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Do the weapon/armor models ever change?
hengyu1995
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
I've been having a blast with the game, and I just reached level 17 a little while ago and was quite impressed by the dungeon I just finished (except for the queue waiting time - that was ridiculous). I got a neat new icon, and happily equipped it. It looked identical to my previous weapon. Which looked identical to its predecessor. Which looked identical to.... (and so on)
While I do realise I still at a very low level, I feel that I've been playing this game long enough to witness some form of a visual change on my character as I start getting new equipment (which happens in literally EVERY other RPG/MMORPG I've ever played). But I witnessed nothing of the sort. Every piece of equipment on my character now (bar the helmet) looks IDENTICAL to their level 1 counterparts - the broken ones I picked up after being washed up a shore.
The complete and utter lack of equipment models is highly immersion-breaking and removes a great deal of the satisfaction derived from obtaining improved equipment. While it does not break the game or reduce the quality of its gameplay, an omission of such a seemingly basic feature makes it feel very unpolished and lazily made on the design side, which is unfortunate because the design is above average for the most part thus far.
I need to find out if this is the case throughout the game or if it's perhaps a beta-only flaw that will be promptly dealt with. (as it should be) I initially thought it could be just me, but a handful of my friends and guildies reflected the same concerns about the game.
Any thoughts?
While I do realise I still at a very low level, I feel that I've been playing this game long enough to witness some form of a visual change on my character as I start getting new equipment (which happens in literally EVERY other RPG/MMORPG I've ever played). But I witnessed nothing of the sort. Every piece of equipment on my character now (bar the helmet) looks IDENTICAL to their level 1 counterparts - the broken ones I picked up after being washed up a shore.
The complete and utter lack of equipment models is highly immersion-breaking and removes a great deal of the satisfaction derived from obtaining improved equipment. While it does not break the game or reduce the quality of its gameplay, an omission of such a seemingly basic feature makes it feel very unpolished and lazily made on the design side, which is unfortunate because the design is above average for the most part thus far.
I need to find out if this is the case throughout the game or if it's perhaps a beta-only flaw that will be promptly dealt with. (as it should be) I initially thought it could be just me, but a handful of my friends and guildies reflected the same concerns about the game.
Any thoughts?
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But from your standard armors...nope, same **** different stats. Weapons are pretty much 100% the same. Hopefully Cryptic will change this and not charge huge amounts of money for fashion outfits. The second of the two options is more likely.
It's hard to see right with each added item but if you take a screenshot of yourself every few levels you should notice the improvements.
Of course more variety would always be better though.
I think it's fun to see a lot of people all in different outfits. I makes me think "I got to ask what armor he used, because I really like how it looks" or "what level is he, I want to have that armor too".
And in words that the developers might understand better: If they have more different armor/weapon styles in the shop(s), people might buy some premium money (optionally convert it to ingame money) and buy that great look they want to go for
For your "Green" items, what it does actualy is that every so often there's a little addition tot he "base" look. So as you level up and keep moving to newer green items of that same type, the model gets more and more different. Going from a simple "shirt" to a shirt with shoulder decorations, little parts parts hanging off the side of it, a cowl in the back, etc. You m ight not notice it changing that much until you're in the 20+ levels.
I do wish there was more individual models though, where players can find a style different and customize it more. However dye's are super expneisve in the store and it takes THREE bottles of dye to dye a single piece of clothing fully that color.
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And I always wind up replacing my gear within a few hours of dyeing it in the first place. This is one area I wish they had gone with the GW2 model. There you pick a color scheme and while the gear model changes the gear keeps to your chosen color scheme. There you have to find or buy dye's to unlock colors for further customization.
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The GW2 model for gear customization is near perfect for F2P setup.
I don't think I'd mind the lack of models as much if appearance change wasn't so expensive.
They do not effect your combat gear stats.
Think of it like this.
All of the armors are very detailed, but on a low scale the differences are very subtle. I for one, really enjoy that. What I'd reccommend, is to take a level 25 character, and buy armors of the lower bonus sets that you have "levelled out of", like a +3, +2 and +1, then switch between them to see how they evolve.
That would be spiffy and once I reach level 60 and have all level 60 gear will be great. But right now I use some dye and get a nice looking set of colored gear than upgrade it and am back to being in 50 shades of grey.
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So they made ONE coplete armor set and just give it to you piece by piece in the span of 30+ levels, but it's still ONE armor model. I seriously hope that with the money they got in release they are working on it as we speak, it's quite pathetic right now.
Smoke@stonedbill - Mindflayer - 60 Rogue
And this is why this is open beta and not finished released. Yes I fully expect to see the weapon/armor models expand over time and get released into the game. I'm actually certain that is a project someone is currently working on.
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I love this game, but I hope PW is aware that in North America we need variety to keep interested.
There is a reason Lineage 1 didn't do so well over here
Dye drops/loot etc.
You can get quite creative. Here's my level 40 rogue in level 35 gear with creative dye use (different colors for base and primary)
And that looks fantastic right until you change your gear and wind up in shades of grey again unless you track down and buy more red dye.
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Already have enough red dye for the next TWO sets of armor thanks. Had a couple of them drop on skill checks. Could easily find more if I had to. This armor set will probably last at least another week, possibly two. I'm not madly dashing my way to level 60.
I'm assuming you could just slip the gear into the appearance slot to keep it looking the same? Haven't tried playing with that yet as everything I have at level 15 looks the same anyhow
Haven't tried that yet. Was planning to do it for the weapons if I can pick up two of those one handed orc axes that rogues can use (my alts both got one, never thought about keeping them at the time).
I did notice folks in the Moonstone Mask with items , including armor, that had inherited appearance.
It certainly destroys the QQ'ing tho, dye once, keep look forever no matter how much you upgrade (keeping in mind that sticking something into the appearance slot destroys it).