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copperscaledrgncopperscaledrgn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 31 Arc User
edited June 2013 in The Moonstone Mask (PC)
I love the Neverwinter series of games and was very excited to see a new game being developed in the NW world. I am totally new to MMO's and have not a clue what a lot of the things are to do or how to accomplish some things. Any suggestions for me? I just finished the Dragonbridge quest and entered Neverwinter for the first time.
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  • puresurpluspuresurplus Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I have no idea what I'm doing either. At least you know you're not alone! :cool:
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  • arcademasterarcademaster Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Welcome to the game!

    In the beginning just always head to the yellow exclamation and question marks on the map. Those should lead you through the game. End the early missions explain a new feature to two. For more help you'll need to be a bit more specific ;)
  • emeraldoneemeraldone Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Just take things slow, and investigate things. Rarely is there a "break everything" button, so dig in!:D
  • haliethhalieth Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    It's a new game so we will all be newbs when we first start out. :D
    Let me introduce you to my blade.
  • beledalbeledal Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Welcome, take it slowly and enjoi the game, with time you will understand the dynamics behind an MMO :)
  • leillannaleillanna Member Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I love the Neverwinter series of games and was very excited to see a new game being developed in the NW world. I am totally new to MMO's and have not a clue what a lot of the things are to do or how to accomplish some things. Any suggestions for me? I just finished the Dragonbridge quest and entered Neverwinter for the first time.

    Take it slow and easy. Don't get frustrated. NEVER TOSS A DWARF!! Don't skip anything...ever. Turn off global and zone chats at prime times.....You will thank me for this advice especially. Read the forums with a grain of salt. Find a group of like minded players or a guild. Understand that PVP in MMO's will NEVER be balanced. Find one class you love, stick with it, learn it, master it. If you see Elven women dancing nude in the taverns.....JOIN IN!! If in a dungeon and you're about to open a chest and a cutscene starts showing a kobold laughing at you from behind a portcullis....IT"S A TRAP!!
    Just have fun. That is what games are for. To enjoy yourself.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Eilistraee zhal zuch tlu wun ussta xukuth.
  • eyewishuheaveneyewishuheaven Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I 2nd the don't get frustrated statement. If your not a cleric or mage then I would advise to run with a cleric companion (level 16). They will keep you living longer.
  • labbblabbb Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    /say is local talk only people near you will hear it .
    /zone is map talk everyone on the map will hear you .

    If you keep running into the same people use /say and try to get them to group up . This is the one thing about MMO's ..other people :)

    Ohh and dwarf tossing is fun . Its a great sport all us half-orcs enjoy . Its much better to toss them then drink that swill they think is ale .
  • copperscaledrgncopperscaledrgn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Dwarf tossing is a big NO NO, I agree, plus the dwarf I would toss would likely be my son, who has been playing since first BETA. Thanks to everyone who responded. Would any of you mind if I add you as a friend? The only other person I know who is playing is my son and as you may guess, he does not want to play with his "mom"... Not at all.
  • copperscaledrgncopperscaledrgn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I may have to create a half orc too. I love playing them. My character is a rogue and her name is Tymorial. I am about to go ingame at the moment so I will keep in mind all you have said. Thanks again.
  • acylionacylion Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 93
    edited May 2013
    The only other person I know who is playing is my son and as you may guess, he does not want to play with his "mom"... Not at all.

    Your son's missing out. It sounds like he has a cool mom.

    There's a lot of great information in this thread. Here's a few additional comments, which I hope will help. I've tried to concentrate on stuff directly about MMOs (not RPGs in general) and Neverwinter in particular that might not be obvious on first glance.

    Social Stuff: Other posters here have mentioned it, but given this is a newly launched Free to Play game, there's a huge number of people playing. Some of those players are mature adults. Others...aren't. That's why zone and public chat channels can be unpleasant at times. If you see people behaving badly, don't be too put off - that's just how it is when there's a popular new game with a large crowd. There's plenty of great people playing this game too.

    Websites: I don't think anyone's mentioned it, but make sure you check out http://neverwinter.gamepedia.com/Neverwinter_Wiki

    That's the official wiki for this game. Since it's a wiki, it's not always up to date or accurate - even though it's an official site. But it does have a lot of useful information about key items of the game you may be wondering about.

    Another useful link is https://gateway.playneverwinter.com/

    That's the Neverwinter Gateway, which allows you to log in via the web and manage your auctions (buying and selling items with other players, eBay-style) and professions (crafting - where you can do timer-based tasks, e.g. anywhere from 5 min to 4 hrs to complete once started, granting you items and game rewards).

    This is a unique feature for Neverwinter, not a typical MMO thing. The ability to access at least a part of the game from anywhere, even on a smartphone, is quite cool...even if it doesn't work well with all mobile phones and browsers. At least I think so.

    Channels and Friendslists: Cryptic's games (Neverwinter, Champions Online and Star Trek Online) also have the unique feature of allowing in-game chat to be accessed from outside the game. That means I can use an instant messenger chat programme like Pidgin or Trillian on my computer or phone, and talk with people logged into the game. This works with custom chat channels - and there are a lot of custom community channels available, like NWRP for roleplayers, or real-world country/city specific channels.

    Like most MMOs these days, Neverwinter uses a system whereby you both have an account name (in your case @copperscaledrgn) and a character name, separate from that. When you friend-request someone in-game, you friend their account, not their character. Probably an important distinction to make.

    By default settings, you just see people's character-names when they talk in-game, e.g. Grokk Kneecapper. You can change this to display both their character and account name, e.g. Grokk Kneecapper@OrcPlayer1234

    The forum name displayed here is always the same as your @ account name in-game.

    Foundry: Another unique feature for Neverwinter is the Foundry system, which allows players to make their own quests and dungeons, putting them online for other people to play. This has been done before in other MMOs, but very rarely - and two of those games were created by this company anyway. Neverwinter's system is more elaborate than anything that's come before.

    The MMO Business Model (F2P): One more thing; if this is your first MMO, you're probably not familiar with how the business model works. Neverwinter's free to play, meaning that for basic game access you don't have to pay. You can do everything in the game without needing to pay, technically.

    But you are encouraged to make microtransactions for things like more character slots, more inventory space, cosmetic items, new companions and so on. You don't NEED any of those things, but they may be very nice to have. And for things like inventory space, you may feel limited without them.

    Some people like the microtransaction model. Other people don't, and find it ridiculous they have to pay for things like inventory slots and to change their character's appearance.

    With that said, Neverwinter allows you to exchange in-game currency (Astral Diamonds) to real cash currency (Zen) via player-determined exchange rates. That is, there's a market system where you can sell/trade your currencies with other players.

    This means it's theoretically possible to get all the so-called cash store items through regular gameplay. It may just take a lot of regular gameplay. Right now, though, the exchange rate is hugely favourable to people paying real cash. It will likely settle down as the game progresses.
  • pivovarnapivovarna Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    labbb wrote: »
    Ohh and dwarf tossing is fun . Its a great sport all us half-orcs enjoy.

    How do you toss dwarf? I'm small little half orc...
  • frostylawfrostylaw Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    How do I turn off zone chat? Tired already of seeing city-wide barrens chat.

    ...Actually, Barrens chat was worse.
  • copperscaledrgncopperscaledrgn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Acylion, thanks so much for all of this. I think a couple of things may even be new info for my son, which is rare. He is a game design student and avid MMO/RPG gamer and can keep up with the best of them, usually leading the pack. He has many friends playing here and in other MMO's so he has a great time. I would imagine at least one of them has tossed his character since he plays a dwarf a lot.

    As for the social aspect, I do want to learn the chat commands and use it, but right now the game itself has my total attention. So many times things pop up on screen that are things like, calling a companion and where and how, but by the time I notice it and try to read it, the text is gone forever. I have no idea of how to reclaim it. The kid has tried to coach me several times but it usually ends up annoying me instead, so he pretty much leaves me to it unless I ask. He and I played together in Champions Online and I never could get past the tutorial there. I have no idea of why, so I am not TOTALLY green, but mostly so. I did manage several tasks last night and went up 2 levels. I thought I started the evening at level 5 but was dismayed to see that after leveling twice I was now at level 5. Oh well.

    I have played the older Neverwinter games many times, all the incarnations and many mods. Loved it, but even when I was younger and my head was not spinning half of the time, so I could THINK more clearly. (grin)

    So I guess my account name to friend is Tymorial@copperscaledrgn. At least for now, unless I start a new character. This means I could possibly have one set of friends for each character and they may or may not be on both lists? That seems odd.

    Also, how do you find pricing on Zen? I have looked and can not find that info easily. Not good, IMHO.

    My son is VERY excited about the foundry. I am as well. I want to get myself up to about level 10 and get a little more than the basic gear I have and try to do one of the mods. I loved them in the old Neverwinter.

    One other question, can I see people across servers? If you and I are on different servers are we able to interact ingame? Can you change servers to be with friends if you are not able to simply join them because of this? I know the WOW issues with that and I know some other MMO's are not like that at all. How does it work here?

    I really, very much appreciate all the great info you have all given me, and I am going to pass on those links to my son too.
  • acylionacylion Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 93
    edited May 2013
    So many times things pop up on screen that are things like, calling a companion and where and how, but by the time I notice it and try to read it, the text is gone forever.

    The fact game manuals and documentation pretty much don't exist anymore...annoys me sometimes. As far as I can tell, there's pretty much no explanation regarding user interface elements - half the questions I answer in zone chat are about where to access certain things. I guess it can't be helped, since that's just the way of things.
    So I guess my account name to friend is Tymorial@copperscaledrgn. At least for now, unless I start a new character. This means I could possibly have one set of friends for each character and they may or may not be on both lists? That seems odd.

    No, for Neverwinter the friend lists are account-wide. When you log on your other character you will have the same friends - as in, the people. But if you look at your friends list, you may notice they're playing different characters. Their account handle is how you can really tell, of course.

    This is actually a change from older MMOs, where it was character-specific and worked as you describe.
    Also, how do you find pricing on Zen? I have looked and can not find that info easily. Not good, IMHO.

    When you go and buy Zen off the Perfect World website (https://billing.perfectworld.com/), the prices are listed. Basically, it's US $1 = 100 zen, though you get extra zen if you buy in larger quantities.

    As noted, you can also exchange Astral Diamonds (currency that you can earn in-game) for Zen, at player-determined prices. In-game, this is the third button along the bar at the middle top of your screen.
    One other question, can I see people across servers? If you and I are on different servers are we able to interact ingame?

    You can see your friends online (via friends lists) and speak to them on chat channels. You cannot meet up in-game or belong to the same guild, you cannot actually play together.

    This is because Cryptic uses a global server system. While playing Neverwinter, you can actually talk to players in Champions Online and Star Trek Online - though obviously, you can't team up with them.
    Can you change servers to be with friends if you are not able to simply join them because of this? I know the WOW issues with that and I know some other MMO's are not like that at all. How does it work here?

    There are no server changes. That's because the server system is only temporary. The idea is that all servers will be merged back into a single world at some point in the future.

    In the long term, Neverwinter will work like Champions Online and Star Trek Online - no separate servers, only one global game world.

    The three servers we have now were created as a population-balancing measure for launch, so Cryptic could control queues, minimise lag, avoid having server crashes take out the entire game, and so on. Obviously we have seen the entire game go down...but we've also seen Mindflayer crash while the other two servers were unaffected, so clearly the precautions were worthwhile.

    But this is temporary, and the servers will be merged. We don't know when, but the word is sooner rather than later.
    I really, very much appreciate all the great info you have all given me, and I am going to pass on those links to my son too.

    Happy to be of service!
  • copperscaledrgncopperscaledrgn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Acylion, what character do you play? Just curious.
  • acylionacylion Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 93
    edited May 2013
    My character names are Kaige and Danmaku (@Acylion, of course)...but I'm on Mindflayer.

    Of course, we are expecting all the three servers to merge into a global superserver once we're past this launch load and instability window. But who knows when that'll be.
  • elawynelawyn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    frostylaw wrote: »
    How do I turn off zone chat? Tired already of seeing city-wide barrens chat..

    Hit alt. move the mouse cursor over to the chat window. There are three tabs along the top, you can switch to a different tab, or click on the little gear wheel (top left). That allows you to set filters for the chat tab, you can choose what types of chat messages you want to see or not see.
  • zepheazephea Member Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Far out I wish they had manuals. This is not my first MMO but I am oh so lost with so much here. I've had to ask the most basic things in chat and searching for things like "injured" on the wiki get me no where. I hate asking so many stupid questions but what else can I do? I log in, think of all the stupid questions I need to ask, can't figure it out and log out again.

    Edit: I vaguely thought about buying a founders pack or something but I'm not so sure I want to stay now if I just constantly feel stupid.
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  • elawynelawyn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    zephea wrote: »
    Far out I wish they had manuals. This is not my first MMO but I am oh so lost with so much here. I've had to ask the most basic things in chat and searching for things like "injured" on the wiki get me no where. I hate asking so many stupid questions but what else can I do? I log in, think of all the stupid questions I need to ask, can't figure it out and log out again.

    Edit: I vaguely thought about buying a founders pack or something but I'm not so sure I want to stay now if I just constantly feel stupid.

    No, not 'stupid' at all. I still search for answers to some simple things in the forums here. Like "Where do my screenshots go?".

    Whenever I read something on the forums that I didn't know, assuming it's something that I want to remember, I make a note of it next to my computer. There are still plenty of things I have no clue about (like PvP).

    So, not knowing the convoluted means to something that sounds 'trivial' doesn't make you stupid. Letting it bother you so much might tho.

    In game chat at the moment, especially zone chat, is totally overwhelming. So many folks calling each other names that getting answers to questions there might not be the best approach. If you get frustrated because no-one is answering , try a forum search instead.
  • js3bjs3b Member Posts: 368 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    leillanna wrote: »
    If in a dungeon and you're about to open a chest and a cutscene starts showing a kobold laughing at you from behind a portcullis....IT"S A TRAP!!

    hahahah now thats is a nice advice :P
    Founder back a week ago, already pissed by cryptic ''no roll back'' decision


  • druga1757druga1757 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 76
    edited May 2013
    Sorry, couldn't find it in search, there should be a sticky thread with this stuff for newbies, and I can't start a new thread asking so I guess I have to spam other threads until I can start my own.

    How the hell do you find out what my handle is? I have friends I want to meet up in game, they tell me I need my handle, and I have no idea how to find it. They tell me it's my login/username, but there's no @ in my username, and I log in using my email.
  • copperscaledrgncopperscaledrgn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Thanks so much, elawyn!!! GREAT info to know.
  • copperscaledrgncopperscaledrgn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    js3b wrote: »
    hahahah now thats is a nice advice :P

    Much appreciated advice too! I think maybe my rogue would see the trap, though. Not sure, so I keep an eye out for a dancing kobold.
  • acylionacylion Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 93
    edited May 2013
    druga1757 wrote: »
    How the hell do you find out what my handle is? I have friends I want to meet up in game, they tell me I need my handle, and I have no idea how to find it. They tell me it's my login/username, but there's no @ in my username, and I log in using my email.

    If you go into mouse mode (alt key by default) and right-click on your own character portrait in the top left hand corner, it should display your handle. The @ is not actually part of the handle per-se, it just prefaces your handle so you know it's a handle.

    EDIT: Apologies if I'm wrong about it being visible there. I'm not in-game right now, so can't check.

    Chances are it'll be @druga1757, but it's possible you set the two up as something different when making your account.
  • noobswithboobsnoobswithboobs Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Hey all,

    I am also a newbie. Never played games like this and now I am lvl 16, but I cant reach higher, because I cant find any missions(dont know if they are called like that in this game lol). At first there were missions with 500-1200 EXP, but now I cant find them. I have 3 citys that are blue and I if I go to the red citys there are no quests for me (it says that my lvl is too small for them).

    any tips for me?

    PS: sorry for my english.
  • kimmurieloblodrakimmurieloblodra Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Hey all,

    I am also a newbie. Never played games like this and now I am lvl 16, but I cant reach higher, because I cant find any missions(dont know if they are called like that in this game lol). At first there were missions with 500-1200 EXP, but now I cant find them. I have 3 citys that are blue and I if I go to the red citys there are no quests for me (it says that my lvl is too small for them).

    any tips for me?

    PS: sorry for my english.

    go to Sergeant Knox. if he gives you a mission, great, do that one. if not, hit 'J'. find one that isn't one of the 'daily repeatables' and set your path to it. Follow the path and you should be ok
  • kyafoxkyafox Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I am super new to the game too, and I'd like someone to bounce questions off of. I hate that I have to target someone to talk to them. Once you have spoken to someone, is there a faster way to type to them or do you have to use "F" every time? I did figure out emotes, quests etc...Now I need help with nuances like changing macro keys to fighting etc. If anyone feels like helping a girl out, that would be awesome. I think I'm in "Beholder" character Kya Little Fox.
  • noobswithboobsnoobswithboobs Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    go to Sergeant Knox. if he gives you a mission, great, do that one. if not, hit 'J'. find one that isn't one of the 'daily repeatables' and set your path to it. Follow the path and you should be ok

    Thank you, kimmurieloblodra.
  • acylionacylion Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 93
    edited May 2013
    kyafox wrote: »
    I am super new to the game too, and I'd like someone to bounce questions off of. I hate that I have to target someone to talk to them. Once you have spoken to someone, is there a faster way to type to them or do you have to use "F" every time?

    You can hit the 'alt' key to enter mouse mode, then mouse over the player name, if it's still displayed next to something they said in your chat window. Right-clicking their actual name will pull up an option to send a private message. You can of course do the same on their name, if you sent them a friend request.

    Alternatively, even without going into mouse mode ('alt'), you can hit the enter key and start tying in the text field. The command to send a private message is:

    /t charactername@accountname, message
    (You can also use /tell, /w, /whisper as the initial command. They all work. You can also leave out the character name, and just /t @accountname)

    The thing is, this should actually auto-complete based on online players, or people you've recently spoken to, friends, etc. Using one of my own characters as an example, you could start typing...say, /t kaig ...and it'd autofill kaige@acylion.

    So that'd be: /t kaige@acylion, Hello.

    Variations on the above will function as noted, so /t @acylion, Hello will work, as will /w @acylion, etc.

    Account and character names may have capitalisation, but I think the commands aren't actually case-sensitive.

    It is possible there may be more than one autofill option for a given character or account name string, in which case you would need to select it from a list. Arrow keys up and down work for this, but I do tend to prefer just quickly hopping into the mouse mode via alt key to do stuff like this.
    Now I need help with nuances like changing macro keys to fighting etc.

    The easiest way to change keybinds is to hit the escape key, click options, and then go to the keybinds panel. It is possible to manually assign keys via the text chat window and /bind command, but you probably don't need to do that unless there's very specific macro behaviour you wish to accomplish. Fair warning, though - while there are some fancy tricks you can do with long slash command strings, this game system does not in general support very very complex macros.

    The game-provided system to reassign keys via the options menu works very well, though, better than previous MMOs by Cryptic. So I've mostly been fine with that, except for a few specific things that still need binds (like creating a toggle key to switch between walking and running).

    If you cannot find a good guide on console commands and slash keybinding for Neverwinter, the guides out there for Star Trek Online and Champions Online may be helpful, as the commands are mostly (though not entirely) the same across all three games. Neverwinter differs the most in that it doesn't have hard-targeting, though.
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