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stonedbill
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So $60 "VIP" packs dont make you VIP? Doesnt VIP mean very important person? So why am I being shoved in a Que with people who didnt pay anything? 
Since when does that make sense?
Since when does that make sense? 
Smoke@stonedbill - Mindflayer - 60 Rogue
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This is how it should be.
Toons:
New: CW Level 60
GF = Level 60
DC = Level 60
TR = Level 60
Decubis: Dwarf Guardian Fighter: lvl 60
Demic: Human Devoted Cleric: lvl 60
Server: Beholder Guild: The Unnamed
I agree 100%, I would sub this game minus a cash shop and que times. For gods sake add more than 3 realms crypic sheesh
Smoke@stonedbill - Mindflayer - 60 Rogue
If you paid careful attention when you were looking at the packs, you would have seen that only the HotN pack mentioned priority access. I had hoped this was an oversight on their part, but also recognized the possibility it wasn't.
As it turned out, it wasn't, and Guardians have non-priority access.
Okay, but guardians should have a priority over free players. Period.
Smoke@stonedbill - Mindflayer - 60 Rogue
Which is the most illogical system ever. There must be a model somewhere that states people who spend money pre game launch will a) stay longer and b) spend more money. Even if no model exists to not have a tiered system which rewards people who are actively supporting the game is the most crazy thing I have ever heard.
Want to know why Neverwinter is so laggy? Check out the "Latency" section in this thread.
It would, however, be very nice if some changes were made to give Guardian players a middle ground in the queue, but they are by no means entitled to it. I'm not expecting it, but it would be nice.
I agree! ... except for the part where they are never called VIP packs. They are called founders packs and only HotN mentioned having VIP game access. I do, however, support the idea that Guardian pack purchasers should get at least a second tier of priority into the game. You did support the game for a significant amount. That should be worth some cutting in line over the completely free players. And if the HotN players still get priority over both guardians and free players then it wouldn't water down the value of their purchase.
All die, so die well.
I jumped in with a buddy, we were qued around 8k, we played 2 ARAMS in LoL, queue popped and then we proceeded to have a HILARIOUSLY GRAND OLE YE TIME shanking artificial *****es.
It was most excellent.
Sorry, I'm obliged to do this; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_system#Logical_system :P
Want to know why Neverwinter is so laggy? Check out the "Latency" section in this thread.
You're right, but wouldn't PWE logically think "hmm, he/she payed $60, so we already know they have money to spend. Lets keep them around to milk them some more." Instead, they are treating us as if we payed nothing at all with ridiculous, and i really mean horrendous, ques.
Smoke@stonedbill - Mindflayer - 60 Rogue
It isn't a question of ignorant players, per se. If I recall correctly both mentioned being VIP, but only HotN specifically mentioned priority access. There was enough reason to feel it may have been an omission in the Guardian description. A bit more clarity would have been wise so that customers would have had a better chance to have crystal clear expectations. It would have helped to stem some of the complaints at least. But, the world isn't a perfect place.
... Because it's a very good one, even if accidental. I may use it in my signature :P
Want to know why Neverwinter is so laggy? Check out the "Latency" section in this thread.
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They are treating you exactly the way the package you purchase read. It's not their fault that some people, including me, read something else into the package, or at least hoped that it offered more. To treat you like you paid nothing would have been to not give you the in game items you paid to have access to.
I expect the demand for the game exceeded their expectation, leading to login issues they weren't prepared for. I'm sure they tried to estimate the player demand for launch, but sometimes estimates just aren't right. At least they are scrambling to try to do something about the queue times, and keeping the players up to date on their efforts.
Ummm yes, yes, it was meant to be a pun... absolutely. Comic Genius R Me.
Heh, actually, purely accidental, but kind of amusing given the current situation.
They knew the game was going to blow up. Its been talked about for months on various forums and sites. They should have released with more than 3 servers. Put that founders money to use, because all the new content being pushed out now is user created.
Smoke@stonedbill - Mindflayer - 60 Rogue
You might have a couple more days to login to a 45 min Queue. Queue up a little before you play and dont give me any "i cant" stories. Get over it. You do realize you sound like a child. Its a game... Its less than a days pay. Grow up. Oh, and by saying "Period" doesnt make you right
Knowing it would bow up doesn't mean knowing with precision how much it will blow up. Should have, could have, would have, are all worthless sentiments. All that matters now is what is, and how they deal with it.
They have done an excellent job in keeping the player base informed as to their efforts, and are scrambling to get things in place, so it seems to me the are dealing with it quite well.
Of course all the new content in place is user generated. What did you expect? They are focusing on the rollout and issues related to that, as they should. At least there is a system in place for users to make new content until the developers have the ability to focus on it.
Regardless, one server with 3 shards serving the whole world? With the level of advertising PWE have done for this on their other titles, they would have known that the launch would do this.
Want to know why Neverwinter is so laggy? Check out the "Latency" section in this thread.
And this is the issue, anyone who pay's money for a founder/early access should be of slightly higher priority then the random free player who is not going to spend money on the product in all reality. I have no issue with people getting preferred consumer status like the HOTN people. However, its simply good business to not alienate a large portion of your paying consumer base, which is the 60$ package. At the end of the day though, they stated only the 200$ group would get priority que's so if it comes down to that i can not really complain about it, however its likely i will not bother to support the publisher/developer any farther, and i know many people feel that way as well.
It was pretty clear in the pack descriptions that HoTN would get this benefit and Guardians would not. RIF.
People would be wise to cool their jets a bit, and see how it sorts out after a few days of their efforts to get things back on track, regarding the high queue times. Almost every MMO has some issues at launch after all. Some are quick at fixing them. Perhaps Neverwinter will be among the quick ones.
Point being we got exactly what we paid for and just because we paid and some did not does not make us more deserving? Think people tend to forget this is first and foremost a F2P game buying it was "optional"!