VIP room needs some gambling. Former High limit dealer willing to help!

tricide5150 · March 2013

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Ok, here is an idea. I used to be a High Limit Blackjack and Texas Holdem' dealer in a cardroom and a nice big Stations Casino. I think a great idea for the VIP room is to add, a Never Holdem' tables where we can use our real in game moneys to play a variety of games. From limit to no limit games. I know the rules inside and out. I am willing to help out with this if you guys add it in. The rule sets of the game probably wouldn't be much work for you guys and I can help define the rules. We do know that casinos are apart of the world. So, lets make one.
To let you know why its worth the trouble to code into your game. Look at the fact that this is a pay game, people will want to purchase diamonds and gold from you guys to play the casino game as well. Know that, gambling is even more addicting that simple gaming when you add in stuff to win.

As a dealer I am not lieing to you when I say that this added to your game whether its just for VIP or not, you could have non founders tip the door man to enter for the day

If more people like this and make up more ideas for the Holdem format please let me know, if we get this in we can start a portfolio for more. So, for now - Stick to ideas about the Holdem casino.

Thank you,

Justin

babylon · March 2013

I dunno, is it even legal to add real money gambling to an MMO? Probably not :eek: except where it's disguised as those little drop items that require you to buy keys to open them

toadoflicking · March 2013

I don't see why it wouldn't be legal. In the United States, anyway. There are a number of countries, though, where online gambling is illegal. Of course, that depends on whether or not it's actually gambling. If you look at Zen as money, then it's gambling. But, if you look at Zen as a "player experience customization medium," then it's not money, but rather something you've paid money for. Since Zen can't be converted into cash, you're basically just paying money to play games rather than truly gambling. Still, I'd rather leave Zen out of it. Directly, anyway.

I would like to see some sort of tavern games, but I'd rather they be based in the lore of the game. Instead of poker, we'd play Three Dragon Ante. They could make up some sort of dice game. Then, people could play for fun or they could have competitive tournaments with gold or AD buy-ins.

bluesteel8 · March 2013

Worst idea yet.

zebular · March 2013

Since this game is open to users of all ages, real money gambling is something that just won't happen. Locked boxes are about the extent they can get away with, and even then in my opinion, that is crossing the line.

I'd rather see mini-games that have history and lore in the Realms, not games from the real world.

vernednd · March 2013

zebular wrote: »

Since this game is open to users of all ages, real money gambling is something that just won't happen. Locked boxes are about the extent they can get away with, and even then in my opinion, that is crossing the line.

I'd rather see mini-games that have history and lore in the Realms, not games from the real world.

I have to agree with Zebular. I would rather find multiplayer minigames in taverns that at most you can gamble with ingame currency like copper/gold. Games like dice, bones, etc... I would also think that the suggestions I have seen in the past about having a bard class with similar effects to what entertainers could do in SWG would be awesome as well. (Hopefully we have some bard npc's in the taverns that we can link to foundry content at least).

Cheers!

trikiran · March 2013

tricide5150 wrote: »

*** IF YOU LIKE THIS IDEA PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE IT ***

Ok, here is an idea. I used to be a High Limit Blackjack and Texas Holdem' dealer in a cardroom and a nice big Stations Casino. I think a great idea for the VIP room is to add, a Never Holdem' tables where we can use our real in game moneys to play a variety of games. From limit to no limit games. I know the rules inside and out. I am willing to help out with this if you guys add it in. The rule sets of the game probably wouldn't be much work for you guys and I can help define the rules. We do know that casinos are apart of the world. So, lets make one.
To let you know why its worth the trouble to code into your game. Look at the fact that this is a pay game, people will want to purchase diamonds and gold from you guys to play the casino game as well. Know that, gambling is even more addicting that simple gaming when you add in stuff to win. As a dealer I am not lieing to you when I say that this added to your game whether its just for VIP or not, you could have non founders tip the door man to enter for the day
If more people like this and make up more ideas for the Holdem format please let me know, if we get this in we can start a portfolio for more. So, for now - Stick to ideas about the Holdem casino.

Thank you,

Justin

I am a fan of any minigame casino being added to the the game. I don't like the idea of real money, but of ingame money sure thing. I play mobile texas holdem at least 3 times a day for a hand or so. So big fan of it in an mmo.

kormai · March 2013

If neverwinter would start with real money gambling etc it would ruin the game.
You will be drawing the wrong kind of people ingame

kinsaeda · March 2013

When Trik said "real in game money", I really took that to mean the ingame gold. Making bets using in game currency is illegal or against a general audience rating? Real question, I'd just like to know.

vikinggamer · March 2013

I think it is a good idea so long as the odds and payouts are kept relatively fair and even. Also limit it to just in-game gold, maybe astral diamonds, but definitely not zen.

Also, the games should come from forgotten realms lore, lets keep it true to this world.

Finally, having this stuff in the VIP room is fine but don't limit it to just VIPs, probably should have other places around town that offer these games for non-VIPs

I also cannot see why this would be a problem even for kids so long as we are never gambling real money and it is kept to the level of entertainment. I think gambling boxes that you have to pay actual money to open are far closer to the line than in game gambling with in game currency. Also keep in mind that this world has drinking in taverns, thieves, evil gods and other depictions of other unsavory activities. The Drow, for example, are not exactly misunderstood emo kids after all, even if they look a bit the part.

darkstarkirian · March 2013

No Zen or Astral Diamonds (as AD are a proxy for Zen anyways). Anyform of "real money" most likely has nasty hurdles/permits/fines to go thru.

Star Trek Online accomplishes their "in game gambling" with a Star Trek authentic item, the Dabo table. Dabo is basically a Roulette/Slot machine combo game. It requires no skill at all since the it always has random results. With the "payout" always being a special currency unto itself, Gold Pressed Latinum (GPL), which is used in very few places in game, Doff Assignments and the Gold Pressed Latinum store. The GPL store sells special cosmetic items ONLY and are limited in their use, like the Holoemitter that changes the appearance of you or your ship. just appearance, not abilities.

Now then, I feel that most simple Dice only games are appropriate to D&D. I vaguely remember reading about a D&D version of Craps a long time ago. Version, as in, rolling two 1s was Dragon Eyes, not snake eyes, you lose etc.
The Rewards being for winning these games should be some sort of unique in game currency that could buy such things as Illision Disguise: Zombie, Ork, etc. cosmetic only, no power.

Plus, putting it in the VIP room only, it will see an ever decreasing amount of use by the overall player percentage, so it really needs to be "general pubic" if Cryptic is gonna spend time making Dice mini games.

VIP room needs some gambling. Former High limit dealer willing to help!

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