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  • aselia669aselia669 Member Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    glannigan wrote: »
    Reality Check - It's a free video game. Its not real, its make believe. All of it. The AD, the cat, the armor, everything.

    Its fun, nothing more, nothing less.

    It seems I'n the only on here that is not delusional. Everyone has lost their minds!

    When you have invested money and you were not given the value of what you payed for it's called being ripped-off, It's not fun at all. Seems your having a jolly good time today though, tell me how much did you get from the exploit.
  • inexgravinexgrav Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    new server
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  • chai23chai23 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    glannigan wrote: »
    Reality Check - It's a free video game. Its not real, its make believe. All of it. The AD, the cat, the armor, everything.

    Its fun, nothing more, nothing less.

    It seems I'n the only on here that is not delusional. Everyone has lost their minds!

    Reality check - the company needs to make money to keep the lights on. This is not something they can do if exploiters can just get everything free in a matter of hours.

    So you can speak for yourself and call it fun, nothing more and nothing less, but for the company, this is their livelyhood, making games that people WANT TO SPEND MONEY IN.

    Or they could just pay all their employees with pixelated cats, and see how that turns out. :p
  • chai23chai23 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
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  • steppenkatsteppenkat Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    inexgrav wrote: »
    Honestly if a game launched with so many issues, I don't think we should really be expecting anything from the NW team.
    I also don't think that anyone who exploited should be punished in any way shape or form. Read what the guy posted. His tickets were actually closed and marked as resolved by the Perfect World support staff. How can you blame anyone for exploiting if the developers of the game are so **** thick?
    Anyway, without further delay: This is a copy paste from Joystiq.
    "As a Neverwinter closed Beta tester and current HotN founder, let me share all the exploits this game has had.
    Let me fill you in on ALL the exploits and when we found them.

    1 - AH exploit - This is what all the current fuss is about. Too bad it was discovered and reported in closed beta, only to still make it in. Through this exploit one can earn unlimited AD and simply clean out the AD vendors, as well as buy up all the Zen they wanted. I knew about it and reported it on the day that I logged in. My ticket was closed and marked as resolved. Upon reading it further, I noticed that a GM told me the ticket was lost and to resubmit it. I did and kept playing. The second ticket was closed and "lost again". So I gave up reporting it.

    2 - Quest sharing exploit - This allowed you to reach level 60 in about an hour of playing. It also allowed people to farm unlimited bags, assets, and materials. It was discovered and reported in closed beta, but still made it in to the open beta. Once again, I made a ticket about it only to have it closed. My follow up ticket was also closed.

    3 - Foundry bugs - Were used to gain max level and farm gear. Although I knew about this bug, I did not report it because I thought the other two were more important.

    4 - The CW set bonus bug allowing them to hit for millions points of damage. This was a very minor bug, but it still allowed a team of two or more CW's to farm end game content. I did not know about this bug, but plenty of people in my guild did.

    5 - The GF set bug - Yet another set bug that allowed the GF to almost instantly kill any mob in the game. A lot more consistent than the CW set bug, and caused a lot of damage to the economy. I knew about this a few days into the game, but decided not to report it since my other tickets kept being closed and "lost".

    6 - Chest farming exploits - These are still in the game and allow people to farm easy money, as well as gear and ingredients.

    7 - There is already a bot out for Neverwinter that members of Tault Unleashed have been using. Currently it can be made to level or exploit chests. They are working on having it take care of professions and auto pray for you as well.

    8 - TR DC bug - this was used mostly in PvP to instantly disconnect anyone the TR targeted with certain abilities. It allowed all TR groups to quickly win matches in the least amount of time possible.

    9 - Potion exploit - Basically you can have unlimited healing potions - not much of an exploit since you can accomplish the same thing easier by using any other AD earning exploit and buying potions.

    10 - AutoHotkey - Macro software that allows you to easily max your crafting.

    11 - AFK PvP groups - creating a few accounts and making an AFK group (managed by AutoHotkey or the Viper bot), you can quickly earn XP and gear while you sleep.

    12 - Their support site has not worked since launch. That's right, you can't even request a refund or report bugs through that thing! it gets stuck in an infinite loop after you log in to submit a ticket.
    I believe there are a few more I am forgetting about, but every single one of those is game breaking and has been around since closed beta.

    A wipe and massive ban waves are the only way to fix it, however I believe that Cryptic is too lazy and incompetent to see this. If their (lack of) support and temporary bans is any indication of how they will handle this mess... Well... The game is finished and I am currently writing an e-mail to their support to get my initial $199,99, and an additional $50 worth of Zen refunded to my credit card.
    I am also making a case against them with the BBB. Treating your customers like this is unacceptable."

    reddit

    Of course, and just because a random guy of the internet told you that he reported a bug, it's because he did so. Because people in the internet always say the truth.
    Characters:
    - Titania Silverblade, the Iron Rose of Myth Drannor (Lvl 60 GWF, Destroyer)
    - Gwyneth, the Cowardly Cat Burglar Drowling (Lvl 60 TR, Saboteur)
    - Lady Rowanne Firehair, Heartwarder of Sune (Lvl 33 DC)
    - Satella, Sensate (LvL 44 CW, Renegade, Non-Active)


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  • bingobongojrbingobongojr Member Posts: 42
    edited May 2013
    tbh at this point im more inclined to trust random internet people than a company that repeats a bug that involves real money (AH exploit) in 2 of their 3 games... ah and lets pretend it wasnt bugged in cb, and they didnt chose to ignore it either.

    so yea, quite frankly, im on the random internet guys side atm
  • ikagawaikagawa Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 106
    edited May 2013
    steppenkat wrote: »
    Of course, and just because a random guy of the internet told you that he reported a bug, it's because he did so. Because people in the internet always say the truth.

    Of course, you're just the random guy on the Internet trying to imply that he's lying. So we should obviously pay attention to you, right?
  • lexthegreatlexthegreat Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    steppenkat wrote: »
    Of course, and just because a random guy of the internet told you that he reported a bug, it's because he did so. Because people in the internet always say the truth.

    No, but when multiple people do it...

    Also as someone that reported a bug only to have my ticket "lost" and "resolved" I believe it.

    For now enjoy this:

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  • supergp17supergp17 Member Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    steppenkat wrote: »
    Of course, and just because a random guy of the internet told you that he reported a bug, it's because he did so. Because people in the internet always say the truth.

    Actually, there are several people reporting similar experiences.
  • lexthegreatlexthegreat Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    supergp17 wrote: »
    Actually, there are several people reporting similar experiences.

    A lot more than several actually.
  • silvertailsilvertail Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 97 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    inexgrav wrote: »

    A wipe and massive ban waves are the only way to fix it, however I believe that Cryptic is too lazy and incompetent to see this. If their (lack of) support and temporary bans is any indication of how they will handle this mess... Well... The game is finished and I am currently writing an e-mail to their support to get my initial $199,99, and an additional $50 worth of Zen refunded to my credit card.
    I am also making a case against them with the BBB. Treating your customers like this is unacceptable."

    reddit

    I don't know about everyone else but I'm sorry you feel that way. I have played on both PWI and FW and both games PWE does not care about in game economy. They have even helped to make it so that you HAVE to put money on the game in order to do anything. I don't mind putting money on a game that I enjoy playing however I do not like having to put 1000's of dollars just to be able to play the game. I would say that the reason the tickets were lost and closed would be because Cryptic and PWE are not talking or PWE is taking care of things that should be taken care of by Cryptic ( not saying this is true just my thought). If you think Neverwinter is bad try PWI. I put more money on that game then I would have liked only to have them go in and change some of the instance's for those that complained that they were to hard. BUT don't complain when you put money on a game willingly. That was your choice just like it was mine with PWI even though I will never go back to playing it.
    stealth is survival skills (and not tanking skills, that is really different)
    stealth is damage
    stealth is mobility
    stealth is everything
    everything is stealth
    Stealth make TR OP, but lack of stealth make TR useless.
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