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Cryptic please do not listen to the forum whining vocal minority
eazydzzz
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 65
Most people playing couldn't care less about a virtual economy in a video game, they just want to play the game. The pathetic whiners here will forget about it in a few weeks as soon as they find some other 1st world problem to rage and complain about.
A full wipe would probably be the dumbest thing you could possibly do (as you are most certainly aware ).
The vast majority don't really understand or care about what happened with the AH, again they just want to play the game. Erasing everyone's progress completely will drive away so many more people than it would save that it's unthinkable to even consider a full wipe.
If a few spoiled brats (like the ones who pollute these forums) end up leaving because there is no wipe, the game's community will be all the better with their absence.
A full wipe would probably be the dumbest thing you could possibly do (as you are most certainly aware ).
The vast majority don't really understand or care about what happened with the AH, again they just want to play the game. Erasing everyone's progress completely will drive away so many more people than it would save that it's unthinkable to even consider a full wipe.
If a few spoiled brats (like the ones who pollute these forums) end up leaving because there is no wipe, the game's community will be all the better with their absence.
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Too much truth on this OP, keep it coming.
Shut up. You are just another completely clueless fanboi idiot.
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No one cares what you think ******. Go post in the Hello Kitty forums.
I love it when people who don't have a valid argument resort to name calling #itisasadworld
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If you ignore them they get even more pissed, as in sending you PMs and adding you ingame... so much hate
AMEN
to the post title. (thought the body seemed as if it was just MOTS.)
I'm so busy Playing and Enjoying the game, there's not been that much time to hang out on the forums - when I DO come here and 'check in' it seems like there is a WHOLE lot of hate for a game that I'm loving when I'm playing it.
anyway - I am quite enjoying playing the game, and will now leave this scary place they call the 'forums' and go back to my imaginary world where I am a conquering hero!
thanks CRYPTIC for this awesome game! I'm loving it!
zWolf / Wesgar
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Yes, please do basically nothing so people can already be selling the item the exploiters were selling to hide their misdeeds. So they can already be laughing that they will have their primary account back in 72 hours and be back out in front of everyone else economically.
The vast majority of us are too stupid or lazy or a combo of the two to understand an economy and how devistating what has been done can be and have no real desire to be on a level playing field as were not on one in real life. Leveling the field as should be thought of as a possiblity in a beat should be removed as I dont want to give up my time I'm clearly far too important for matters like game balance.
If the people screaming for a logical solution even if its extreme, who (me) love this game leave because a less than logical and less than effective solution is being taken then all the better terrible games are best without people who wanted the game they held high hopes for rather than the disaster they got.
There are always a few special snowflakes out there. It's one reason WoW stayed away from hosting official forums. There will always be howlers, and screamers, that will, if ignored, will gradually increase font size, and color brightness to make sure everyone hears them.
Give them a month or two, and they will be reduced to making posts about the next, and latest upcoming MMORPG that will totally kill PWE! I've been around this block a few times...and honestly, PW needs to moderate their forums, or the Wine and Gripe fest will do more to damage the game than any exploit.
Some things are just easy too hate
a wipe was not the right call. they should have done what valve did in TF2 with the halo hats.
Also many of those that go to those "sites." are people that want the wipe. They're simply the loud minority. The economy is fine. I keep saying that people laugh at this statement but I challenge them to list items that are worth way more than the zen equivalents or explain what exactly is so valued for the time it takes to farm the astrals. No one can do it. No one can explain to me how before this big explosion the economy is bad. Even epics are reasonably priced. Priced well enough that even casuals can afford to buy them from simply doing dailies. Let alone actually putting stuff up from the epic dungeons as well.
The major exploit is gone. The economy is fine.
Have to say that I was real surprised with the comments from people that wanted a server wipe, but then maybe they were coming from the same people ( Exploiters ) who wanted Cryptic to get rid of any evidence that could be used against them.
I'm sure that Cryptic will get all those responsible albeit in time but they will be dealt with I have no illusions on that.
I remember watching a bone-heads video of himself rocketing through traffic on a highway on his crotch-rocket, he to thought just because he posted a video with no visible info of who he was that he wouldn't get found, but in the electronic age, there are always better cyber-hound dogs.
Oh... I'm sure people think they got away with something, I just hope that when the bell tolls, Cryptic/PW give the NWO supporters a link to read/watch to keep us in " The Loop "
Cheers! All
P.S. A small reminder to the people of Cryptic/PW you have a good forum here PLEASE!!!! don't make me go to some other page to find out info on downed servers or major issues that concern NWO. When I click my shortcut for NWO it opens the NWO client, not Twitter, Google, Facebook nor FireFox.
So why the heck would you want supporters of NWO to go anywhere else but NWO forums to get the info they need. For me I would much rather have a server down for several days and fix the issue(s) then to go into a dungeon, dreading the thought " Am I going to get through this without the server going down, and have to do it all over the next day ? "
Deal with the issues the best you can, and for me..... take all the time you need, but what-ever time is needed and why....... Just keep me informed, and don't pull a multi hour down sever and then post a one line ( not even a full sentence ) bug fix/reason.
Anyway thx for the fun so far, I'll still be here when the smoke settles as I'm sure all the true supporters of NWO will be as well.
Cheers!
" May The Wind be Always At Your Back "
This isn't going to be a criminal case.
Why is it so hard to believe that many good players simply don't want to have to play with others that cheat? You play board games where some steal money from the bank while you sit there and play rule for rule? I find it not surprising at all that a lot of good players want nothing to do with a player base that has cheaters amongst them, seemingly pardoned. Even if it isn't a huge direct effect to them, PRINCIPAL alone is enough.
Make that two. My AD hasn't devalued a bit, because I don't use the exchange. If I want zen, I buy it from the website and use it on store items.
I use ingame AD for ingame vendor purchases. Scrolls and the like. Partial respecs. Haven't spent a single AD on the market, and I'm having a blast.
Tell you what. Every single person screaming for a wipe, I've got your solution.
Delete all your characters, which is equivalent of a total reset. Then uninstall the game. THERE is your wipe.
Occam's Razor makes the cutting clean.
Haha.....that's just mean.
Even without zen to AD xfer, your AD still has a value. And that value is significantly less because of this exploit. The damage was not reversed, it merely stopped the bleeding. The economy still has no leg, it's just not getting worse. If your AD was previously worth 1/ 1,500,000 of a heavy nightmare mount and is now worth only 1 / 900,000 ....your AD has lost value. Economy directly correlates to longevity of a game. Without a good economy, an MMO will not last long. We care and would like to see this game be as good as it possibly can. One way of doing that is to actually utilize the open beta to fix mistakes, not just to be a soft release and hide behind it when bugs come around. Either call it a beta and be willing to lose your progress if game breaking exploits come around, or call it release and demand a polished product.
I love NW, I want to see NW last for a very long time. I do not want the economy to become so inflated that a key costs an absurd amount of AD in the future. I would welcome a wipe, get the exploited currency out of the game. They say they have banned the accounts participating, but the currency was circulated. More AD is currently in existence than should be, even with the bans. That leads to an accelerated inflation. Which is bad, just so ya know.
Thank you, Cryptic.
P.S, Fix threat. Thanks!
99% of threads are just complaints from players who are angry at the game they aren't playing, while the majority of players who do enjoy the game are too busy playing so they can't come on these forums to defend the game devs or write about how they love the game. Or even worst, whenever those kinda players do come on the forums to write something positive, it gets bumped to the 2nd page by all the complaints or the trolls reply with insults and drive them away.
Threat is fine , l2p thanks
Much like a neutered dog, you just don't get it, do you?
My AD has lost no value whatsoever to me. All I use it for is the occasional ID scoll purchase or perhaps save up enough to do a feat respec. THAT'S IT. THAT IS THE ONLY "VALUE" I ASCRIBE TO ASTRAL DIAMONDS. Vendor purchase only. I don't market. I don't exchange. How in Hades' name are things that I never use and never will suddenly ascribed value to me?
Nothing any exploiter can do can make the "value" to me lessen. Unless they actually get in the coding and increase vendor prices for those services/items.
Here. I'll even try to explain it simpler. It's like Monopoly money to me. Only useful in the game. I would never try to exchange it for real world money, or waste my precious earnings on it. To find that others are that...gullible......to do so is a source of infinite amusement to me. Especially when they complain about it.
And keys cost ZEN, not astral diamonds. You don't have to use AD to purchase them. Spend the buck twenty five. Every time. No devalue there, is there?
Again, I reiterate. You want a wipe? Delete your characters and uninstall the game. THERE's your wipe.
Occam's Razor makes the cutting clean.
*applaudes*
Well said. I'm so loving this game. And all those who whine about pay 2 win don't even know the definition of it. The PvP whining comes from people who have no skill and suddenly actually have to have some and not just some stupid buttonmashing.
There might be a bot issues yes, but seriously: This game is in an open Beta phase. i don't know what people expect when they are TESTING a game.
And most of them obviously have no idea of how freaking much work a MMO is to programm, maintain and fix tickets that come in in 100s.
The guys @ Cryptic r doin a fine job! and people whining why there is stuff added to the zen shop and issues haven't been fixed yet i have a really simple answer: Because those things are already done and implemente into the game and the fixed schedule said they should be added. if you don't know how programming software works, stop whining, or go read books over software developement and entreprises in the software market.
nicely said