So this is how Neverwinter players deal with a challenge? .
Playing in a premade is the opposite of wanting a challenge, and getting farmed by a premade in full PvP gear and with two healers is not challenging, either. It is futile, un-fun and a waste of time. It is a game, you see, and most people do not want to get bullied, which is what premade vs PUG is.
So they will leave or go idle. Why not? You still get 350 glory if you lose (700 for winning) and the faster the game ends, the faster you may get a PUG vs PUG match that is actually fun and challenging.
Premade players will always use your line, while at the same time avoiding any sort of challenge.
So... If me and my friends want to pvp together because we like to play together, I should wait in a much longer queue because it's too hard for you? No thanks.
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leissesMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
So... If me and my friends want to pvp together because we like to play together, I should wait in a much longer queue because it's too hard for you? No thanks.
This.
And for the 312847894357th time, I'm not advocating pre-mades because I play in one, because I don't.
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senix187Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
So this is how Neverwinter players deal with a challenge?
When they see that they are going to get a challenging PvP match (vs a pre-made), they "just leave... or sit at the spawn point"? They couldn't just try to, oh you know, ADAPT? Maybe try to ninja-cap 1 or 3? Maybe try to gank one of the healers?
Oh no, you would rather just quit the game and come cry to the forums, that's much easier.
EDIT: I'll even delve further into this 'issue'...
You know that there is in-game voice chat, right? By default, you push V to talk. And you also know that that pre-made consists of 5 other Humans, and not robot AI that never make mistakes, right? So did the thought ever cross your mind that maybe they are just plain BETTER at the game than you are? What is stopping you from getting 4 of your friends and doing the same thing?
No wait, don't answer that .....
you got some serius anger issue's do you really think A fully pvp geared pre made team against random people Wich most of them have no gear is a challenge? dit you even play level 60 pvp.? you die in 2 sec im pretty geared right now and 9/10 matches i play against pre made's People of my team leave wich in i have no control. and 5 random people dont think alike + not evryone is using a mic wat is stopping me from doing the same? wel good question i dont like matches where the other team goes afk or leave's that's why i made this treath + ninja cap is impossible rofl you can clearly see when some one is capping a spot I dont think you even playd Neverwinter ?
you got some serius anger issue's do you really think A fully pvp geared pre made team against random people Wich most of them have no gear is a challenge? dit you even play level 60 pvp.? you die in 2 sec im pretty geared right now and 9/10 matches i play against pre made's People of my team leave wich in i have no control. and 5 random people dont think alike + not evryone is using a mic wat is stopping me from doing the same? wel good question i dont like matches where the other team goes afk or leave's that's why i made this treath + ninja cap is impossible rofl you can clearly see when some one is capping a spot I dont think you even playd Neverwinter ?
5 year old Jimmy - mama, mama those 5 boys are playing together as a team and they beat me at kickball all the time mama, please do something about it!
Mom : Well jimmy, why don't you join a kickball team?
Jimmy - WELL I DON'T WANNA!
You sound like a 3 year old, and your spelling reflects it.
So... If me and my friends want to pvp together because we like to play together, I should wait in a much longer queue because it's too hard for you? No thanks.
Premades are rarely a result of "friends" wanting to play together, and almost always the consequence of people not wanting a challenge. I ran premades for years in WoW, and I have no problem admitting that I and my "friends" did it because we wanted to farm honor points and titles effortlessly. Whenever we met another premade, either them or us just /danced and let the other side win, so we could continue farming randoms.
The thing is, I think partial premades are fine. If this wasn't 5vs5, playing with actual friends wouldn't have an impact. In a 20vs20, allowing partial premades of 2-5 players would be workable. But in 5vs5, it is a complete dealbreaker for people who queue solo. So, yes, you should wait longer because you have an advantage. Here, you don't even have party chat in PvP matches.
5 year old Jimmy - mama, mama those 5 boys are playing together as a team and they beat me at kickball all the time mama, please do something about it!
Mom : Well jimmy, why don't you join a kickball team?
Jimmy - WELL I DON'T WANNA!
You sound like a 3 year old, and your spelling reflects it.
funny thing is you comment on the game when you dont even play it or own it. You just trying to be a dickhead wel np it's probably you're job and first of all im not english. second of all this treath is not based on spelling. you can clearly understand wat im typing or you wont be able to reply.
but watever if it's you're thing to make false accaunts and talk nonsense go ahead and first im 5 then im 3 then im in the kickball team and then my mom ask me to join the kickball team? wel ok if my spelling is wrong atleast i can make some propper SENSE!
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leissesMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
I just can't believe I'm reading these arguments against premade teams. You just said people need to be punished for playing with friends.
funny thing is you comment on the game when you dont even play it or own it. You just trying to be a dickhead wel np it's probably you're job and first of all im not english. second of all this treath is not based on spelling. you can clearly understand wat im typing or you wont be able to reply.
but watever if it's you're thing to make false accaunts and talk nonsense go ahead and first im 5 then im 3 then im in the kickball team and then my mom ask me to join the kickball team? wel ok if my spelling is wrong atleast i can make some propper SENSE!
What are you even talking about? Look at my join date. I was Alpha Testing this game before you even knew it was being developed, dude. Anyways you are now forum ignored, so you can reply w/e, I wont see it.
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senix187Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
no one hase to be punnishd read the 1e post.
Pre made's are fine trust me there not good at all just better geared but people dont stand to stay in pvp matches against pre made teams thats my point How can we fix that. if people just read wat im saying it's my oppinion that i dont like pre made's tell me why you think pre made's should stay or go no need to be a (kitten) just keep it civil and stop replying to other people treaths because that wil change you're oppinion to a oppinion from some one else.
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senix187Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
Continue the topic plz.... i was getting some positive feedback... on how people feel abaut it but like always there is a dickhead.
I just can't believe I'm reading these arguments against premade teams. You just said people need to be punished for playing with friends.
Edit: I was talking about imivo.
Pretty sure imivo left the thread out of shame and embarassment. Not only did he say people should be punished for playing with friends, but he also said there was no party chat in PvP.
they should be careful to not make changes that increase the time it takes to get the match started, other than that I'll play as it is or with whatever they change.
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But everytime someone talks about rankings in this forum the guy is attacked.
Do you have any idea of the amount of work it takes to implement a ranking system into a game?
Playing in a premade is the opposite of wanting a challenge, and getting farmed by a premade in full PvP gear and with two healers is not challenging, either. It is futile, un-fun and a waste of time. It is a game, you see, and most people do not want to get bullied, which is what premade vs PUG is.
So they will leave or go idle. Why not? You still get 350 glory if you lose (700 for winning) and the faster the game ends, the faster you may get a PUG vs PUG match that is actually fun and challenging.
Premade players will always use your line, while at the same time avoiding any sort of challenge.
I do! And...???
This.
And for the 312847894357th time, I'm not advocating pre-mades because I play in one, because I don't.
5 year old Jimmy - mama, mama those 5 boys are playing together as a team and they beat me at kickball all the time mama, please do something about it!
Mom : Well jimmy, why don't you join a kickball team?
Jimmy - WELL I DON'T WANNA!
You sound like a 3 year old, and your spelling reflects it.
Premades are rarely a result of "friends" wanting to play together, and almost always the consequence of people not wanting a challenge. I ran premades for years in WoW, and I have no problem admitting that I and my "friends" did it because we wanted to farm honor points and titles effortlessly. Whenever we met another premade, either them or us just /danced and let the other side win, so we could continue farming randoms.
The thing is, I think partial premades are fine. If this wasn't 5vs5, playing with actual friends wouldn't have an impact. In a 20vs20, allowing partial premades of 2-5 players would be workable. But in 5vs5, it is a complete dealbreaker for people who queue solo. So, yes, you should wait longer because you have an advantage. Here, you don't even have party chat in PvP matches.
You now lost the shred of respect I once had for you. Now you are just full-HAMSTER IMO. Never thought of hitting /p, did you?
So you are level 60, and don't even know how to use party chat, and you expect to win PvP matches? That is just cute
but watever if it's you're thing to make false accaunts and talk nonsense go ahead and first im 5 then im 3 then im in the kickball team and then my mom ask me to join the kickball team? wel ok if my spelling is wrong atleast i can make some propper SENSE!
Edit: I was talking about imivo.
What are you even talking about? Look at my join date. I was Alpha Testing this game before you even knew it was being developed, dude. Anyways you are now forum ignored, so you can reply w/e, I wont see it.
Pre made's are fine trust me there not good at all just better geared but people dont stand to stay in pvp matches against pre made teams thats my point How can we fix that. if people just read wat im saying it's my oppinion that i dont like pre made's tell me why you think pre made's should stay or go no need to be a (kitten) just keep it civil and stop replying to other people treaths because that wil change you're oppinion to a oppinion from some one else.
Pretty sure imivo left the thread out of shame and embarassment. Not only did he say people should be punished for playing with friends, but he also said there was no party chat in PvP.
I'd be ashamed, too....
+10/charrr