Please. Send me a PM. Give me your linked in profile. I will send you mine. You will see professional Software/Electrical engineering experience dating back to 1980's. And yes, I did do this. I had to port NTLM and Kerberos authentication to Java SDK years ago. Download the Java SDK source code from Sun/Oracle and you will see my name in the C/C++ code.
Oh this is pure comedy. A full day wasted by not being able to play a game - or is it not being able to replay? Need some more grammatical accuracy there.
I'd like to thank the developers and the company for the following:
Working on a sunday
Supporting concerns in the gaming community for a free MMO while in beta
Rectifying the problem and developing an action plan
Working in software development I understand how much work it is taking to go through and review/research, update and reload. Thanks for the professionalism and the quick response and updates. It goes a long way.
If we could trade gold in the game, I'd drop a huge sack of gold on you. I kinda do wish we could use the gold, silver and copper as tradeable currency
Oh SURE....it's the COMPANY that is screwed up, not the pantywaists that are too pathetic to play the game right but have to exploit and cheat! THEY are the culprits! Get your frustration out on those that deserve it!!
Don't Mess with the Affairs of Dragons for you are Crunchy and Good with KETCHUP!!:p
Retarted? What a <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> way to spell <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>.
Okies, so I'm angry and mispelled the word, I think you would be too if you were in my position and have had to live with sick minded people that call my son names because he's different from others. I just want that picture removed because I find it offensive.
This is a very long post, from just this morning, but I'm going to post this here, for all the cry babies, that think they will quit if there is a wipe of the game. http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?18401-Neverwinter-Extended-FAQ If you go to the second post of page 1 right under this question, You'll have your answer, Will there be a character wipe before Headstart begins?
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falson1Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 135Bounty Hunter
yea keep playing on a corrupt server GG and HF, i dont give a **** if you have to work i got work to, and i spend real money on this game for i want to support a good game, but this exploit just killed the economy on all there servers big time, in fact so much that you can compare it with the big crash in the real life back in 1927, that how ****ing bad this is, and everyone are affected by this exploit, the fact that you dont get it, is lol!
Yea I will keep playing, I will also keep giving them money because its a game I enjoy. Now go cry somewhere else, I hear WOW has openings for crybabys
I would be OK with a wipe as long as I got Back all the money I have actually spent. I work alot so none of my guys are really high. But they all have Bags, Starter packs Etc... Plus I am a Founder that bought both packs. Ive invested alot in this free game. Why, because its fun and I like it. ( darn money grabbing who**s ruining my sunday ) A little more for time lost would be nice
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snappypantsMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 0Arc User
OK now you're just being silly, both of you. I can tell just by how you both word your technical explanations that neither of you should be on your high horse about this.
I am sorry, but there were quite sufficient technical explanations on both ends and it was fun to be a part of to pass the time. If you do not care for any of it that is your right to voice, but to childishly state you you can tell by the wording of such technical explanations, that there is a high horse involved, only leaves me to believe that as the end of said horse you only wish to sit or otherwise occupy your time in such fashion that I shall not mention here.
Are you guys seriously *****ing bout how long the servers are down? somtimes i wish u guys had more lives then just play video games.. its very funny seeing all the whinning for just a couple of hours out of their UNBUSY lives... There was a serious issue that neeeded fixing.. YOU think it would just take an hour just to fix? are you <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>? just think of the decisions they had to make if they were just going to do a roll back and bans or complete wipe and keep try to keep the population happy and why they chose the way they did.. i think that would be 6 hours or more debating as it is... instead of staring at your computer screen waiting for the server to go up.. go outside for once and play some basketball or go out for a run.. jesus
This has been very entertaining though. I've been reading and posting this while bringing up a couple servers (for work) after a maintenance weekend.
Do not find that amusing. I have a special needs son and have had to hear kids living around our area, call my son retarted. He's anything but retarted but a very special and bright boy. Just because someone has special needs you shouldn't descriminate them as "retarted". It annoys me that small brained people like you are prejudist. I find this offensive please Admin remove this from the forums....
If we could trade gold in the game, I'd drop a huge sack of gold on you. I kinda do wish we could use the gold, silver and copper as tradeable currency
yeh they work for free.
sort of like we get to watch free tv shows
i'm against a full wipe. to all these people saying "you can get to max level in 5 days" you really don't understand the point of playing a game like this.
its not about how fast you can "beat" it, its about how much fun you have getting there.
i don't really want to start again, its a simple as that.
now, that aside, what exactly was the exploit anyway? I logged in earlier today and someone said something about buying cats?
and a post in the forum was mentioning entering a negative bid in the AH to gain AD?
Very happy to read this, because I do NOT support the punishment of honest players for the deeds of a few crooks. I don't care how many votes one side or the other has. The time for wipes and days-wide rollbacks was in closed beta, and that time has passed. I hope the crooks are dealt with swiftly and as severely as possible, but allowing their actions to heavily impact the rest of us would be giving the crooks one final "win".
If they don't wipe, the "crooks" actions will affect legitimate players for months. You don't fix a ruined economy overnight.
I am a Lawyer in real life, but I try to roleplay an honorable character
You actually think those polls are democratic? You actually think EVERYONE who plays the game voted, or had a chance to vote? Get real, there are people out there who still don't even know the server is offline! (my bro is one of them, cause he's out golfing)
The devs will do whatever they have to do in order to keep the "business" end of the game functional. Wiping out everything and refunding all the Zen is not in the best interest of the business. Most of the people voting on that poll just want to get back online because a wipe is faster than actually trying to resolve issues. They need to chill out and spend some time outside for once.
I've never seen someone play a single character without alts on any game they truly enjoyed.
You're seeing one now. Kinda throws your facts into doubt, doesn't it? Actually, aren't alts (circumventing the 2 character maximum) kind of a ToS violation anyway? Something to think about...
Who do people think they are to deserve everything they want when they want it and screw everyone and everything else? As a Disabled Veteran it's pretty upsetting to realize these are the people my good friends and I have sacrificed so much for. If they react this way to a game we're screwed when it comes to real issues.
...I mean no disrespect, but I find it pretty sad when people have to pull out the "Disabled Veteran" card every time they think they deserve to win an argument. Talk about being hypocritical to your own statement.
its been stated that there will be no wipe at end of beta
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defective14Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 10Arc User
edited May 2013
People, can we please, please, PLEASE just let the Devs do what they need to do? I hope a lot of people realize that anything they do could potentially screw up the entire game and system therein. You don't want, I don't want it, we don't want it.
As a future Game Developer (I'm studying Game Production currently and will be graduating in November, plus I'm going to E3 next month), I am actually saddened at some of the replies here from people who don't know a **** thing about what it takes to run a MMO or to make sure nothing screws up with the fixes. Granted I don't either, but at least I have an idea and am studying the profession.
That being said, let the Devs work their magic, enjoy the game when the servers come back up, and as always: Good play!
Do not find that amusing. I have a special needs son and have had to hear kids living around our area, call my son retarted. He's anything but retarted but a very special and bright boy. Just because someone has special needs you shouldn't descriminate them as "retarted". It annoys me that small brained people like you are prejudist. I find this offensive please Admin remove this from the forums....
Chill out. Even Obama made fun of <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> and the special Olympics on the Jay Leno show.
I mean isn't your kid fcuked up enough? He doesn't need parents freakin out over people on the internets.
Crappy parent must be you are.
EDIT: Ok I have to notice you called him "small-brained" as in <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>. lol
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saintcharlezMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
This is hilarious thread everyone freaking out. The two guys arguing about who is a network engineer is so god **** funny, no one cares if you are one or not, then the lady talking about her <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> kid... omfg this is fun hhahahahaha
I'm starting to think that the only option is an economy wipe. Not characters - just the economy.
Here's how I'm imagining this would work:
1) Wipe all AD from all accounts. (Founders starting AD would be reset).
2) Wipe all Zen from all accounts.
3) Refund back to PWE accounts all Zen bought with real money and transferred in Neverwinter. (eg, if you'd bought and transferred 15000 Zen into Neverwinter, you'd get 15000 Zen credited back to your PWE account. If you'd bought another 100000 Zen in game from the AD exchange, that is gone.)
4) Delete from all characters all items that are only purchasable with AD or Zen, including items that only drop from lockboxes like the Phoera.
5) Here's the hard part: The items sold on AH. I think they need to rollback all AH sales from the last 72 hours. Trouble is, I have no idea if they can actually do this short of a server-wide rollback. If they do do this rollback, Then I believe it would be wise for them to offer some form of compensation to reduce ragequits. I'd personally prefer this to not be anything that would impact the economy or game balance.
If they do all this, then it seems to me that the damage to the ongoing economy would be mostly undone, without the need to wipe characters.
Then again, I have no knowledge of whether all of this is actually possible with the way the game is designed.
Also, add in the option for a full refund of our purchases back to our credit cards/bank.
Wipe, as a founder and someone who has put in another 100bucks worth a zen, 3 level 60's im all for a wipe, I pay to play! becase I work and I have school.. to not wipe... well Dragon prophet here I come
I think this is great this game is going after cheaters and kicking them from Neverwinter. I see so many game companies let cheaters run their games and ruin it for everyone else. We need more game companies to stand up to these cheaters. I do not like the servers being down so long, but i hate cheaters so much more. Servers can be down for as long as they need to get rid of this people that abuse the system.
I'm starting to think that the only option is an economy wipe. Not characters - just the economy.
Here's how I'm imagining this would work:
1) Wipe all AD from all accounts. (Founders starting AD would be reset).
2) Wipe all Zen from all accounts.
3) Refund back to PWE accounts all Zen bought with real money and transferred in Neverwinter. (eg, if you'd bought and transferred 15000 Zen into Neverwinter, you'd get 15000 Zen credited back to your PWE account. If you'd bought another 100000 Zen in game from the AD exchange, that is gone.)
4) Delete from all characters all items that are only purchasable with AD or Zen, including items that only drop from lockboxes like the Phoera.
5) Here's the hard part: The items sold on AH. I think they need to rollback all AH sales from the last 72 hours. Trouble is, I have no idea if they can actually do this short of a server-wide rollback. If they do do this rollback, Then I believe it would be wise for them to offer some form of compensation to reduce ragequits. I'd personally prefer this to not be anything that would impact the economy or game balance.
If they do all this, then it seems to me that the damage to the ongoing economy would be mostly undone, without the need to wipe characters.
Then again, I have no knowledge of whether all of this is actually possible with the way the game is designed.
and thats why u are not a developer for the game very horrible ideas.. you didnt even mention banning the cheats
LET the game creators decide what the **** they want to do to their game and let em do it.. they dont need somone thats not in the gamming industry to put their 2 little cents in.. WHAT ever they decide. you either still play or leave. it dont matter
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Please. Send me a PM. Give me your linked in profile. I will send you mine. You will see professional Software/Electrical engineering experience dating back to 1980's. And yes, I did do this. I had to port NTLM and Kerberos authentication to Java SDK years ago. Download the Java SDK source code from Sun/Oracle and you will see my name in the C/C++ code.
exactly. Why couldnt this wait until 1 am tonight. Are these developers <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>? Makes you think...
exactly. Why couldnt this wait until 1 am tonight? Are these developers <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>? Makes you think...
If we could trade gold in the game, I'd drop a huge sack of gold on you. I kinda do wish we could use the gold, silver and copper as tradeable currency
Oh SURE....it's the COMPANY that is screwed up, not the pantywaists that are too pathetic to play the game right but have to exploit and cheat! THEY are the culprits! Get your frustration out on those that deserve it!!
Okies, so I'm angry and mispelled the word, I think you would be too if you were in my position and have had to live with sick minded people that call my son names because he's different from others. I just want that picture removed because I find it offensive.
Yea I will keep playing, I will also keep giving them money because its a game I enjoy. Now go cry somewhere else, I hear WOW has openings for crybabys
I am sorry, but there were quite sufficient technical explanations on both ends and it was fun to be a part of to pass the time. If you do not care for any of it that is your right to voice, but to childishly state you you can tell by the wording of such technical explanations, that there is a high horse involved, only leaves me to believe that as the end of said horse you only wish to sit or otherwise occupy your time in such fashion that I shall not mention here.
This has been very entertaining though. I've been reading and posting this while bringing up a couple servers (for work) after a maintenance weekend.
<font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>* <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>* Discriminate* <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>* Prejudiced*.
I see where he gets it from.
sort of like we get to watch free tv shows
its not about how fast you can "beat" it, its about how much fun you have getting there.
i don't really want to start again, its a simple as that.
now, that aside, what exactly was the exploit anyway? I logged in earlier today and someone said something about buying cats?
and a post in the forum was mentioning entering a negative bid in the AH to gain AD?
was it really as simple as that?
If they don't wipe, the "crooks" actions will affect legitimate players for months. You don't fix a ruined economy overnight.
You actually think those polls are democratic? You actually think EVERYONE who plays the game voted, or had a chance to vote? Get real, there are people out there who still don't even know the server is offline! (my bro is one of them, cause he's out golfing)
The devs will do whatever they have to do in order to keep the "business" end of the game functional. Wiping out everything and refunding all the Zen is not in the best interest of the business. Most of the people voting on that poll just want to get back online because a wipe is faster than actually trying to resolve issues. They need to chill out and spend some time outside for once.
You're seeing one now. Kinda throws your facts into doubt, doesn't it? Actually, aren't alts (circumventing the 2 character maximum) kind of a ToS violation anyway? Something to think about...
...I mean no disrespect, but I find it pretty sad when people have to pull out the "Disabled Veteran" card every time they think they deserve to win an argument. Talk about being hypocritical to your own statement.
As a future Game Developer (I'm studying Game Production currently and will be graduating in November, plus I'm going to E3 next month), I am actually saddened at some of the replies here from people who don't know a **** thing about what it takes to run a MMO or to make sure nothing screws up with the fixes. Granted I don't either, but at least I have an idea and am studying the profession.
That being said, let the Devs work their magic, enjoy the game when the servers come back up, and as always: Good play!
Chill out. Even Obama made fun of <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> and the special Olympics on the Jay Leno show.
I mean isn't your kid fcuked up enough? He doesn't need parents freakin out over people on the internets.
Crappy parent must be you are.
EDIT: Ok I have to notice you called him "small-brained" as in <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>. lol
Also, add in the option for a full refund of our purchases back to our credit cards/bank.
Yeah, we could do that, but it would be so much more fun to tear them apart with out bare hands!! <EG>
and thats why u are not a developer for the game very horrible ideas.. you didnt even mention banning the cheats
LET the game creators decide what the **** they want to do to their game and let em do it.. they dont need somone thats not in the gamming industry to put their 2 little cents in.. WHAT ever they decide. you either still play or leave. it dont matter
Yeah, we could do that, but it would be so much more fun to tear them apart with out bare hands!! <EG>