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deretto
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Nothing against the usual western fantasy races. I personally like to stray as far as human looking as possible. Whether its some sort of Xenomorph, gnolls, giant spider or whatever. It'd be nice to have options outside of varying ears, skin color, and height.
Tiefling is the closest to this and will probably be my choice at the start of the beta.
Tiefling is the closest to this and will probably be my choice at the start of the beta.
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Depending on how strict the license with Wizards of the Coast is, it's entirely possible that this game's developers can't offer too many non-standard races, or would need approval from WoC. Maybe, maybe not. I have no idea. But that's the reason a lot of stuff can't be put into Star Trek Online, Cryptic's other big licensed MMO. Either the license doesn't include certain stuff, or the owners of the property won't let Cryptic put some things in-game.
It's not a deal breaker for me, but it would open up the game more to myself and possibly a larger audience.
I know it sounds dismissive, but in this case, you may want to look for a different game if you are really craving a more "unique" race selection.
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Although I hear we'll be getting Dragonborn soon, which is a step in the right direction.
These should also be added as playable species:
Goliaths, Warforged, Genasi, Orcs, Gnolls, Kobolds, Thri-Kreen, Wilden, Yuan-Ti.
Notice the tiefling's horns are not part of their head, seamlessly crafted, they are just stuck on, clipping awkwardly through the head. The tiefling is just a recolored human - all we have are resized, recolored humans, for all our races.
There are tons of races which would be wonderfully applicable for 4th ed on the Sword Coast, but we got the easy-to-make ones that all can be based off the same model/skeletal structure for armor and such.
This guy, this guy gets it.
it is FAR easier to "make" humanoid characters and just "reskin" certain parts than it is to make unique races.
A tiefling, as an example, has horns that clip through your helmets or the tail that clips through..everything.
GW2 atleast had "racial armor" that looked like it was made for that particular race. Not so here it seems.
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Also ranger and warlock.
Then after that, maybe, just maybe, we'll get multiple paragon paths per class.
Wrong, Tieflings can be any alignment without breaking lore. They just have a tendency to lean to chaotic due to their heritage. So CG, CN and CE tend to be most common for them with CN and CE standing above CG. Now if you really want out of sorts for good then look to the Drow. They're the ones that are out of place when it comes to anything outside of evil. Nor is it common to see them above ground due to the fact their eyes have trouble with the light. So, if anything, Drows are the ones stretching it a bit far as is. That said, I wish they had Gnomes. They have every other base race. Not sure why they got left out.
Each race in that game feels entirely unique and has a completely individual body structure. Not to mention the animations are all unique to each race. Can't say that for any other MMO really. Even EQ2 the Iksar just felt like humans with a scaley texture and a tail, big fat Ogres run and fight exactly like a little Halfling etc.
I think Tieflings are the worst idea for D&D races so far. In both table top and PC games.
What's worse is they look like Sith from Star Wars TOR, with added tails and some shoddy horns.
Whoever is making the decisions at WotC/Hasbro needs to be removed. All of the rare and unique snowflake races and sub-races like Drow, Dragonborn and Tieflings should be struck from future books. Wipe them out and bring back traditional core D&D, with special expansions packs and campaign settings.
I'd rather see core races like this:
Human
Dwarf
Elf
Gnome
Halfling
Half-Orc
Half-Elf
Any odd feature like Tiefling horns or tail should merely be a cosmetic option and a selected ability from a pool of racial abilities.
4e ****ed D&D. 5e better get it's **** sorted.
And if those are not to your liking at least they are out of the way and moving onto the next.
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Most probably yes. Although I consider the 4th Edition Tiefling and the Bioware True Sith to be one and the same.
They were created by Wolfgang Baur & Dave Cook for the Planescape setting in 2nd Edition, but I don't think they were meant to be a mainstream race. Even if they were, this is what they looked like:
They don't really need more races in NWO, just more variety to the currently available ones.
Why are Half-Elves and Half-Orcs always half humans?
That'll be a nice start. Would be cool to play as a gnoll, though.
Aren't Vikings human? I think it would be more of a class you are looking for. Barbarian?
Ah! It didn't take long for the traditionalists to crop up, those miserable, self centered lot.
I for one will shall note no heed of the above comment and still support those unique 'snow flake' races.
Why? Because people I've played with, campaign wise, who've worked with one of those characters?
Not only did it improve their skill as a roleplayer, but it made them more open minded to new scenarios.
And really, they've been better off because of it. Some of them even went on to become great DMs.
Hell, even their characters became annotated as epic memories of the past, rather than others.
Specifically over that of the humans (in varying differences) which we now find too easy to play with.
Indeed, my local meetings are more prone to evolve into 'alien/monster' campaigns for fun/difficulty now.
Underwater Abolethic adventure? Desert campaign for the Tohr-Kreen? Demonic exploring into Hell's depths?
We'll do it! For D&D isn't about restrictions, it's about being creative. Letting your imagination run wild.
Haha yes. I'm not really that fond of elves, halflings and dwarves to be honest since they are basically just humans. Why bother having those as separate races when you could have just humans and have haflings/dwarves and elves as variants. I mean little people exist in real life too and they are certainly identified as humans and not halflings. Add a bit magic and you can have a lean human with pointy ears and long lifespan (or fat human with pointy ears for that matter too).
I prefer more exotic races like the traditional lizardfolk or if they have to be fully "humanoid" then go for races like Goblins which don't look that much like small humans. I never liked the "strays too much from baseline human means it's automatically evil" campaigns either.
I've got to say, I never really thought D&D's editions should have put emphasis on the half-races.
Same now with Neverwinter. But I don't mind Orcs, Elves, Dwarves or Halflings as full blown playable races.
Because they have plentiful and unique backgrounds within much of the D&D settings, for near-humans.
Now in following with this personal opinion, yes, I'd agree with your latter appreciation of the exotic,
as I so hinted before with my previous comment. This should go together with a compliance of shared
dislike towards people stereotyping quaintly differed races into being completely evil beyond redemption.