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senix187
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I really dont like pre made teams in ( level 60 PvP ) they just roll 2 healers and if you're unlucky you're team got none.:mad:
Pre made teams should fight Pre made teams.
So make a solo queue it is extremly frustrating Because there is not mutch you can do.
Tip for pvp
Make the maps Bigger more points to cap.
Maybe ad a buff here and there.
Let me know wat you guys think and stick to the topic
guys stick to the pvp line please and stop comparing a game with reall life stuff.....
tell me you're thoughts on how it is current state ballance etc wat do you think needs rework and give some positive feed back
dont (kitten) at each other
And for the record i dont want any ranked stuff or watever + im all for playing with m8's But wat i experience is that the other team just goes afk or leave's that's not really fun + there are no leaver penalty's?
Again give some positive feedback so we can help them improve Pvp.
remember keep it simple.! keep it :cool:
Pre made teams should fight Pre made teams.
So make a solo queue it is extremly frustrating Because there is not mutch you can do.
Tip for pvp
Make the maps Bigger more points to cap.
Maybe ad a buff here and there.
Let me know wat you guys think and stick to the topic
guys stick to the pvp line please and stop comparing a game with reall life stuff.....
tell me you're thoughts on how it is current state ballance etc wat do you think needs rework and give some positive feed back
dont (kitten) at each other
And for the record i dont want any ranked stuff or watever + im all for playing with m8's But wat i experience is that the other team just goes afk or leave's that's not really fun + there are no leaver penalty's?
Again give some positive feedback so we can help them improve Pvp.
remember keep it simple.! keep it :cool:
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You guys are looking for a MOBA in an MMORPG. Go play LoL if you want ELO ranking and Group Queues.
EDIT: Also, if it bugs you so much, queue with your friends, and as long as you guys aren't 5 rogues, voila, problem solved.
Indeed I like to see pre-mades fighting random groups since it encourage people to join a guild and interact.
EDIT: Oh god! Stop this PvP Hate all around forum. It's completely annoying.
+1 10/char
Neither is more important than the other. I adore PvP, actually. What I'm saying is, this is naturally a PvE game, they just implemented a PvP system to quiet the crying masses. I am saying that they shouldn't be balancing around PvP, and furthermore they shouldn't even be spending that much time on it. The OP is specifically asking for a MOBA: there are plenty of those around.
Get over it. Don't want to adjust, don't play PVP.
'Merican Plt PL- "Contact front, 30 meters. Hold your fire. Hey Insurgents, what do ya'll have over there"
Insurgent 1- "Umm, two guys with PKMs, RPG with 5 rounds, and two guys with AK's"
'Merican PL- "K we got a 240 team, couple guys with 320's on their M4s, a SAW gunner..and..well ****, a medic"
Insugent 1- "Hey that's not fair at all. We don't have any medic"
'Merican PL- "<font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>, can't argue with that. Okay, ya'll stay here. We are gonna RTB and get another team for this fight. You all hang
out in que for a bit longer."
Just sounds silly doesn't it. You choose to engage other players. Can't always have the fight you want.
Basically, this. You can't punish people who play with their friends just because you don't have any.
I don't get it though, when I play PvP I own disgustedly, to the tune of 7-1-25, 8-2-26 numbers. And I haven't spent a dime on the game yet .... Granted, I play TR, use full PvP spec (daze, bait and switch, deft strike) and I basically only go in for ~50% health, low armor targets (other rogues, CWs and DCs).
It might get out of hand in a few weeks with the Zstore items, but at the moment, PvP is pretty easy. I'd say I win about 70% of the time, while going into queues solo.
Perhaps because at lower level PvP without good team co-ordination a TR is likely the best class, let alone one fully specced for PvP.
Then you have people who join premades because they want to get organized, and they want to get better. These people are always for premades vs premade queues, because they like the challange, even if they lose, they can see what they did wrong and what they need to get better at. They don't want to fight solo queue people, because they pose no challange to them and they find it boring to 3 cap a map and win in 5 minutes.
Obviously, the first type is the most vocal when it comes to making premades only be matched against other premades. Hopefully the devs know better than listen to those scrubs. And you can easily see what type is posting in this thread.
Btw, ELO is no invention of MOBAs, it's widely used ranking system originated from chess. Pretty much every game that have some kind ranking system is using some variation of ELO.
I know eventually I will begin facing off against pre-made teams in pickup groups. I will not be stressing myself trying to compensate for the baddies on my team, because its unfair. When the pre-made bull**** starts, i'm uninstalling. This has been the way of things in every MMO i've played except Guild Wars 2, who did PvP correctly.
i really enjoyd lower level pvp.
thats not the point my fault should of sayd clearly level 60 pvp!
Don't support it, nor am I against it. What I'm saying is the devs have an enormous amount of issues to work on before they should address something as trivial as this. Also if you actually read my post, you'll see that I play PUGS in PvP. I just don't suicide dive on a GF when I see two clerics standing behind him ........
What is one thing all of these things have in common? They all have very strong Esport scene. I feel as if a game doesn't have the potential to become an Esport you are most likely going to fail. Sure you might have a decent game if you remove pvp and never care about pvp and you'll have some subs. Although you will never have the subs or income flow that the bigger games are bringing in.
These games need a competitive aspect to hold peoples attention and if it fails with PVP lots of people will shy away.
TL:DR Esport or Fail
All 3 of those games have player communities that are beyond disgusting and I would rather have a niche game full of friendly players. You can keep your epeens elsewhere.
I'm all for pvp, but an "esport" doesn't belong here, imo
Wow.... so dumb... If you want e-sports, by all means go play those ****-for-brains games. This isn't a MOBA, how many times can I say that in this thread ...
I don't think they shouldn't divide the premade from the PuG although I believe it's not necessary, but while we don't have a great PvP plaerbase we must not slice it in two smaller groups.
No one wants to punish them. If premades play against premades, they get better, more challenging matches. And everyone else does not get frustrated. PvP from 1-59 is pretty good at the moment. At 60, you die in literally two seconds. Even now, people just leave when there is a premade, or they sit at the spawn point. I tried a few matches at level 60, and it was not an enjoyable experience, and not one match ended with a full team.
I agree with this wholeheartedly - I never understood how anyone can argue with a straight face that having premades face other premades is 'punishing them'? In fact I would argue that a situation where people who don't join PvP in an arranged team aren't ROFL-stomped by premades will lead to more people interested in PvP which will be better for everyone long term.
So this is how Neverwinter players deal with a challenge?
When they see that they are going to get a challenging PvP match (vs a pre-made), they "just leave... or sit at the spawn point"? They couldn't just try to, oh you know, ADAPT? Maybe try to ninja-cap 1 or 3? Maybe try to gank one of the healers?
Oh no, you would rather just quit the game and come cry to the forums, that's much easier.
EDIT: I'll even delve further into this 'issue'...
You know that there is in-game voice chat, right? By default, you push V to talk. And you also know that that pre-made consists of 5 other Humans, and not robot AI that never make mistakes, right? So did the thought ever cross your mind that maybe they are just plain BETTER at the game than you are? What is stopping you from getting 4 of your friends and doing the same thing?
No wait, don't answer that .....
If you simply want premades to ROFL-stop solo que people just say so........
Because by your 'argument' premades will have have more challenge facing other premades. And if so whats your issue
And to address this, yes, you DO punish them. Not because of the match-ups, but because of the tremendously long queue times you will be making them endure.
thats my issue.
Also, as stated 3 other places in this thread, I play Solo.