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They have cc with (what seems like an age long) silence. They can go invisible they can dodge some spells if they're good. They have what seems like the highest single target burst damage. They have rather better defense than CW (just judging from the way I deal damage to TR vs CW).
Idk but to me it seems at least one of these things should be nerfed for PvP? Maybe make the silence shorter, a good TR will sneak up on you invis deal huge damage, then silence you before you can cc him and kill you while you are still silenced.
Too much of PvP (at least that I play) are 1 v 1 battles, even when you fight 2 v 2 or something the other guy on your team is very unlikely to help you kill the rogue that jumps on you.
I mean a GWF is also very strong I feel in a 1 v 1 situation and I often think oh **** that if one manages to get close to me, but they are nowhere near as annoying as TR.
Idk but to me it seems at least one of these things should be nerfed for PvP? Maybe make the silence shorter, a good TR will sneak up on you invis deal huge damage, then silence you before you can cc him and kill you while you are still silenced.
Too much of PvP (at least that I play) are 1 v 1 battles, even when you fight 2 v 2 or something the other guy on your team is very unlikely to help you kill the rogue that jumps on you.
I mean a GWF is also very strong I feel in a 1 v 1 situation and I often think oh **** that if one manages to get close to me, but they are nowhere near as annoying as TR.
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We should make it so that the TR can't go invisible (because that is unfair to the people who want to see them) and we should arm them with plastic swords and potato chip armour.
Being damaged decreases our Stealth significantly as well, so pop an AoE when you know a Rogue is around. We'll do our best to avoid your red circle of doom.
The game doesn't need anymore nerfs. For one I believe, (forgive me for sidetracking a bit) fervently, that GWF's need some serious buffing. Just get them back to how they were, if possible. CW's are super control-y anyway, to the point of being scary.
You are not helping out with halfarsed comment like that..
Although i would like to add few things that are groundbreaking in PvP.
Rogues have rather unfair advantage by staying in stealth even after their initial hit (which in turn dishes out rather ridiculous amount of damage to any player who is unaware of their location).
They also seem to posses some kind of immunity to stun or knockback (whether glitch or by game design i don't know) even if it was a clean hit.
And we are most certainly not immune to stun or knockback. I can no longer count the many times I've been afflicted by those things and got into trouble thanks to them. CW stun via force choke with a GWF on your back, GG. Won't bother getting out of that one unless I have Stealth.
When we have Stealth on, we are strong. When we don't have Stealth on, we're subject to your mercy.
or
throw daggers -> enemy at 50% -> just simply one shot with a nice crit = dead
or
throw daggers -> enemy at 50% -> wait -> repeat -> dead
you cant tell me rogue isnt OP as ****
nerf silence to like 2seconds and let those daggers break stealth.
impossible to catch is not a glitch if you pop it while in stealth you become immune to all dmg for a short time too. we have only 1 attack we can do that does not drp us out of stealth and it's terrible low dmg.
getting killed by throwing daggers nuff said you must be in all greens against a rouge in full pvp or t1-2 if your getting killed by them your doing it wrong
and yes i am a TR
getting killed by throwing daggers nuff said you must be in all greens against a rouge in full pvp or t1-2 if your getting killed by them your doing it wrong
and yes i am a TR
getting killed by throwing daggers nuff said you must be in all greens against a rouge in full pvp or t1-2 if your getting killed by them your doing it wrong
and yes i am a TR
Ive seen so many noobs complaining about how OP others are (and therefor their class is ofc OP in their opinion) simply cause they suck, have HAMSTER gear and they thn wonder how the fk some1 with much better gear/skill 1 or 2 hit them.
Also about daily powers... thts why its called a HAMSTER daily.. to kick ***. Its not something u can do every few secs like normal skills, get used to it. I havent played CW but i think from all classes CWs rechage AP fastest since everytime i meet one in battle he has daily up too, TRs dont have it tht fast for example.
TRs are all about surprising target with burst dmg and hoping to get the kill, otherwise we are HAMSTER. Out in the open TRs not that much of a threat for any decent player, esp for CWs.
Bottom line is : learn to play better instead of crying about others being OP, ull never learn **** with tht attitude.
As a rogue, I always have trouble with Control Wizards, Great Weapon Fighters, Devoted Clerics and Guardian Fighters. Each class has their perks as well as their drawbacks. Regardless, of the advantages and disadvantages, balancing PvP in theory is a concept that is calculated by more than one aspect of the entire Player versus Player structure. A player’s skill and experience in the battlefield is a major factor that can determine whether or not that player will end up being fodder for the enemy, or a dominating force out there on the battlefield. Also, the use of any third party software or even a player’s internet connection can improve a team’s chances of winning or losing.
Yes, my first character was a TR, and then I leveled a CW, and I can say from experience, the CW is more OP than TR hands down. Both classes have a huge 1 click damage ability, yet the CW can do his from Siberia, whereas the TR has to be up close and personal. The CW has the best dodge in the game, and the most CC. Sure if you let a TR get up close and personal, he is most likely gonna kill you(that is what they are designed to do). Yet the CW can just stand flat footed and take you out without even breaking a sweat and are the easiest class to escape from battle when set upon.
Really sad that this game is in OB and loser players are already calling for nerf's without having a clue about all the different class mechanics in game. No doubt, the flow of tears is already working on getting yet another MMO ruined in it's infancy, because of these brainless twits.
Allowing players to join a match at any time during the game will help to decrease the number of unbalanced 2v5, 3v5, 4v5 matches. Just some food for thought.
Play your class with skill and you'll be fine.
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Still I wish the pvp would be more balanced for actual back and forth instead of who opens on whom.
Also i pretty much understand the concept of a rogue so i don't have to play it (and i gave a pretty much valid concept regarding stealth since it is rather pointless keeping stealth up even during initial attack...so i pretty much expect at least some valid reply on any of this matters).
P.S Any further comments that is halfarsed (Eg. l2p your class trololo etc.) and without any legit suggestion/reply ...i won't waste my time giving any further replies in order to avoid flaming this topic any further(it is waste of my breath and time to such level of shallow thinking anyhow).
1. CW, GF, GWF, and Cleric have a burst damage that is almost in par with TR's Shocking Executioner (A daily) if they decide to spec for it.
2. TR's only form of CC is daze and it's not even a true CC. You can still MOVE while dazed. (Learn to press WASD)
3. Stealth does not last more than 6 seconds if you spec for burst damage. If you spec for longer Stealth, you lose burst damage.
You want broken? The Cleric Blue Shield is broken because the only counter to that is to have 5 people jump on the cleric, but they just revive and come back and do it again. Having 5 people to jump any class to just be able to kill them is ludicrous.
CW are not broken. GWF are not broken. TR are not broken. GF is kind of broken with their high burst damage with high mitigation. Cleric is beyond broken with the blue shield.
2. Clerics shield is the only truly OP thing in the game.
3. CW is really hard for TR to kill if ur getting killed by TR constantly ur doing something very wrong.
4. GWF needs buff.
Good day to you all.
Rose - Control Wizard
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Yeah because all the TRs are pro players who would play good with any class but went with TR right? So they own cause they are pro ? And all the rest playing the rest of the classes are noobs and badies.Every time i see TRs in arena they are always the top of the chart. So that's why TR is this good atm ? Good to know.
If you know how and what to dodge a TR is never a problem for anyone....... I am a TR and never lsoe to other tr's because they are easy to killits liek Im the only person in this game that knows that. play one and you will find out all thier weakness's