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Hero of the North pack a Ripoff
delacroix2123
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 1 Arc User
I personally feel VERY ripped off by my $200 Hero of the North founders pack! I am even more upset that not only did PWE LIE about its value, there are issues with the items it provides that Devs refuse to fix or acknowledge so as to not scare away buyers (which is also why I expect my thread to be deleted). Honestly $200 in Zen would be so much better for any new player by a large margin.
Issues=
1. 2,000,000 astral diamonds
While this seems like allot, it is anything but. The going rate for astral diamonds to Zen (the REAL useful currency) is 420-450 astral diamonds for 1 Zen! Which nets us 4,444-4,761 Zen! Hardly a HUGE bonus for such an outrageous price to ask new customers.
2. Panther companion
The most exclusive and expensive pet in the game is also the absolute WORST. There have been numerous threads that the pets damage is not scaling correctly and its attack speed is horribly bugged. This pet is totally broken.
3. Future rip offs
Undoubtedly the 2 perks of this pack that are exclusive (the mount and drow) will I am sure be offered in the Zen store in the future probably for a huge discount. Although I don't know what they are smoking at PWE charging so much for mounts, honestly as long as the speed is 110% I don't care what it looks like.
Suggestions/Compensation
1. Fix the Panther pet (obviously)
2. Give these founders a 5,000-10,000 Zen credit. Considering this is "play money" that doesn't cost you anything, it is the least you could do to compensate those players generous enough to help get the game to launch with a boost of capital.
Issues=
1. 2,000,000 astral diamonds
While this seems like allot, it is anything but. The going rate for astral diamonds to Zen (the REAL useful currency) is 420-450 astral diamonds for 1 Zen! Which nets us 4,444-4,761 Zen! Hardly a HUGE bonus for such an outrageous price to ask new customers.
2. Panther companion
The most exclusive and expensive pet in the game is also the absolute WORST. There have been numerous threads that the pets damage is not scaling correctly and its attack speed is horribly bugged. This pet is totally broken.
3. Future rip offs
Undoubtedly the 2 perks of this pack that are exclusive (the mount and drow) will I am sure be offered in the Zen store in the future probably for a huge discount. Although I don't know what they are smoking at PWE charging so much for mounts, honestly as long as the speed is 110% I don't care what it looks like.
Suggestions/Compensation
1. Fix the Panther pet (obviously)
2. Give these founders a 5,000-10,000 Zen credit. Considering this is "play money" that doesn't cost you anything, it is the least you could do to compensate those players generous enough to help get the game to launch with a boost of capital.
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Also it's BETA, there is going to be bugs, the point of BETA is to test things so that they can be fixed. If there is a bug (and there are a few bugs around) then it'll be fixed in due time as is the point of beta testing.
STO went from ~300 dilithium:1 zen to 100:1 over a year or two. What a return!
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did you not play star trek online? it's 25 dollars PER SHIP in that game, and there are a TON OF THEM.
don't get me startd on what i spent on my jem'hadar dreadnought carrier. imagine if the best weapon in the game availble to you cost 800 tourmaline bars and you got 1-10 bars per lockbox opened.
i bet you're fully of envy when you see free players achieving more than you are
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The exchange rate was 500 to 1 at launch. It's dropped. What does that tell you? It's high because founders like you are trying to sell their Astral Diamonds for Zen rather than hanging on to it or using it for other things. It's unlikely to stay that high in the long term. Cryptic's other games have exchange rates for their AD-equiv usually floating around 200-250 for 1 Zen. It may not drop that far in Neverwinter...or maybe it might. We don't know.
But exchange rates aren't stable. Think about that.
Cryptic's previous games didn't have founder packs as such, because they launched on a regular subscription model. But they do have lifetime subscriptions, which when initially offered were priced about the level of the Neverwinter Hero of the North Pack. They also have veteran rewards for subscribers, which effectively are part of the lifetime package (since lifetimers automatically get all the vet rewards).
The costumes, player races, starships and so on from those rewards have never been offered on the Zen store. All other exclusives and preorder bonuses have eventually ended up on the Zen store, yes. But not that stuff.
Now, word is that a regular Drow race may be released for other players, but cosmetic and stat-wise it'll be different from the one Hero of the North founders get.
WTB Big-Giant Robot Camels, tbh...
mmmm...Warm cup of Founder tears. These taste so nice after 2 days of hearing how you can bypass non paying customers in the queue.
Charging $200 for meaningless garbage just to make that extra bit of revenue off the few gullible players who till this day will still be some that are in massive denial because they are so desperate to justify that their $200 is 'well spent'... It is so obvious to the majority of people that the $200 is a ripoff, especially when they 'state' that you get over $500 worth of value in the $200 pack... (yea right...).
Spider mount $40-$50 the most
Broken Pet Panther $20-$30 the most
Astral Diamonds $30 the most
Other items (Bags, Respec) $20 the most
A race to tell people you paid $200 on the game $20 the most (I wouldn't pay anything for that)
Other garbage $10 the most
This is worth $160 at most, I would even just say it is worth $200 to be generous. This is by far nowhere near the $500+ worth of value that they are stating. Not even if they throw in any other garbage to entice you would it still be worth what they say.
Yea that was really useful as soon as this went open beta. I'm not even aware of how big the queues are now though, are they still an issue?
There are certainly items from exclusives and preorder bonuses that have never reached the C-Store. The Target bonus rifle that attacks targets no matter where they are and the Automated Defense turret are a couple of examples that are not available through the C-Store, but have been asked for constantly.
Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one. And just because you do have one, does not make you an expert in ****ting.
Lots of supposition. Take your pitch fork and limited intellect elsewhere.
Buy it if you think it has value. Don't buy it if you think it is a ripoff.
Simple stuff, and it works for pretty much any purchase you will ever make. Try it out, you might like it.
edit: It isn't like they removed anything from the pack, what you see if what you get. Buyers remorse is a sign that you need to work on impulse control.
edit2: What am I saying? GIVE ALL FOUNDERS 10X MORE AD AND ALSO FREE CORVETTES! Cryptic plz?
Haters already hate on the spider mount. People just mad they ain't got eight legs that are stampeding them into glorious combat.
WTB Big-Giant Robot Camels, tbh...
OP: Show us your title, that you really are an HotN Founder. Because until I see it, you sound a lot like a charlatan. The very first ever HotN "Founder" I've seen making such accusations. I'm not calling you a troll or a liar, I'm just saying I'll take your OP with some serious grains of salt until you can show otherwise.
Yup, I saw that comming long ago
Have to laugh at the OP even harder thinking this so called "generous contribution" helped them launch the game.
In case you didn't notice OP, PWE has multiple millions of dollars from such cash grab schemes, it's how they came to own Cryptic in the first place.
Lesson learned? Perhaps next time people will listen to those of us that know PWE better than they do showing off they can throw around $200.
Not to kick the OP while he's down, but sadly I had the exact same sentiment. It's PW! Come one now! Play their game and buy Zen. That is all they care about.
The $200 you gave them? Worth less than the $50 I spent on Zen cards and traded for AD at 500 to 1 ratio. The other $50 I spent got me an ACCOUNT wide mount for all my characters, multiple character slots, and a good pet that isn't totally useless. I also still have Zen left over for keys and such.
So for $100, I got about 4X the value that you did. On the bright side you got to play a few days early. Don't know if it was worth the extra $100, but hey if you have the money to burn...
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The only thing I can really agree with you on is the panther companion. This is really a sad companion and it should be looked at.