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Best Race for GWF?
x3lade
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I'm wondering what would be the best race for the Great Weapon Fighter class, and I'm wondering if you will be greatly penalized if not choosing those race because of racial benefits
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I dont believe this is the case, many places including this site (though it is incomplete at the moment) have the racials listed differently. Also gameplay videos on youtube will show the racials but here is a link to a quick overview. http://www.neverwinter-online.com/races/
Anyway it really comes down to what Dice numbers to get for each race though.
But because I bought the Heroes of the North pack I feel that I must roll a dark elf lol... Does anyone know what 3 racials they get?
For me, if it becomes a controller as well, crowd controlling mobs, stats might be much more important than the passive racials of each class.
Right now, the two top choices for a striker based GWF is Tiefling and Half orc in second.
To reference City of Heroes and City of Villains:
Guardian = Tank / DPS
GWF = DPS / Tank
Not all classes have dual roles, however, because I think the Rogue is just a straight up killing machine "Single Target DPS". The Cleric is "Healing / DPS" and the Control Wizard is "AOE Control / DPS". It appears to me that none of the classes are overlapping other than the inherent ability to do any kind of DPS. They all have totally different flavors about them.
From what we see in the videos, imo it is a Fighter skin of Berserker. So I would sill consider it as striker. Half-orc ftw!
Off tank, maybe, but I say it is more a controller/striker type character.
*head explodes*
Oriented! Offensively Oriented Fighter. Orientate is not a word.
But yeah. Um... They're Defenders. They do more damage than a Guardian Fighter and lose the Shield, but they make up for the loss of passive damage mitigation in exchange for active damage mitigation, such as knockback or stun effects. They will likely be more useful in swarm based combat and less useful against single hard targets, for the purposes of tanking, due to how limited active damage mitigation is on hard targets (such as bosses). Personally I can't wait to roll up my Half Orc Great Weapon Fighter.
Here's hoping they offer us some big axes or hammers and not just swords.
-Rachel-
Orientate is a word. British as well.
Still, I would argue that causing "bosses" to be knocked down or otherwise unable to strike back isn't tanking, as blocking, taking damage is.
I find, how they've explained the Great Weapon Fighter to be much more of a controller than the control wizard gets credit for.
Offensively Turn and Face East Fighter doesn't make sense, though (Orientate means to turn towards the Orient, in the East).
But yeah. It's not "Tanking" by blocking or taking damage, no. That isn't the core of tanking, either. Tanking is about aggro management. Most games have players who manage aggro take less damage through armor or heal much faster than other characters, or whatever. Armor and shields, however, are not the core of tanking. They're methods that allow you -to- tank. They are a form of damage mitigation, usually relative (percentage-based) but in rare instances you get absolute damage mitigation (like Champions Online has in it's Invulnerability powers). Control effects and debuffs are also methods of damage mitigation, they are simply -active- mitigation rather than passive mitigation.
Wearing a suit of armor takes no effort on the player's part. You don't spend actions "Wearing Armor Harder" to increase your mitigation. Your shield, on the other hand, is an active damage mitigation effect. You actively (to the exclusion of other abilities) increase your mitigation in that situation. But you can't block and use a daily attack power at the same time.
Control effects (like knock or stun, immobilize or slow) are another form of active damage mitigation. Their only function is to lower the maximum incoming damage. If you've got 2 guys throwing 100 points of damage in 6 seconds and you hold one of them completely for 6 seconds you have lowered the incoming damage to 50 points. Is that any different than wearing heavy armor that grants passive damage resistance of 50%?
The only difference lies in whether it is active or passive. A passive benefit allows you to continue attacking without "Missing a Beat". This is why most control effects also have a damage component, to offset the lost action-time spent activating them. Whether it's a shout that knocks your enemies down or lifting them up in a Force-Choke or whatever.
Mitigation is part of tanking, but tanking is not exclusively mitigation. Similarly, passive and active mitigation can both be used in tanking to minimize incoming damage, to allow you to tank (control aggro) longer.
And yes; Healing is also a damage mitigation function. So popping pots or self-heal powers is another example of active damage mitigation!
-Rachel-
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