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Make Mad Dragon Tier 2 or tune it down..
eenddd
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Title says it all. The Mad Dragon fight is just rediculous at the end. 3 healing adds, giant non CC'able pixel and random spawning imps together with the stunning casters. All together its just too much for an avarage pug group.
Don't get me wrong, I just completed it 2 times, but needed 2 healers
. I'll suppose i gotta farm it fast before the double AS gets fixed.
Don't get me wrong, I just completed it 2 times, but needed 2 healers
. I'll suppose i gotta farm it fast before the double AS gets fixed. Post edited by eenddd on
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No offence but all i have to say is L2P. You double shields cheese mode aint working here. Mad dragon is one of the most exciting boss encounter, you need a good GF know what he is doing and 1 DC is more then enough. I have done this dungeon many many times with PUGs mixed with all sort of different class combinations.
may people who use the L2P term should be told DDTUD= Dude Dont talk U Dumb!
Tuning thats a fine word , one that cryptic is overlooking atm. every patch that has came out is the size of a post it note with lame excuses on why its that short.
i would not hold my breathe though ! Class Balancing it the last thing on there mind and dungeon balancing has not even made the board of things to do yet. just enjoy needing certain specs/classes to win and just sit back and enjoy those fights that you may be banned for, because you exploited them to win.
either way Cryptic has your money , its their money now! your problems with Cryptic will never be theirs... remember that
L2P doesn't even come close to the mark on most of the things it is mindlessly applied to.
First time i was there with my GF in BW3(agro was broken, not sure but think all game was harder) 2wipes but third time we killed it.
(funny thing on third attempt almost every1 was out of pots)
Did mad dragon and idrich(dungeon after dragon) without healer(another funny thing inside Idrich 1 CW told us "no healer lets quit before last boss" he quit and we killed it anyway).
Its not about L2P but "learn to read".
During lvling my other chars before boss i always write "kill adds or push them from edges as fast as you can" and "focus on elites"
in 20-30% ppl knew it or listen to me and no or little problems, rest of times its wipe and ppl start quit.
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Sadly, it applies here.
This one of the bosses where 2 cleric cheese won't cut it.
Its a friggin DRAGON, most ferocious and fearsome thing in D&D lore, it won't be made any easier nor should it.
A dragon. With adds. Lots of adds.
its supposed to be hard!
but i dont get the fact that a dragon needs to be protected by imps
I agree though this should be a 8500 GS fight on top of that I think all T2 should be moved to 8700 GS. 8300 is just too low.
One CW died about 2 minutes into encounter, was able to finish him off as a 4man.
2 of the 5 were just above 6800 GS (I know because they were guildies).
Rest of the thread is people who can't read telling him to l2p for saying a fact- that the dragon is harder than anything else in t1.
I agree with the OP- make the dragon a t2 boss, up levels accordingly for dragon and monsters in the dungeon. It's one of the most challenging bosses pre-endgame to begin with, it should be put in the t2 category and adjusted accordingly.
Err, I mean. Grunt durr grunt l2p nub, hrngg y it hurt 2 tink?
It's a DRAGON. If you know anything about D&D rules, you should know what does dragon means here, it supposed to be hard, but with people who can play their class and wiling to work together, it's a very easy boss, that's why is T1 but hardest T1. I'm a GF myself and I did this many many times with different PUGs, GF keep the dragon in place away from the rest of group, the other 4 kill the adds and dps boss when adds are down, easier then most of T2s. You need a good GF who can stay on the boss and position it right and deal with imps at the same time. Most importantly, 2DC cheese mode aint working here which produced lots of brainless players who never dodge or move out of red and dont know how to use their class properly.
Yes, it's a dragon.
But it's not the dragon that people say is hard, but the adds that it summons.
I'm a DC and I had 2 failed runs unable to beat dragon with no GF. I had either 2 TR or 2 GWF, Havnt tried 2 CW in group and btw this is pug groups I'm talking about.
I can only finish it if I got a GF in group.
This.
Have a CW as the only damage on the dragon. The entire rest of the group fights the adds.
Just keep an eye on the CW. If he picks up some imps or Fire Magus clear them as fast as possible and get back to the adds.
A skilled CW will never even get touched by the Dragon, his only problem the whole fight is picking up some adds.
What you have to realize is the thing that kills everyone are the imps. The reason red circles kill everyone is because the imps snare people and stop them from getting away from the circles. The imps also do a ton of dmg from basic attacks. So keep them off the cleric.
A good gf that knows what he's doing - hahahahaha , you mean stand in the other corner of the room and turn the boss away from the party . This involves lots of thought and skill . get the fk out of here .
Exactly it's a frakking dragon it shouldn't need 8999 waves of frakking mobs. Some people might need to "Learn to Play" but some people, and I don't mean you xanos, need to "Learn to Post" and others need to "Learn to Program" better. *cough devs cough*
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