Difference between Cat and Ioun Stone?

slaadar · May 2013

I know that cat gives you crit and recovery but I heard it was 200 at max rank?

Also does the cat give you FULL stat bonuses from the runestones/items that you put on it?

Ioun stone of Might is so vague can someone tell me the stats for it at max rank or what rank they have it on now and whether it provides full bonuses?

P.S. Which one do you guys think is better in general?

EDIT: Also if you have high charisma, does it also boost the ioun stone/cat's base stats AND the items/runestones you put on it? or just the base?

Thanks for the posts but so if cat gives a crit/recovery bonus doesn't the ioun stone also give some sort of passive bonus?

supjeremiah · May 2013

The stone looks way cooler. Too bad its 1k bars.

derressh · May 2013

I would also like to know this, if anyone has done a bit of experimenting with either one.

deistik · May 2013

Cat has 2 offensive rune slots and 1 defensive, stone has 3 offensive. Can't remember the armor slots off the top of my head but I think it was something like 2 rings and a neck/waist for the stone, neck/ring/waist for the cat. Cat also gives you a small bonus to crit and recovery as a buff. And yes, both pets give full bonuses for all the equipment/runes you put on them.

slaadar · May 2013

thanks and bump for more detailed info

shytbyrd · May 2013

I added an Eldritch runestone to my cat to get 6% more stats from it and I didn't notice a difference. My crit percent actually dropped, until i re-summoned him. Does anyone know if this is working? Also does that mean Charisma bonus isn't working for the cat either? Sorry to hijack the thread, this is pertinent to these pets.

avean · May 2013

-Both pets give you full stats of the pet to yourself
-Ioun Stone(blue removed), had default stats in power, crit, and recovery.
-Cat has default stats in Crit and recovery(lvl 25 cat has a base of 235 of each).
-Green Ioun Stone ~~ I assume to be a lower teir of the blue one(max level of 20 weakens it)
-in Endgame gear the %stats from a defensive Eldrich will grant more overall stats than a equal teir offensive rune
making the cat have slightly more stats overall, however spread between all stats on the gear you happen to have.
you can gain over 100% of the stats of the pet.
-Ioun Stones look better

kalwrath · May 2013

Anyone know if the Green Ioun Stone is the only one in-game currently? I recall a blue ioun stone in the closed beta.

supjeremiah · May 2013

avean wrote: »

-Both pets give you full stats of the pet to yourself
-Ioun Stone(blue removed), had default stats in power, crit, and recovery.
-Cat has default stats in Crit and recovery(lvl 25 cat has a base of 235 of each).
-Green Ioun Stone ~~ I assume to be a lower teir of the blue one(max level of 20 weakens it)
-in Endgame gear the %stats from a defensive Eldrich will grant more overall stats than a equal teir offensive rune
making the cat have slightly more stats overall, however spread between all stats on the gear you happen to have.
you can gain over 100% of the stats of the pet.
-Ioun Stones look better

Also, another thing to point out. The cat can die.

jkaplan92 · May 2013

What makes the Iouen stone better? It has less levels and doesn't it give less base stats? I really wish we had concrete info here.

unspecifiederror · May 2013

supjeremiah wrote: »

Also, another thing to point out. The cat can die.

I don't think I've ever seen it die and I've been using it for a long time.

deistik · May 2013

unspecifiederror wrote: »

I don't think I've ever seen it die and I've been using it for a long time.

Never seen it die in the last 100+ dungeons I've done, tbh.

themangroth · May 2013

yeah, kitty isn't targetable, or susceptible to AoE. He just stays like 5-10 feet behind you at all times.

Kitty wins because of adoreableness!

supjeremiah · May 2013

unspecifiederror wrote: »

I don't think I've ever seen it die and I've been using it for a long time.

I've had it die doing epic throne of idris on the boss when we had like 50 adds. I assumed it was AoE? It definitely died, though.

slaadar · May 2013

Can someone tell me though if the ioun stone of might give any passive stat bonuses? Otherwise I'm going to get the cat.

supjeremiah · May 2013

My guild mate has it. I'll ask him once servers come back up.

slaadar · May 2013

Thanks Supjeremiah, I appreciate this, because I'm stuck between getting the cool stone or the cute kitty, (trying to maximize effectiveness doing dungeons.)

Also does anyone know if having either of these increases your gear score?

xromka · May 2013

Have same question.

Can't decide which is better to use for GF.
Now me use cleric companion, but dont sure if its best choose or try cat/stone.

xadfrost · May 2013

I'd sure like to get some clarity regarding these passive companions. I'd love to have either a cat or an Ioun stone, but it seems the cat is better for a cleric?

xromka · May 2013

slaadar wrote: »

Can someone tell me though if the ioun stone of might give any passive stat bonuses? Otherwise I'm going to get the cat.

Noone know answer?

oghier · May 2013

xadfrost wrote: »

I'd sure like to get some clarity regarding these passive companions. I'd love to have either a cat or an Ioun stone, but it seems the cat is better for a cleric?

The cat gives Recovery and Crit, which are generally seen as the two most important stats for popular cleric builds. That said, the game is new, there are no detailed combat parsers in widespread use and the theorycraft is not well developed. Both class abilities and our understanding of how they work together are likely to change quite a bit.

So, if you like rocks better than kittens, go for it. It's probably a coin flip as to which will be better six months from now. I know I am happy with my galeb duhr for solo work and the cat for dungeon groups, but I have no math to defend me.

robman1978 · May 2013

I could have sworn my cat died a few times. Anyone else had this happen?

someoneod · May 2013

robman1978 wrote: »

I could have sworn my cat died a few times. Anyone else had this happen?

It died once for me when I had it at very low levels inside an epic dungeon.

As to stats, i would assume that the spread would be lower in general from the stone, since it has 3 stats, as opposed to the cat's 2. Personally I just loaded the cat with recovery gems and use it asa recovery bot, I get something like 700 recovery from the thing, it's pretty amazing.

shytbyrd · May 2013

I noticed HP gear does not translate to you.

slaadar · May 2013

I see, what the ioun stone give in terms of the passive bonuses?

forsakenlich1 · May 2013

ion stone gives a little of everywithing with mostly power, then defense, then arpen, then deflect and regen. a level 12 stone is giving me 340 power 157 efense 131 arpen and some regen and deflect. it is very powerful

contrary to popular belief cat and acolyte can die like any other companion. they just dont die as easily because they inherently pull no aggro.

Ioun stone is the only one that is untargetable and cannot die. It takes the form of a tiny little thing whirling around your head

best companion for end game for GWFs rogues and wizz imo. worth the trade bars

kidbs · May 2013

forsakenlich1 wrote: »

ion stone gives a little of everywithing with mostly power, then defense, then arpen, then deflect and regen. a level 12 stone is giving me 340 power 157 efense 131 arpen and some regen and deflect. it is very powerful

contrary to popular belief cat and acolyte can die like any other companion. they just dont die as easily because they inherently pull no aggro.

Ioun stone is the only one that is untargetable and cannot die. It takes the form of a tiny little thing whirling around your head

best companion for end game for GWFs rogues and wizz imo. worth the trade bars

How do you get the bars? Are they only in the chests?

moriant42 · May 2013

Ioun Stone of Might

Passively has Power, Armor Pen, Recovery, Deflect
(at Rank 20, each of the four stats has 89-90 before any runes or gear equipped)
(another other stat bonuses can come from the gear and slotted runes)

3 Offensive Rune Slots
Ring Slot, Belt Slot (at 15), another Ring (at 25)

xromka · May 2013

forsakenlich1 wrote: »

best companion for end game for GWFs rogues and wizz imo. worth the trade bars

what you think about Guardian Fighter? Its best companion for high end?

cakuu · May 2013

Yeah, the cat can die. While going through a rather cleverly designed foundry dungeon, the cat got caught on some geometry and died from a fall (or more specifically, it got stuck and fell through the world repeatedly until it died, which took a while). This only happened once ever, but it can happen.

The cat will also trigger traps and get damaged that way, but I never noticed it get injured from enemy attacks-- even AOEs.

robman1978 · May 2013

cakuu wrote: »

Yeah, the cat can die. While going through a rather cleverly designed foundry dungeon, the cat got caught on some geometry and died from a fall (or more specifically, it got stuck and fell through the world repeatedly until it died, which took a while). This only happened once ever, but it can happen.

The cat will also trigger traps and get damaged that way, but I never noticed it get injured from enemy attacks-- even AOEs.

Aah. That makes sense.

Difference between Cat and Ioun Stone?

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