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One weapon type per class? Is this true?

gadzewksgadzewks Member Posts: 8 Arc User
edited February 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
Read on another forum from someone who claimed to have played the game:

"guardian fighter MUST use longsword/shield.

and greatweapon fighter MUST use 2h sword.

no hammer, axe, mace, no nothing. only 1 weapon per class."

How accurate is this?

In my experience, newer versions of D&D never really limited weapons based on class. The only limitations from 4e are those that each power states: (ie: Deep Cut - Requirement: You must be wielding a light blade.).

Would be nice to know the facts about this for the game.
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  • muzrub333muzrub333 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I read that too, which is why I inquired in the Fighter forum. As usual our Truth Seeker was being a bit Cryptic...funny how that works. :rolleyes:
  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    The utility require the weapon type to be locked. So GF will always weild a shield and one handed weapon.

    Can that weapon be changed to 1 handed hammer? Maybe, maybe not.

    Similarly GWF will always wield greatsword. Can he also wield greathammer, greataxe? maybe, maybe not.
    Can GWF wield longsword? No.


    Remember it is beta, and even if they are not shown wielding greataxe, in release the GWF can still have greataxe and scythe (as both are 2 handed weapons).
  • gadzewksgadzewks Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I really hope if they are locking weapon types like this, that they allow for variations of weapons within that weapon category.

    IE: Great Weapon - Greatsword, GreatAxe, Halberd, Heavy Flail, Falchion, Greatclub, etc etc

    Game will feel REALLY limiting if it only allows you to just use ONE of those.
  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0E6Yw-M1YY

    Watch the loot at 39m, 5s

    +2 club of ogrekind for great weapon fighter.


    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!


    Rejoice!!!

    Happy Happy Joy Joy!
  • ragnarlawlragnarlawl Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 120 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2013
    Gil you frighten and excite me at the same time.
    Like a schoolgirl.
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  • muzrub333muzrub333 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    gillrmn wrote: »
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0E6Yw-M1YY

    Watch the loot at 39m, 5s



    +2 club of ogrekind for great weapon fighter.


    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!


    Rejoice!!!

    Happy Happy Joy Joy!

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    Okay, I can get back to my normal white russian drinking self....ahhhh yeahhhh The Dude Abides!

    Gil, I could hug you...real manly bear hugs. ;)
  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Now for the finishing blow, crypticmapolis had once said this earlier that he sees no reason why Great Weapon Fighter cannot wield other 2Handed weapons like scythe.

    So we have 2Handed clubs, scythe, greataxe and greatsword for GWF!!!

    (Greataxe because trailer and many pictures show it - plus earlier screenshots(year ago) show a dwarf GWF using greataxe in combat)

    Yayayayayayaya!

    Let me mash thiss barrel of ale with greataxe and we can all bath in it!
  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzizGoZAnxA#t=00m22s

    Great weapon fighter with greatAXE on right
  • syberghostsyberghost Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 2,474
    edited February 2013
    Keep in mind that in MMOs, weapon art is one of the last things to be hooked up. So you may very well see things in a video that aren't actually the things they look like. There was art in STO that wasn't there until the week of launch.

    Heck, there was art in STO that wasn't there until after launch. :)
  • askopdkapokaskopdkapok Member Posts: 648 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    gadzewks wrote: »
    Read on another forum from someone who claimed to have played the game:

    "guardian fighter MUST use longsword/shield.

    and greatweapon fighter MUST use 2h sword.

    no hammer, axe, mace, no nothing. only 1 weapon per class."

    How accurate is this?

    In my experience, newer versions of D&D never really limited weapons based on class. The only limitations from 4e are those that each power states: (ie: Deep Cut - Requirement: You must be wielding a light blade.).

    Would be nice to know the facts about this for the game.

    Are you serious?

    Is this an immersive AD&D based RPG or an arcade game?
  • askopdkapokaskopdkapok Member Posts: 648 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    syberghost wrote: »
    Keep in mind that in MMOs, weapon art is one of the last things to be hooked up. So you may very well see things in a video that aren't actually the things they look like. There was art in STO that wasn't there until the week of launch.

    Heck, there was art in STO that wasn't there until after launch. :)

    Heck, STO was missing something more important than that at launch - a playable game.
  • muzrub333muzrub333 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Okay, so looks like I broke my own golden rule...never judge an MMO until it launches. Beta's use way too many placeholder items to pass judgement. This is what happens when the gas station I get b-fast at is out of coffee. /Grumpy
  • gadzewksgadzewks Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    This is awesome news. Great find!
  • chili1179chili1179 Member Posts: 1,511 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Proof yet again that someone is basing the final product on alpha content.

    They should find whoever this alpha leaker is and ban his IP :P
    There is a rumor floating around that I am working on a new foundry quest. It was started by me.
  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    chili1179 wrote: »
    Proof yet again that someone is basing the final product on alpha content.

    They should find whoever this alpha leaker is and ban his IP :P

    I don't really think it was someone who "played the game". Most probably it was just a speculation. It took me an hour to find the information.

    If it was an actual player, he/she would have seen the loot dropped in game and would have already known that you can wield more than one weapon.
  • voqarvoqar Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Probably 1 weapon per class. This is how it is in raiderz, tera, and other newer games. Even games like TSW and GW are pretty limited in how weapons work. It's a lame trend.
  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    voqar wrote: »
    Probably 1 weapon per class. This is how it is in raiderz, tera, and other newer games. Even games like TSW and GW are pretty limited in how weapons work. It's a lame trend.

    You missed my warcry and rejoicing. Just check #5 post and rejoice with others.
  • nemesis788450nemesis788450 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    great weapon fighter seems not to be an issue...maybe guardian is - how does he stab with a hammer...so i guess the skill is the limiting factor...maybe they will also charge for other weapons to use? but if the weapon choice is so strictly limited, it will limit heavily the customiation options and probably also the appeal of the game
  • ambisinisterrambisinisterr Member, Neverwinter Moderator Posts: 10,462 Community Moderator
    edited February 2013
    muzrub333 wrote: »
    Okay, so looks like I broke my own golden rule...never judge an MMO until it launches. Beta's use way too many placeholder items to pass judgement.

    I think too many people have been assuming because things aren't there in the Alpha/Beta Stages they won't be in at launch.

    Let me put it this way guys...
    What is more important, balancing the class to work as it should or making sure every weapon type is available for every class?

    The limited item selection is pretty standard for early testing phases. Other weapon and armor options are easily added and balanced later rather than focusing on balancing both parts at the same time. If people are more worried about whether a Scythe is better than a Greataxe which is better than a Greatsword or whatever then the feedback from the actual class gameplay would be much harder to manage.

    I'm pretty sure we'll have all the options we want when options are important. For now we need to make sure the classes and game in general work properly.
  • ogariousogarious Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 740 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Ogarious says, "Kinda hard to smash undead smushy heads with big sharp pointy thing!"
  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    nemesis788450 wrote: »
    great weapon fighter seems not to be an issue...maybe guardian is - how does he stab with a hammer...

    Bring a nail along? Or maybe a stake?
  • nemesis788450nemesis788450 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    ambisinisterr wrote: »
    I think too many people have been assuming because things aren't there in the Alpha/Beta Stages they won't be in at launch.

    Let me put it this way guys...
    What is more important, balancing the class to work as it should or making sure every weapon type is available for every class?

    The limited item selection is pretty standard for early testing phases. Other weapon and armor options are easily added and balanced later rather than focusing on balancing both parts at the same time. If people are more worried about whether a Scythe is better than a Greataxe which is better than a Greatsword or whatever then the feedback from the actual class gameplay would be much harder to manage.

    I'm pretty sure we'll have all the options we want when options are important. For now we need to make sure the classes and game in general work properly.

    on one hand youre right, on the other hand...this is kinda basic stuff that is in any game so even discussing its availability is really weird...it just seems that the devs are waaaaaaaaaaaaay behind their time line if that stuff isnt even in...
  • pilf3rpilf3r Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Rogue from level 1 to 29 only ever got daggers except for once I got a one hand axe but it was lower level and I npc'd it. I hope there will be more weapons added in the other betas or at launch at least.
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  • neofite1neofite1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    gillrmn wrote: »
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzizGoZAnxA#t=00m22s

    Great weapon fighter with greatAXE on right

    Also at are 41 secs into the video, thats either and GF with a mace or a battle cleric with a mace and shield.
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