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So losing glory got nerfed
chronomancer
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1,223
So the glory for the side losing in the pvp got nerfed from 350 to 140. Good. Now fixed the **** bugged pvp queue that is preventing ppl from joining the pvp and it's all good. Every battle I've joined it seems 1 or 2 people can't join the fight for some reason and it ends up with loop sided battle.
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Oh cool, even less of a reason to pvp on any new character after 4 matches for AD.
Adjusting rewards without touching class balancing is so awesome it hurts.
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I know you can fix it for dungeons by leaving your current map and clicking the "return to previous map" button. Never tried it for pvp.
Im asking because I never get more than 150, because Im a dedicated healer/buffer. And since Cryptic doesnt recognize support to be a valuable asset in pvp, Im always last in points.
Exactly. Why not make it so you have to score X points, or no reward. Instead we got this... Cryptic do you even understand how PvP works in your game?
If the marginal gain that encompasses winning a PvP match is inferior to its cost, then people will consider that losing is an acceptable reward.
If you gain 700 glory per win, but winning takes most of the time a 15 minutes game, while you can lose in 3-4 minutes and gain 350 glory:
- 2 losses gain you the same glory as a win. However, you save a cost by taking this decision, which is saving time.
So yes, a good solution is to nerf the consolation prize for losing. When I tried PvP I found it absurdly high, even though I take the PvP here too casually and I don't even do it for the dailies. If you nerf the losing reward to half, lets say 150 glory, then it would take 5 losses to equate a win ( 20 minutes at least for 4 minute-matches). Now you would have an incentive to tryhard and do your best.
Communism destroys competivity since it removes the incentive to do more than the bare minumum. :P
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This is an open beta. Start treating it like one.
They made it longer for you to AFK farm gear. Go cry somewhere else.
You still have the incentive of winning and being able to sell PvP items you can purchase with your farmed Glory. Actually, this would make PvP items more valuable as they would become harder to get (since now there is a substancial grinding speed difference).
The only reason that I find for people defending the huge glory gains for losing is that they just want to PvP a few times with a character then quit forever, or just exploit the fact that it's so easy to grind for items. I tried to get a PvP Greatsword for my GWF and got it in a single afternoon. It just takes timing to get into an Arena PvP happy hour and off you go. I lost 6 of the 8 PvP matches I played (a mixture of sucking hard, being extremely undergeared and having 3 AFKs in some games).
- Titania Silverblade, the Iron Rose of Myth Drannor (Lvl 60 GWF, Destroyer)
- Gwyneth, the Cowardly Cat Burglar Drowling (Lvl 60 TR, Saboteur)
- Lady Rowanne Firehair, Heartwarder of Sune (Lvl 33 DC)
- Satella, Sensate (LvL 44 CW, Renegade, Non-Active)
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The problems is not with the glory for the losing team. The problem is that afk people get more than 0 glory.
They should give glory to losing teams if they played (score > 0) and give ZERO glory to ones having a score of 0. If you stay afk, your score will be 0
Your reasoning is flawed because I play PvP to win and enjoy. Not because of lousy rewards for losers.
This is an open beta. Start treating it like one.