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Why so many classes listed on NW wiki? Are there going to be a lot more?

martianmanrapermartianmanraper Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 61
edited April 2013 in PvE Discussion
I'm a bit confused. On NW wiki there are more than 25 classes listed. Does that mean you can specialize after choosing one of the base classes (rogue, wizard, fighter, cleric)?

Some of the classes listed are Barbarian, Druid, Shaman, Seeker, Warden. Are these other classes just speculation or will there be a bunch for choose from?

Thanks for any help.
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  • erideitaerideita Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 304
    edited April 2013
    They are classes that exist in the 4E rules and might end up becoming playable in Neverwinter at a later date.
  • martianmanrapermartianmanraper Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 61
    edited April 2013
    Ah ok, thank you for the response. I thought they were releasing with a <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> load of classes like Rift at first. Got my hopes up for a bit. Still awesome stuff though.
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  • rabbinicusrabbinicus Member Posts: 1,822 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    People who have datamined the game have found the Archer Ranger and Scourge Warlock already in the game. They may be placeholders, but I suppose we will find out soon! :)
    The right to command is earned through duty, the privilege of rank is service.


  • cristiel2014cristiel2014 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    rabbinicus wrote: »
    People who have datamined the game have found the Archer Ranger and Scourge Warlock already in the game. They may be placeholders, but I suppose we will find out soon! :)
    Oh wow, those two sound like fun. It would be great to have them both in-game for open beta! :)
  • piratedrugallpiratedrugall Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 45
    edited April 2013
    My only concern with those two is that they're both strikers... I mean, we kind of have that area covered. It'd be nice to see another Defender, Controller or Leader.
  • erideitaerideita Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 304
    edited April 2013
    There is only one striker class in game at the moment, two if you count GWF as a striker. Another one wouldn't hurt that bad in my opinion, even though I agree another Leader class would be nice, preferably a buffer or a debuffer.
  • adozuadozu Member Posts: 477 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    scourge warlock could easily carry debuffs in it's arsenal. i mean, it's a ranged class so it "shouldn't" be as dps heavy as the melee dps rogue so it's not too far fetched to imagine it will have the potential to fill a dps role or a leader role. i guess not a controller one or it would just overlap with the CW too much.
  • silknightsilknight Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 199
    edited April 2013
    I'd love to see a paladin defender in game.
  • rabbinicusrabbinicus Member Posts: 1,822 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    cristiel2014 wrote: »
    Oh wow, those two sound like fun. It would be great to have them both in-game for open beta! :)

    Not even ten days and we'll know! :)
    The right to command is earned through duty, the privilege of rank is service.


  • kotlikotli Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 577
    edited April 2013
    Well know if a class sneaked in on the 25th. I really want a ranged striker/DPS class to stop all the Rogue overpower spam ^^.

    Anyway that listing on Neverwinter Wiki is really the D&D 4E class list. The problem is none of them are going to be in NWO what we will have is sub-classes of these. Case in point the 4ed Fighter is split into Guardian and Two handers in game. These are 2 of the 3 subtypes of D&D fighters the 3rd is the Tempest or two weapon Fighter.
  • lichlamentlichlament Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Sadly do not see any upcoming options for a Necromancer in the short term future... :mad:
  • adozuadozu Member Posts: 477 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    considering right now you start off fighting against a necromancer attempted invasion of neverwinter it would look pretty weird to have a necromancer do the job.
  • kotlikotli Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 577
    edited April 2013
    lichlament wrote: »
    Sadly do not see any upcoming options for a Necromancer in the short term future... :mad:

    They will be a subset of an other magic using class. Normal they are Wizards specializing in the Undead.
  • lichlamentlichlament Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    adozu wrote: »
    considering right now you start off fighting against a necromancer attempted invasion of neverwinter it would look pretty weird to have a necromancer do the job.

    A Lich to be more precise... and Liches and Necros usually are Chaotic Evil and do not have one problem eliminating the competition ;o)
  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Necromancer is a separate class with arcane source origin. There are specializations in necromancy too, then there is shadowmancer (or something) who combines the shadow source with necromancy.

    For complete list of builds (except shadow classes and classes in heroes of shadows)
    http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?23911-Brief-Lore-Intro&p=811941#post811941

    I did not include the shadow related classes as their list was included after hybrid became well known. So there was not much point in releasing 'recommended builds' as experts were playing them already.
  • adozuadozu Member Posts: 477 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    i know necromancers have no issues eliminating each other, i just don't see a necromancer as the "hero of neverwinter" who liberated nevewrinter from the grip of an evil necromancer.

    it's like asking godzilla to get rid of that big monkey on the empire state.
  • lichlamentlichlament Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I guess the more appropriate thought would be...

    " the lesser of 2 evils "
  • lichlamentlichlament Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    gillrmn wrote: »
    Necromancer is a separate class with arcane source origin. There are specializations in necromancy too, then there is shadowmancer (or something) who combines the shadow source with necromancy.

    For complete list of builds (except shadow classes and classes in heroes of shadows)
    http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?23911-Brief-Lore-Intro&p=811941#post811941

    I did not include the shadow related classes as their list was included after hybrid became well known. So there was not much point in releasing 'recommended builds' as experts were playing them already.

    So are we to expect Necromancers in the future during OB or after formal launch ?
    I would be what you call a semi - expert... 30 years of D&D but most spent on 2E ( AD&D )
  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    lichlament wrote: »
    So are we to expect Necromancers in the future during OB or after formal launch ?
    I would be what you call a semi - expert... 30 years of D&D but most spent on 2E ( AD&D )

    Necromancers/shadow classes are canon for this game. There is nothing to stop the devs from implementing them at any point.

    However currently we go to shadowfell for only a little bit. Devs said they have plans for shadowfell (and evernight). So I would guess that the class would be introduced after that expanson which will be quite sometime later.


    However if there are enough people demanding that class, devs can always sneak it up and introduce it before others. As the lore supports having such classes.
  • kilo418kilo418 Member Posts: 823 Arc User
    edited April 2013
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  • killacaseykillacasey Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I thought they were going to do the Dual wielding ranger over Archer ranger? I say Archer ranger all the way anyways, despite developer decisions. This game already has too much melee in comparison to ranged. :(
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  • kotlikotli Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 577
    edited April 2013
    killacasey wrote: »
    I thought they were going to do the Dual wielding ranger over Archer ranger? I say Archer ranger all the way anyways, despite developer decisions. This game already has too much melee in comparison to ranged. :(

    They are doing both it just the melee one making more progress towards releasable state than the archer is, means it likely to release first.
  • malagarrmalagarr Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    My hope is we'll see a lot more classes. The only way they can really get away with keeping the classes as limited as they are right now (ie...no true customization of powers/feats) is if they go back to the 1st Edition model and put in a class for every occasion.
  • lichlamentlichlament Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I would hope Necromancer is pushed open during OB or @ Launch...

    the storyline could support it as well...
    • Loyal to Valindra
    • Shadovar
    • Puppet of Larloch
    • accomplice to the Twisted Rune
    • newest apprentice to Aumvor


    Or as most Necromancers are... on their own, devious and nefarious plans, a path to Lichdom ( epic quest one would hope ? ) , in search of power and knowledge... to take control of Faerun and grasp it into it's skeletal hand... and Valindra is just in the way... and so is everyone else...



    Yeah, the Lore and quest building and story line is limitless...
  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    A background of Red Wizard renegade can be used in necromancy - but it needs to be tweaked because Thay renegade usually give up Thay as they are averse to necromancy (though not necessarily).

    But they may have to add a separate intro/origin for the evil renegade classes.
  • ironzerg79ironzerg79 Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,942 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    lichlament wrote: »
    to take control of Faerun and grasp it into it's skeletal hand... and Valindra is just in the way... and so is everyone else...

    *Ahem* Szass Tam would like to have a word with you. In private. :)
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  • tekarutekaru Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    With the revelation that they are making class-specific storylines, I wonder how that will factor into new classes being introduced?!?
  • kotlikotli Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 577
    edited April 2013
    tekaru wrote: »
    With the revelation that they are making class-specific storylines, I wonder how that will factor into new classes being introduced?!?

    Link to source?
  • erideitaerideita Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 304
    edited April 2013
    There is not really any need to cite sources since those quests already were in BWE4.

    Source: me having played BWE4.
  • nec0enec0e Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    i assume over time they will add many of the other types that fit into the presets similar to how there is gwf and gf, similarly i can easily see a assassin rogue or war wizard being added.
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