falacies (like saying this game should be like X because I have certain expectations of what this game should be like and not what it is).
- Titania Silverblade, the Iron Rose of Myth Drannor (Lvl 60 GWF, Destroyer)
- Gwyneth, the Cowardly Cat Burglar Drowling (Lvl 60 TR, Saboteur)
- Lady Rowanne Firehair, Heartwarder of Sune (Lvl 33 DC)
- Satella, Sensate (LvL 44 CW, Renegade, Non-Active)
Check Steppenkat's Foundry Quest Reviews!
And that's the screwed up part; its based on DnD, you SHOULD expect things. You SHOULD expect there to be DnD rulesets in place and not a game that claims to be "based on" that is just another game with DnD title slapped on it. The game, IMO based on vast experience, wont go far like this. Its trying too hard to be a WoW contender instead of attempting to be something great.
Skyrim is an epic roleplaying adventure. The b@stards at Bethesda must've stolen NWN franchise as well! Lol.
There is literally NO intersection between NWN story and NWO story. If you claim there is, I dare you to demonstrate it.
Vast experience? On what? Really, I think you're acting too self entitled, at least for what you think it's valid or not. And if you're going to start a WoW comparison, I'll tell you a couple of things: WoW isn't the most popular MMO, neither the most sucessful, or even the best.
Heck, D&D isn't even the best kind of game to RP. It's just a popular option, but it's really lacking in some aspects (such as the shallow alignment system, the black/white kind of dicotomy that doesn't allow for options, class/based and level/based systems...).
But let's talk about this game.
Long ago, when Cryptic took the job to develop this game, they said they were making an MMO out of it. That it was going to be based on D&D 4th edition. And they delivered. I expected a 4th edition D&D based MMO. And this is it.
And about Neverwinter Nights.
Neverwinter Nights was <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>. The vanilla game, I mean. It only had 13 classes, half of them broken because they used D&D 3.0 (Ranger was garbage). The only thing that made it enjoyable and the reason why I played it so many years was because of the private, community-developed RP servers. Not something planned by the developers, but players. Cryptic probably has a lot of NwN players and knows this: hence the Foundry. And they've told that they're planning to give it RP functionality.
- Titania Silverblade, the Iron Rose of Myth Drannor (Lvl 60 GWF, Destroyer)
- Gwyneth, the Cowardly Cat Burglar Drowling (Lvl 60 TR, Saboteur)
- Lady Rowanne Firehair, Heartwarder of Sune (Lvl 33 DC)
- Satella, Sensate (LvL 44 CW, Renegade, Non-Active)
Check Steppenkat's Foundry Quest Reviews!
.... Someone hasn't read the storyline/lore ingame.
I never remember anywhere that someone with heavy armor and 8 dex can just dodge willie nillie against attacks. That you can constantly keep using spells all the time without rest. etc etc.
Where have they claimed they would introduce RP functionality? I wont hold my breath on Cryptic promises.
There was a post around (not sure where it is) that claimed different numbers. WoW is indeed a good MMORPG, though I doubt that its the most sucessful, specially after WotLK. From what I've know, most people are turning towards the FtP market as few are willing to pay a forced suscription to experience the same thing after more than 7 years, being able to get content for free access.
I fail to see how does any FPS experience has to do with RP. I could also tell you a game that's currently more played than WoW then, and it's not even an MMORPG. But again, we're talking about RP, right? Then that argument is biased. You need to compare things in equal grounds: your complaint comes from not being able to experience RP in a game, and... you don't play an FPS to experience that.
The only character class that can use Heavy Armor in this game is the GF and they don't have a dodge mechanic. Mail is about 4 AC and it allows for a Dex bonus. Also, you don't need to have 16 Dex to know how to dodge: those mechanics are usually represented as Feats (Spring Attack, Mobility, Dodge...) Yes, most require 13 Dex in most editions, but again, this is not PnP and it doesn't need to be a literal translation. I fail to see where scores should dictate 100% your RP.
Just check the podcasts. If giving players ability to make their own instances and houses, towns, cities, etc, isn't giving RP functionality... Heck, I'd like to know what it is.
- Titania Silverblade, the Iron Rose of Myth Drannor (Lvl 60 GWF, Destroyer)
- Gwyneth, the Cowardly Cat Burglar Drowling (Lvl 60 TR, Saboteur)
- Lady Rowanne Firehair, Heartwarder of Sune (Lvl 33 DC)
- Satella, Sensate (LvL 44 CW, Renegade, Non-Active)
Check Steppenkat's Foundry Quest Reviews!
I'm a strict DnD nutcase, so pardon my biased outlook on how something based on DnD should operate.
An instance that people have to search for... lol. Oh god.
I've tired the foundry and I'm upset. I was attempting to recreate the server known as Wrydwood Forest but alas; the maps don't off the kind of dense woodlands that NWN did.