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gankdalf
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The mounts you buy with real money is making PVP really boring. Speed in this game is really relevant and allowing players with bought mounts with 110% speed or whatever is a bad decision. They reach the flags faster, you cant run away or chase them down.
Is it just me or does anyone agree with me?
Is it just me or does anyone agree with me?
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We do enjoy it due to how lazy the human race has become, but it still should not be allowed in pvp.
played with and against ppl which had spider mount(seems pretty fast) and didnt see big difference
(i have +50% speed horse)
Everything else is to give you an edge/save you time when fighting virtual monsters, this is the only aspect that actually gives you a benefit over other players. Before you guys reply with a bunch of "but this whole game is p2w!!!" non-sense : you're wasting your breath.
PVP is 100% pay to win. Buy zen, trade for AD, gear up in the AH (possibly by buying from and supporting the pvp gear afk bots), and that is not pay to win?
There are a couple of things i need to say about this
things that could be done against it:
- remove mounts
- set a limit to maximal mount movement speed that normal mounts also can make
- make gamemodes that do not set a big emphasis on running/moving from point to point to
reasons:
simply a tactical team will always have an advantage moving between points with a faster mount
things that can fix it without changing anything:
in time people will get more diamonds, buy the mount manuals and have equal speeds
Elf Control Wizard - Dragon
Oh it takes a long time? It's FREE
I'd call that "pay to skip the gear grinding".
Mounts are, however, annoying. I agree that there should be some more limitations.
It is more than simply capping faster, it is also about escaping (since you can summon a mount in 0.1 sec), and you can't chase with a lower speed mount, the difference is enough to put one out of spell range faster than cooldowns come up. And they eliminate valuable seconds in battle (you get 30% faster into battles, and those 2-3 extra seconds can mean the world in some fights).
wow: buy gold from goldseller/ other player, buy purple max lvl gear
gw2: buy gems, change them to gold, buy gear
rift: buy currency, change for normal currency, buy gear'
etc. etc. etc.
this is possible at every single game ive ever played.
Yes.. i would agree that PvP gear needs to be characterbound. BUT you dont have a full gearset by just doing PvP and the gear is not even close to being strong compared to endgame raid gear so the advantage will be only over really weakgeared.. and even those can kill you if they are simply better then you
Elf Control Wizard - Dragon
I thought you could grind/buy better mounts with AD & gold? Not the spider, of course, but better than the 50% mount?
^^^^^ endgame gear (the best stuff) pvp gear or not is also found in the AH. See the 10000000 posts on ninja looters selling epic gear. The bottom line is you can still pay to buy a set of the best stuff available since nothing significant is BOA, and you can do it legit (via PWE) instead of needing 3rd party gold sellers which are risky.
It's only 2m AD.
Only...
That's one of the reasons I purchased the guardian pack.
I agree with this post and it's suggestions for improving it. PvP is altered completely when there is a spider mount present.
Gear tier brackets for level 60 pvp would be nice also.
How is doing something against the ToS P2W? I'm talking WoW only here, the others do have in-game purchasable gear, and I won't go into whether any of those are P2W or not, but saying that buying gold from a gold seller is P2W? That pretty much invalidates anything that follows...
Or if lazy bue some founder pack or zen or from ah with AD but stop useless threads like this.
So spend irl money if want get mount fast and support game developers.
or just spend you time as its f2p and farm farm AD to get your epic mount.
no its not p2w because you can get the mounts to the same speed by playing the game for free
lol 3000 zen for 110% mount... currently 3000 zen = roughly 1,150,000 astral diamonds.. 850k difference from the 2mil you say is required....
Only...
spend the time or pay the money.. either one gets you that slight advantage you guys think is so detrimental.. Regardless of whether I can catch you on a 50% mount or not, I know where you're going and will just face roll you when I catch up.. 110% speed isn't going to change the fact that 98% of you crying about it are terrible at pvp in general.
You can get a set of purples after to playing Pvp for one day. Gearing up in pvp is so easy its not funny especially if a event is on. Hardly pay to win in that regard.
The set of purple pvp gear sucks compared to T2 epic sets or better. If you are wearing the pvp set and go up against another with T2 epic set, you will get rocked unless the other guy just sucks.
If you buy Zen, you can easily exchange into astral diamonds and buy a full t2 set from the AH.
The game is very pay to win but thats what we've all come to expect from pwe games so no surprise there.
People saying its not p2w are just oblivious. yea you can get SOME of the stuff from in game at an absurdly disgustingly ridiculously slow and tedious rate. Honestly though who is gonna play this game that long, certainly not I.
No, you can get nightmare from AH with 900k. Bad troll, no grasp of reality.
In general:
And seriously, game needs money, mount is small advantage that is easiest to get with real money. If you like the game, how about investing the $40 in it? And if you don't like it, why not just stop complaining what you get for a free tasters.
I do agree PvP should never be about who has the biggest wallet, but every successful F2P I've seen has had small P2W money grabs. The trick is to make those quite minor, but still clearly effective. Mounts are just that, and as an account unlock, not the worst investment anyway. Now I'm not fully against mountless PvP, but they do not certainly break it either. My solution would be random rule at the start of the match, sometimes mounts are allowed, sometimes not. As it would call bit different tactics and lend to variety.
That's literally less than a tier piece from T2 DD.