IMO, Lockboxes have one use - making me AD (in amounts of about 170 each, after AH tax). I am much happier with them after thinking of them as free AD rather than something I have to open.
Actually, you don't even need an npc. Open up your inventory and click the currencies tab. Next to Astral diamonds push "spend" and select "store". Then, click the "Special Items" tab and you'll see a bunch of pets, mounts, and the lockboxes.
If you're going to buy a lockbox, please check the AH first. Many players are offering them for less than 200AD. At least buying it there will get you a box and put AD in a player's pocket rather than an NPC's.
Thanks!
L'sya Raiya
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voidacusMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited April 2013
I was under the impression that most things in this game "could" be obtained freely. Either converting currency to diamonds, etc.
Maybe I need a primer on how this all works, anyone point me to an article explaining it?
Thanks!
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sormirMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 13Arc User
edited April 2013
Yes, you can convert your Astral Diamonds into ZEN, via the Astral Diamond Exchange in game.
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walkerMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 0Arc User
I was under the impression that most things in this game "could" be obtained freely. Either converting currency to diamonds, etc.
Maybe I need a primer on how this all works, anyone point me to an article explaining it?
Thanks!
there are 3 currencies
the standard copper/silver/gold: this is pointless pretty much and lets you buy potions, and kits that's about it, this is what you earn by playing the game normally, it is pretty much pointless later on
Astral Diamonds: this is the currency which is used to pretty much buy everything and is used in the AH.... want to earn it?
see heres the catch outside of a few things like say..... opening a lockbox that cost you real money to buy the key for.... or buying AD from other players using real money you can only get rough astral diamonds which you can refine into real astral diamonds.... up to 24,000 a day
what a wonderful mechanic oh and one other thing people who got founders get 2 mill astral and 600k depending on the pack so they jump started the economy there, just wait for the slew of F2P who then join and cant get more than 10,000 a day unless they work there *** off while founders sit with there cool 2 mill asking for 7 million for there new flaming mount (im not joking here I mean keep in mind the max you can have to start out with is 2.6 million and refine 24,000 per day and theres a dude asking for 7 million for his horse on the AH right now GEEEE I WONDER IF ANYONE WILL BUY IT?)
then there's Zen this is the stuff you buy for cash and is used from increasing your bank by 16 slots (you start with 16 slots and can only upgrade with real money) to buying a key to a random lock box to buying a new companion. This is your standard F2P MMO fare currency (ignoring the laughable low bank space everyone on vent burst out laughing when they found out... it was literally the only time iv ever seen a bank give less slots than a standard backpack in an MMO ever.... F2P or otherwise) and that's the currency system.
I think you will all agree that it is a wonderful system that in no way is simply there to crush any F2P idea of having any fun in the game what so ever.
the standard copper/silver/gold: this is pointless pretty much and lets you buy potions, and kits that's about it, this is what you earn by playing the game normally, it is pretty much pointless later on
Astral Diamonds: this is the currency which is used to pretty much buy everything and is used in the AH.... want to earn it?
see heres the catch outside of a few things like say..... opening a lockbox that cost you real money to buy the key for.... or buying AD from other players using real money you can only get rough astral diamonds which you can refine into real astral diamonds.... up to 24,000 a day
what a wonderful mechanic oh and one other thing people who got founders get 2 mill astral and 600k depending on the pack so they jump started the economy there, just wait for the slew of F2P who then join and cant get more than 10,000 a day unless they work there *** off while founders sit with there cool 2 mill asking for 7 million for there new flaming mount (im not joking here I mean keep in mind the max you can have to start out with is 2.6 million and refine 24,000 per day and theres a dude asking for 7 million for his horse on the AH right now GEEEE I WONDER IF ANYONE WILL BUY IT?)
then there's Zen this is the stuff you buy for cash and is used from increasing your bank by 16 slots (you start with 16 slots and can only upgrade with real money) to buying a key to a random lock box to buying a new companion. This is your standard F2P MMO fare currency (ignoring the laughable low bank space everyone on vent burst out laughing when they found out... it was literally the only time iv ever seen a bank give less slots than a standard backpack in an MMO ever.... F2P or otherwise) and that's the currency system.
I think you will all agree that it is a wonderful system that in no way is simply there to crush any F2P idea of having any fun in the game what so ever.
You forgot Ardent and Celestial coins, also known as "It's okay, I'll wait a year to get my companion" currencies. >_>
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starkaosMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited April 2013
The main draw for the Lockbox is Tarmalune Trade Bars which purchase various things from the Tarmalune Trade Bar Store, Heavy Inferno Nightmare mount, the Phoera companion (phoenix companion), and other things. To get that flaming horse by the Mount store, you need to open up lockboxes or purchase it through the Auction House. Mousing over the Nightmare Lockbox shows what might be rewarded.
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walkerMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 0Arc User
The main draw for the Lockbox is Tarmalune Trade Bars which purchase various things from the Tarmalune Trade Bar Store, Heavy Inferno Nightmare mount, the Phoera companion (phoenix companion), and other things. To get that flaming horse by the Mount store, you need to open up lockboxes or purchase it through the Auction House. Mousing over the Nightmare Lockbox shows what might be rewarded.
tbh the 2500 tarmalune bar mount is basically the same flaming mount except the fire is blue.... and by that fact (iv seen 2 people who already have it ingame thats like what?
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starkaosMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
tbh the 2500 tarmalune bar mount is basically the same flaming mount except the fire is blue.... and by that fact (iv seen 2 people who already have it ingame thats like what?
Just shows they have too much money or will suffer buyer's remorse from spending too much money on a bunch of pixels. IMO the Twilight Nightmare looks better than the Heavy Inferno Nightmare. Coming from STO, I think people are pretty much screwed here when it comes to lockboxes. At least the big draw is a cool looking ship that you fight with and has unique abilities. The lockbox mount is the same as the spider mount except its just a flaming horse. There is no benefit to it compared to any other Rank 3 mount. The Phoera companion seems to be the draw since it gives a unique companion that fights with you.
Not sure how else you get Tarmalune Trade Bars or are the Nightmare lock boxes it? I believe you get 10 bars per box, so that's 250 boxes, with keys being $1.12 per (if you buy 10 at a time), thus $280 for enough bars to buy the mount.
I don't mind paying for micro transactions when they're reasonable, and I've given other companies a fair bit of money, but these prices are insane.
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starkaosMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
bro this game wont last a year. either way... eso comes out in few months...
Same thing has been said about Star Trek Online when it launched and guess what it just past its 3 year anniversary. Just because a company releases an MMO from a well known game and has a huge budget doesn't mean it will be successful. Just look at how SWTOR did in its first year. ESO might do well or it might not. It is still too early to say how well it will do. Besides there is very little chance that ESO will come out this year.
Having the shiniest items in game 1st is definitely gonna cost you.... i'd say 6 months of game play and grinding the prices will drop by ALOT and you can buy them after 50-11 people already have gotten them... In other wards don't cry about how much the items cost you don't have to have them....
Not sure how else you get Tarmalune Trade Bars or are the Nightmare lock boxes it? I believe you get 10 bars per box, so that's 250 boxes, with keys being $1.12 per (if you buy 10 at a time), thus $280 for enough bars to buy the mount.
I don't mind paying for micro transactions when they're reasonable, and I've given other companies a fair bit of money, but these prices are insane.
IMO, Lockboxes have one use - making me AD (in amounts of about 170 each, after AH tax). I am much happier with them after thinking of them as free AD rather than something I have to open.
They sold for 300+ on the AH during the headstart for some silly reason, proving that there are people with more money than sense playing this game. And no, I did not exploit this by buying a bunch from the vendor, I merely sold the ones that dropped for 250-350 (usually took less than 5 minutes for someone to click the buyout button on a lockbox for 350).
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bendrikMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 16Arc User
ESO, hahahaha. I saw the first gameplay videos that were leaked and that game looks like absolute ****.
Word around the campfire is that the beta code is mostly finished code, so its not going to get much better.
Word around the campfire is people will believe anything on the internet. That leak was meant to make the game look bad, the guy turned down the graphics or was playing on a total HAMSTER computer and he jumped around being a dumby not doing anything to make it look bad. Why anyone would take a leakers leak as law I don't know. Anyone willing to leak beta is obviously not the kind of person you want to trust. Get a clue folks, a game cannot be judged until it is out.
ESO, hahahaha. I saw the first gameplay videos that were leaked and that game looks like absolute ****.
Word around the campfire is that the beta code is mostly finished code, so its not going to get much better.
The issue with that gameplay video is the same issue that happened with SWTOR, fans expecting something that was never there. Bioware fans were hyping SWTOR as the new game that would set a new standard for mmos, when Bioware themselves stated it would be a standard mmo just with added story. Then people got upset when it was exactly like Bioware said and not what they expected.
ESO will be the same way.
Sure, since it's basically Skyrim Online, fans of Skyrim will flock to it. The game will be very pleasing to those die-hard Elder Scrolls fans, but for other people it will be just another mmo with Purdy Graphics.
dlcarterMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
Thing is some of the top "main" people behind Skyrim now work at Turbine.
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kwondo731Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 1Arc User
edited May 2013
I managed to pick up a few lockboxes this morning while my inventory was full but now I can't seem to find them, anyone know where they go if you happen to loot one with a full inventory?
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And this npc lady is where?
Actually, you don't even need an npc. Open up your inventory and click the currencies tab. Next to Astral diamonds push "spend" and select "store". Then, click the "Special Items" tab and you'll see a bunch of pets, mounts, and the lockboxes.
Im worry about overpower gear coming from them
Thanks!
Maybe I need a primer on how this all works, anyone point me to an article explaining it?
Thanks!
there are 3 currencies
the standard copper/silver/gold: this is pointless pretty much and lets you buy potions, and kits that's about it, this is what you earn by playing the game normally, it is pretty much pointless later on
Astral Diamonds: this is the currency which is used to pretty much buy everything and is used in the AH.... want to earn it?
see heres the catch outside of a few things like say..... opening a lockbox that cost you real money to buy the key for.... or buying AD from other players using real money you can only get rough astral diamonds which you can refine into real astral diamonds.... up to 24,000 a day
what a wonderful mechanic oh and one other thing people who got founders get 2 mill astral and 600k depending on the pack so they jump started the economy there, just wait for the slew of F2P who then join and cant get more than 10,000 a day unless they work there *** off while founders sit with there cool 2 mill asking for 7 million for there new flaming mount (im not joking here I mean keep in mind the max you can have to start out with is 2.6 million and refine 24,000 per day and theres a dude asking for 7 million for his horse on the AH right now GEEEE I WONDER IF ANYONE WILL BUY IT?)
then there's Zen this is the stuff you buy for cash and is used from increasing your bank by 16 slots (you start with 16 slots and can only upgrade with real money) to buying a key to a random lock box to buying a new companion. This is your standard F2P MMO fare currency (ignoring the laughable low bank space everyone on vent burst out laughing when they found out... it was literally the only time iv ever seen a bank give less slots than a standard backpack in an MMO ever.... F2P or otherwise) and that's the currency system.
I think you will all agree that it is a wonderful system that in no way is simply there to crush any F2P idea of having any fun in the game what so ever.
You forgot Ardent and Celestial coins, also known as "It's okay, I'll wait a year to get my companion" currencies. >_>
tbh the 2500 tarmalune bar mount is basically the same flaming mount except the fire is blue.... and by that fact (iv seen 2 people who already have it ingame thats like what?
Just shows they have too much money or will suffer buyer's remorse from spending too much money on a bunch of pixels. IMO the Twilight Nightmare looks better than the Heavy Inferno Nightmare. Coming from STO, I think people are pretty much screwed here when it comes to lockboxes. At least the big draw is a cool looking ship that you fight with and has unique abilities. The lockbox mount is the same as the spider mount except its just a flaming horse. There is no benefit to it compared to any other Rank 3 mount. The Phoera companion seems to be the draw since it gives a unique companion that fights with you.
I don't mind paying for micro transactions when they're reasonable, and I've given other companies a fair bit of money, but these prices are insane.
Same thing has been said about Star Trek Online when it launched and guess what it just past its 3 year anniversary. Just because a company releases an MMO from a well known game and has a huge budget doesn't mean it will be successful. Just look at how SWTOR did in its first year. ESO might do well or it might not. It is still too early to say how well it will do. Besides there is very little chance that ESO will come out this year.
On average, I've gotten 1, and 90.
Word around the campfire is that the beta code is mostly finished code, so its not going to get much better.
Word around the campfire is people will believe anything on the internet. That leak was meant to make the game look bad, the guy turned down the graphics or was playing on a total HAMSTER computer and he jumped around being a dumby not doing anything to make it look bad. Why anyone would take a leakers leak as law I don't know. Anyone willing to leak beta is obviously not the kind of person you want to trust. Get a clue folks, a game cannot be judged until it is out.
The issue with that gameplay video is the same issue that happened with SWTOR, fans expecting something that was never there. Bioware fans were hyping SWTOR as the new game that would set a new standard for mmos, when Bioware themselves stated it would be a standard mmo just with added story. Then people got upset when it was exactly like Bioware said and not what they expected.
ESO will be the same way.
Sure, since it's basically Skyrim Online, fans of Skyrim will flock to it. The game will be very pleasing to those die-hard Elder Scrolls fans, but for other people it will be just another mmo with Purdy Graphics.
Meh say what you want, but that video was purposefully made to make ESO look bad. Here's some real footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DlJOPoXUiko
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