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Being able to roll need on items you can't use has got to go.
skrigg
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 10 Arc User
Absolutely no reason to be able to do this. It just creates problems and drives people to grief and away from the game.
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Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
Considering nearly everything is bind on equip. And can be sold and traded for AD. Need can be very open.
Id personally much rather quest to earn cash and buy an item I really want. Then to have to hope for and rely on the luck of a random drop that might be for my class but might not have the stats I want.
Besides, if everyone rolls equally...then it is by default equal. And the odds of coming out of a run with something of value to show for it is increased. Rather then hoping you get blessed with a drop that the rest of the party feels you might be worthy of even rolling for.
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
Once the rest of the group caught on, then everybody was needing the items. Just becomes a mess, and nobody gets the stuff they "really" need.
This, please change this so people enjoy the grouping experience!!
I agree with it being an age old problem, though I cannot fathom how it managed to be a problem for this long seeing as WoW (among other mmos) has had it for years. If your class cannot wear it then you cannot press the Need button. Simple as that.
"I want it to sell" is the very definition of greed. /shrug
Of course, the ideal solution is to simply join a team of people you know, and either let the leader distribute drops, or just go w/ some kind of round-robin scheme.
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This is how it should be. Roll need all you want on items that anybody can use, but limit class specific items to the classes they belong to.
lol yes. everyones making this too complicated. class specific drops should go to the class it belongs to. so what if they dont even use it, it will even out for everyone in the end as everyone will have a better shot at getting an item for their class
@mikelove9 lol! is this your first mmorpg experience? or are you that clueless by default?
At least Rift patched later to fix it.
That's different than rolling Need on a red item that your class can't use at all. It might not end up being an upgrade but at least there was a possibility of them needing it.
Right absolutely. I think that should be changed immediately. But the other stuff is still kind of a bummer. I end up getting tons of stuff I know someone else could use just because we all had to roll need to find out if we could use it.
That's a problem with the whole ID mechanic which serves no purpose whatsoever and should never have been added in the first place.
uh no ive been playing since eq in 1999. im also agreeing with you, wtf are you talking about
No,no.The op is not talking about unidentified items.Even unidentified items at least tell you for what class they are for and for what level.
The problem is that a X class can need a Y class item.When it's a item you can't wear it's highlighted in red but you can still roll Need for it.Doesn't make any sense.This useless system is a relic from games where a class that could wear heavy armor could also wear cloth armor.
You are what is wrong. Class item blue need for class. Green item greed. Pass on non class blue.
It is people like u who drive everything to need. You are the person that i noticed needing while others greed and ninjaing all items. Go to hell and die you no sense of community ******. When i first gamed i didnt want to need in case i made a mistake because back then there was a community. Sigh u r terribad
Also, don't be the first loot ninja in the party. Why? Simple, I've actually had plenty of instances where everyone are nice and only needs on what they want. However, that all changes when there's a loot ninja which makes everyone else start needing. Guess what, that loot ninja just screwed himself over because now, he's competing with 4 other people for gear that he might actually need. All for a few paltry silver coins.
Boss loot already are identified, so no problems there. As for the random green loot, well, nothing green will make for a huge upgrade if it's the same equipment required level. You'll probably just trade 30 power for 30 recovery or something. My personal rule, if the green loot is 2 levels above my green gear, then I'll need it because you'll actually get a higher total stat like 30 power for 40 recovery. If it's the same level or below, I don't bother with it.
It's one thing to advertise "LF1M! Need DPS" and you'll probably not have a problem filling that last slot. However, with disabled Need buttons, you get a lot of "LF2M! Need Tank, Need DPS. - No Rogue, No Guardian!" because nobody wants to share the Need opportunities, and now it takes forever for groups to fill because they're more picky, and the chat gets spammed with more LFG/LFM messages.
Don't get me wrong... I'm a huge proponent of the accepted need before greed method (no, equipping alts does not constitute need), but sometimes you've gotta role with what may be better in the long run.
Myself personally, the moment I see party members Needing on items they can't even use... I just drop party and leave.
I was pointing out how I noticed people were doing it. What am I supposed to do? Be the only one in a party doing it "right"? If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. But thanks for the insults. Don't talk about a sense of community when you **** all over people.
that's it don't fight it join it. I think that's what they did in HAMSTER Germany. Lets just all go along.