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rinny
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 14 Arc User
First off: There might be a way to get past this that I haven't noticed in game, and if so, please elaborate and then ignore this post. If not, then I have to say, it seriously feels like this game punishes me for trying to do get the games content done. Let me explain:
Quite often I party up with a friend of mine. For the first twenty levels or so, we did every quest together, and it worked fine at that point. After a while I outleveled my friend after he took a break, and I ended up in a different zone than him. Now, I was no more than a couple of levels over him, so we could still sign up for the same dungeons, do PvP together, sign up for skirmishes. But that right there is the issue. If we want to quest and level while waiting out the queues (which are pretty long), we.. literally can't. Because a majority of the quests in this game forces you to leave for another instance, at which point you suddenly need your friend which is located in another zone entirely. So to be able to continue our quests, we have to leave the party and then get kicked out of the queue. What the hell? Is this a bug or is it intentional? Am I missing something here, like I first stated? How can this have passed through initial game design? It feels like I'm literally forced to choose between either questing and doing "team stuff" (PvP, skirmish, dungeons) solo, or sit in the city/grind mobs while waiting for queues to pop with my mate.
It's essentially keeping me from enjoying the game at the moment. I can't be partied up and questing at the same time as I wait for queues to pop so I can PvP with my friend. What?
Quite often I party up with a friend of mine. For the first twenty levels or so, we did every quest together, and it worked fine at that point. After a while I outleveled my friend after he took a break, and I ended up in a different zone than him. Now, I was no more than a couple of levels over him, so we could still sign up for the same dungeons, do PvP together, sign up for skirmishes. But that right there is the issue. If we want to quest and level while waiting out the queues (which are pretty long), we.. literally can't. Because a majority of the quests in this game forces you to leave for another instance, at which point you suddenly need your friend which is located in another zone entirely. So to be able to continue our quests, we have to leave the party and then get kicked out of the queue. What the hell? Is this a bug or is it intentional? Am I missing something here, like I first stated? How can this have passed through initial game design? It feels like I'm literally forced to choose between either questing and doing "team stuff" (PvP, skirmish, dungeons) solo, or sit in the city/grind mobs while waiting for queues to pop with my mate.
It's essentially keeping me from enjoying the game at the moment. I can't be partied up and questing at the same time as I wait for queues to pop so I can PvP with my friend. What?
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I usually run around in teams with my friends so we can be signed up for dungeons/skirmishes or pvp, but still be in different areas, and this is not possible in this game. I believe this is one of the major issues that causes the long'ish' server queues.
It really pisses me off.
Find it funny people don't want downleveling content and they don't want sidekicking but they'll complain about things like this that are so easily fixable by their own actions...
This is not the way it is in most recent games I have played. Not being able to do your own thing while queued with someone else doing there own thing is nother other than poor gameplay mechanics that frustrates players and slows down the queues. So it impacts even those of you who play the "right" way.
This is not the way it is in most recent games I have played. Not being able to do your own thing while queued with someone else doing there own thing is nothing other than poor gameplay mechanics that frustrates players and slows down the queues. So it impacts even those of you who play the "right" way.
Baldur's Gate is a awsome game, and this feature brings back the propper meaning of a party.
That beeing sead, allowing people to que for pvp/dungeon/skirmishes while out in the world is not something I need. But beeing able to que with people on your friends list/guild would be nice I suppose.
But till then gather your party.
Whether you need it seems rather shortsighted to me. The fact is a lot of people do need it and it can be done without negatively impacting those who do not "need" it.
A checkbox for solo instances while in a party might be the sulution for it.
From a DnD point of view it makes perfect sence. However in a MMO setting it makes little sence. For a DM it tures into a real headace preaty fast if the party splits up. Unless if one of the party members is kidnappet, and the rest have to resque them. (PnP)
I might be shortsighted, but see my reasons above. By the time they implement it you both will be at the level cap, and it wonth matter at all :-/
If you both start alts again after they implement it, or for someone down the line that's a different matter entierly.
Overall it is a good mechanic. It only lacks allowing you the choice to enter a quest instance alone if you to while in a group. It is a small design flaw. But it is still a flaw and needs to be fixed.
All die, so die well.
Every time I see it in game I hear it in THAT voice. You must gather your party before venturing forth.
Also I wish there was no time restraint on switching instances of the same map. Often times when zoning while not grouped together, we get into different instances and we have to wait 2 minutes to switch to play with eachother. It'd be nice if you could join a groupmates instance without any form of time restriction - but the out of group restriction still remain the same. (Even though I think the restriction itself is terrible.)
I don't know about you but my queues take hours (if they even ever show before I've outlevelled what I'm queuing for). All the other stuff you mention above can be done in minutes (or in the case of crafting, isn't something you manually do at all for more than a few seconds every couple hours).
I had two more issues right now.
1) "the dead rats" bugged (another story) and we wanted to restart it. We couldn't just leave the instance (another story), so I left the party and my friend ran out. I reinvited her once outside, but since she was the last one in the instance she still couldn't quick-leave (another story). Anyway, at the EXIT, she couldn't leave the instance because it told her to gather the party. I were OUTSIDE. So she had to leave the party to leave the instance.
2) Entering again - she ended up in another instance of the outer world. While we were at the EXACT SAME SPOT in different instances, it told us to gather the party. She had to zone to my instance before we could enter again...
I understand the idea behind 'gather your party', but not the implementation. Since it bugs so much, and noone wants it, just kill it with fire...