Situation Not Averted

scorpion2112 · May 2013

Rollback hurts. No more money from me. This is NOT how you solve a problem. HotN package gave me 5 days early access to the release of the game. They took more of my money from the zen store. I busted my hump: In real life, I gave them money. In game, I spent real time. Now you're telling me I can't get either of these back?

"We assure you, no rollbacks" Unless we can profit(implied). Quack quack. "open beta" but we will take your real money and do a rollback. Quack quack. We will compensate you with something in your mailbox. Why don't they disclose what they will compensate us with? Oh, just what I wanted, another party popper. Quack quack. Ask yourself why will it be nothing of value? Appeasement. Oh my God it IS a duck!

I will continue to play the game, but not another dime. It looks like a duck and sounds like a duck. I will wait for a gaming company with a better reputation to come out for my next addiction. Too bad really. There were lots of things I liked about this game.

This game, at this rate, will never get out of "open beta"

Oh, and happy quack quack to all when the servers open.

maho4200 · May 2013

Pretty sure they never said anything about no rollbacks, they said there would be no more character wipes.

lyokira · May 2013

Servers are already open. And LOTS of MMOs have rollbacks, even after full release. If you don't want to ever have a rollback, I suggest playing non-MMOs.

gaerolth · May 2013

scorpion2112 wrote: »

Rollback hurts. No more money from me. This is NOT how you solve a problem. HotN package gave me 5 days early access to the release of the game. They took more of my money from the zen store. I busted my hump: In real life, I gave them money. In game, I spent real time. Now you're telling me I can't get either of these back?

"We assure you, no rollbacks" Unless we can profit(implied). Quack quack. "open beta" but we will take your real money and do a rollback. Quack quack. We will compensate you with something in your mailbox. Why don't they disclose what they will compensate us with? Oh, just what I wanted, another party popper. Quack quack. Ask yourself why will it be nothing of value? Appeasement. Oh my God it IS a duck!

I will continue to play the game, but not another dime. It looks like a duck and sounds like a duck. I will wait for a gaming company with a better reputation to come out for my next addiction. Too bad really. There were lots of things I liked about this game.

This game, at this rate, will never get out of "open beta"

Oh, and happy quack quack to all when the servers open.

Too much exploited astral diamonds were in the auction house due to the exploit and in the market. A roll back was absolutely necessary just be glad the drama queens didn't get their way.

khatzhas · May 2013

scorpion2112 wrote: »

"We assure you, no rollbacks"

Where did they say this?

I've seen a couple of posts claiming this but haven't been able to track down where Cryptic actually made this statement.

impervium · May 2013

gaerolth wrote: »

Too much exploited astral diamonds were in the auction house due to the exploit and in the market. A roll back was absolutely necessary just be glad the drama queens didn't get their way.

Yep. Unfortunate, but yep.

kyrosiris · May 2013

maho4200 wrote: »

Pretty sure they never said anything about no rollbacks, they said there would be no more character wipes.

Which is silly because this situation would be served 100x better by a full wipe, given that this has been going on since the word "go".

impervium · May 2013

kyrosiris wrote: »

Which is silly because this situation would be served 100x better by a full wipe, given that this has been going on since the word "go".

There will be no wipes during or after open beta.

kyrosiris · May 2013

impervium wrote: »

There will be no wipes during or after open beta.

Yes, we're well aware that PWE is really dumb with their handling of this situation.

ariusdecimus · May 2013

kyrosiris wrote: »

Yes, we're well aware that PWE is really dumb with their handling of this situation.

It may have been going on, that does not mean it was widespread or severely damaging the economy. The only reason a wipe could possibly be damaged is if the economy is in ruins. Well, before today, was the economy bearable or not?

I think we should all opt for not erasing the millions of hours of work poured into the characters of thousands of players. That's a knee-jerk reaction, and a potentially devastating one at that.

mythrildragon · May 2013

foundrymaker · May 2013

Nuff Said..

imivo · May 2013

Wee, another alleged HotN poster without the tag who will not spend any more money.

Personally, as someone who put down hundreds for the game, I'm satisfied with how they handled this and feel that the rollback was justified and needed. Had they not done it, I would have considered asking for a refund because the economy would have been shot. They did the right thing and will continue to get my business.

impervium · May 2013

ariusdecimus wrote: »

It may have been going on, that does not mean it was widespread or severely damaging the economy. The only reason a wipe could possibly be damaged is if the economy is in ruins. Well, before today, was the economy bearable or not?

I think we should all opt for not erasing the millions of hours of work poured into the characters of thousands of players. That's a knee-jerk reaction, and a potentially devastating one at that.

imivo wrote: »

Wee, another alleged HotN poster without the tag who will not spend any more money.

Personally, as someone who put down hundreds for the game, I'm satisfied with how they handled this and feel that the rollback was justified and needed. Had they not done it, I would have considered asking for a refund because the economy would have been shot. They did the right thing and will continue to get my business.

I started a Thank You thread for this.

bendouver · May 2013

ariusdecimus wrote: »

It may have been going on, that does not mean it was widespread or severely damaging the economy. The only reason a wipe could possibly be damaged is if the economy is in ruins. Well, before today, was the economy bearable or not?

I think we should all opt for not erasing the millions of hours of work poured into the characters of thousands of players. That's a knee-jerk reaction, and a potentially devastating one at that.

Ehh.. the economy IS in ruins since you see screenshots of people having 72 million! AD in there bags. Server wipe = GO!

impervium · May 2013

bendouver wrote: »

Server wipe = GO!

There will be no wipes during or after closed beta.

ariusdecimus · May 2013

bendouver wrote: »

Ehh.. the economy IS in ruins since you see screenshots of people having 72 million! AD in there bags. Server wipe = GO!

That means one person has benefited by an exploit, that doesn't mean the whole economy is in ruins. You don't destroy the work of thousands of people to try to spite a few exploiters.

imivo · May 2013

bendouver wrote: »

Ehh.. the economy IS in ruins since you see screenshots of people having 72 million! AD in there bags. Server wipe = GO!

Screenshots are just a tiny step above making random claims. The evidence will be the AD/Zen exchange rate when it comes back up. People can claim all sorts of stuff and you can't verify it (when the screenshot was taken, whether it was photoshopped, etc.). The only thing that matters is the exchange and the AH prices.

btheory · May 2013

I think all of you kiddos who think "this was the wrong way to fix it" need to go ahead and find the better way yourselves. I'm sure if you could have offered the real solution you're so sure is there, they would have implemented it in a heartbeat rather than rollback half a day's worth of exploited time.

knightfalz · May 2013

scorpion2112 wrote: »

Rollback hurts. No more money from me. This is NOT how you solve a problem. HotN package gave me 5 days early access to the release of the game. They took more of my money from the zen store. I busted my hump: In real life, I gave them money. In game, I spent real time. Now you're telling me I can't get either of these back?

Tell us how you would have fixed the problem.

"We assure you, no rollbacks" Unless we can profit(implied). Quack quack. "open beta" but we will take your real money and do a rollback. Quack quack. We will compensate you with something in your mailbox. Why don't they disclose what they will compensate us with? Oh, just what I wanted, another party popper. Quack quack. Ask yourself why will it be nothing of value? Appeasement. Oh my God it IS a duck!

They promised no wiping. A roll-back isn't a wipe.

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