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ro7shadow
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Seriously this loot system is just stupid.
First off people cry all the time that someone NINJA'ed something that belongs to no one in fact everybody run dungeons and the game mechanic allow to roll for everybody so everybody may have a equal chance to get whatever item there is.
Now how can you ninja something that belongs to no one and for fck sake it is rolled randomly -.- Everybody should have the same right to loot or depending on their dmg/healing done I'm tired of people crying about this all the time. I can pass on 99% of items but when I really need something and choose NEED and people start cry about this I simply start to hate playing with random people. Crying threatening, spamming then acting like child, because ohh someone have rolled on the item and what's WORSE he won it. I have already seen so many joke hipocrytes that choose need even they technically don't need the item they will sell it anyway but when anybody else roll on it they start a spam war -.-
Better to make a random system that gives everybody one choice and random reward than this BS that only make people cry all the time over few pixels.
First off people cry all the time that someone NINJA'ed something that belongs to no one in fact everybody run dungeons and the game mechanic allow to roll for everybody so everybody may have a equal chance to get whatever item there is.
Now how can you ninja something that belongs to no one and for fck sake it is rolled randomly -.- Everybody should have the same right to loot or depending on their dmg/healing done I'm tired of people crying about this all the time. I can pass on 99% of items but when I really need something and choose NEED and people start cry about this I simply start to hate playing with random people. Crying threatening, spamming then acting like child, because ohh someone have rolled on the item and what's WORSE he won it. I have already seen so many joke hipocrytes that choose need even they technically don't need the item they will sell it anyway but when anybody else roll on it they start a spam war -.-
Better to make a random system that gives everybody one choice and random reward than this BS that only make people cry all the time over few pixels.
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MAKE THREATENING RUSH A 2-3 SECOND TAUNT THAT STILL MARKS THE SAME WAY.
REMOVE HEALING AGGRO.
then what is the point of the que system then?
Not everyone wants to be in a guild. Not every guild has folks on all the times to do runs at all times. And not everyone gets upset over loot etiquette in PUGs.
Greed encourages greed.
the problem you have is the player not the game lol. your not going to find nice loving people all the time
on the internet and mmorpg people think they can be mean because no one know what they look like
People will always take advantage of that system to avoid spending money. If the AH catastrophe made something clear its that there is a market here for people that will spend more money in two weeks that i have spent 1 year being subscribed in another game.
he can also change it to where he decides who gets what...so this is really only if you're going in with pre-formed groups in which case the OP's point is invalid anyways.
MAKE THREATENING RUSH A 2-3 SECOND TAUNT THAT STILL MARKS THE SAME WAY.
REMOVE HEALING AGGRO.
Frankly i hate the delve system.. its such a HAMSTER tease.. esp when running t2 stuff. I've gotten only t1 junk(and i mean junk) that is pretty much only good for vendoring especially in this currently messed up economy. Granted the AH is still down but i doubt anything below t2 will still sell for anything at all. I'd rather not have it, have bop loot, and a few other things that most likely never happen in f2p.
it is a respect thing some people have it though and others don't, such is life
Edit: I should point out that by the last boss since I had been most vocal about him rolling NEED on EVERYTHING I quit getting heals I had to rely on cleric companion and pots but I don't care and 90% of the time was first one over when adds spawned and went for him, so I might have gotten one or two sun bursts but only cause he was trying to DPS them
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This is an open beta. Start treating it like one.
That's a proven winning approach in more than one game. It might also be sufficient -- not to mention logical -- if you could only roll greed or pass on items that are unusable by your class. There is no situation in which my GF needs anything that says it requires some other class. If someone who can't use it wants it just so they can sell it, well that's the very definition of greed.
The bottom line is people will do whatever they can get away with. You have to expect scum. So either the system changes to wipe away some of the scummy behavior, or the system stays the same and implicitly encourages and rewards scum.
What are you on about ? The very first sentence that people are crying over items which belong to nobody. The whole point is that if a CW item drops and CW in group needs it. Then a GF needs it and wins this isn't right. Class specific items should go to the classes they are intended for.
EDIT: And yes i agree having seperate loot for everyone is the best approach. It worked very well in D3
PS: I usually take "need", but if other want it I gave it, no big deal, or after the last boss I ask if anyone want to do trade or something. like I'm saying sometime you win, sometime you lose. this is Multiplayer Game, not Singularity Game
So basicly I'm just saying - deal with it , or join some carebear guild .
This is the problem right here. People like you think it`s ok to gear your alt from whatever character you are playing. Nevermind that you are stabbing in the back other people in the group that will actually use it on the class they just ran the dungeon with. You want gear for your alt, go play your alt and run him through a dungeon for the drops. I lost a guardian shield roll to a cleric a few days ago because for some reason he decided to roll need. I didn`t bother to ask why he did it or complain about it, I rightclicked his name and selected ignore.
Just looking at what you wrote tells me that you only care about how much you can make for yourself no matter what it does to others. It`s really a shame the games we like to play always have people with your way of thinking that ruins it for everyone else.
Ohh and btw a carebear guild is a guild that doesn`t do pvp. Should probably learn what the mmo terms mean before slinging them around tryin to look cool. Unless if for reason in the past 10-15 years the meaning of carebear has somehow changed to something else and I wasn`t informed.
I agree with everything you say but we're swimming against the game-design tide. You might as well bite the bullet and accept the fact that the game is set up to funnel gear to the AH so people need to buy Zen to convert to AD to buy it. It's sad but if you're not Needing on everything in pug you're just handicapping yourself (unless there is an pre-agreement in place to only Need on stuff you can use).
I'd love a full set of loot options but they aren't there and I bet they're not coming. You might as well Need along with the rest and sell it in the AH to buy what you can use.
I don`t feel that rolling need like everyone else will address this issue. I feel it only adds to the problem. It has been posted in another thread that they are looking into improving the loot system so if we keep making our voices heard, it will get addressed . I can`t bring myself to roll need on something I can`t equip. I wouldn`t want it done to me, even though it has been countless times. So I wouldn`t want to do it to someone else. I know I m bending myself over with this way of thinking but I shouldn`t have to resort to HAMSTER people over to get ahead in a video game where teamwork is supposed to be the factor for success.
This is an open beta. Start treating it like one.
If I do not get this insight from someone else, he is soon on my ignorelist. And second, I leave the group behind. Why should I go around with someone like that? I do not speak with random people on the street, too.
I cannot await that the partyleader kicks that player, so I go. Simple as that. I can only decide, what I do, not what others should do.