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markfalcone
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Where are the hybrid classes in the list of future classes? Particularly the bards. Always a fun play in my book. Monks, not bad, but always had issues with rules that didn't make it fun. Bards? ALways fun to play, even the 2nd edition bard kits. Hoping to hear about bards here. Did I mention bards?
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I don't know about earlier monks, but 3e monks were bad for me, 3.5e monks were just ok but not anything much - however 4e monks are Fun Fun!!! Happy happy joy joy!
So you should try it. 4e monk is different
Although monks in FR are rare.
EDIT: FR monks are those earlier real monks who used to write books and not do any fights and stuff. Yeah monks are oriental, but if you make a background a bit differently, you can role play as anything. Point is monks are people who live among peasents and fight for peasents. So their weapons are more like peasent weapons and dirt poor kind of thingies... thats why they have no money for armor or swords ...
Love this notation because according to research I did for a paper my Freshman year of college, that is exactly what ninja really were, particularly the Iga ninja. 99% of what they were doing to earn a reputation was trickery designed to frighten people from the mountains of Iga so the military powers would leave them alone. Poisons were not elaborate chemistry but simple things such as dung to cause long and drawn out infections that would eventually kill. It is hypothesized that a majority of tengu or demon legends come from the Iga's use of masks, smoke, and strange sounds to scare away strangers. Koga, on the other hand, were a family hired by Tokugawa. They were more like rogues and bandits, learning ways of assassination and theft from necessity and then honing such abilities under a military-like secret training. It is said Tokugawa's castle staff was made up of the members from the Koga province who took him up on his offer to pay them to do what they'd always been best at. Even they never used anything that couldn't easily be had, from building nails (shuriken) to threshers (nunchaku). That is also why ninjato, swords, were short and never very sharp. They were recast farming implements.
I know that feels, bro. The good (or bad) thing about bards is that they can range from being bottom feeders on my boots to OPed untouchables through their multiclassing, depending on the player.
I'll be looking forward to it...
we'll get em when they leave the thread
Out of curiosity did you actually read the bard class?
You'll see how powerful they are if you did.
And even though bards are drastically different in 4E, they are a fun and powerful class!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOUksDJCijw
You can clearly witness the Bard's skills being effectively utilized in the vid link above, at the following time intervals noted below:
17:24 to 17:47 - The Bard seduces a wild mage (fellow party member)
23:10 to 23:27 - The Bard seduces a celibate priestess
26:40 to 26:54 - The Bard pacifies a goblin horde using his music, avoiding a major violent confrontation
29:01 to 29:11 - The Bard dodges a second goblin attack
31:14 to 31:28 - The Bard seduces the barmaid
32:51 to 33:09 - The Bard buffs the party with battle music
33:13 to 33:18 - The Bard assists the party with defeating a group of zombie-ninjas
34:44 to 35:10 - The Bard convinces an NPC Paladin to leave the room
36:54 to 37:08 - The Bard obtained valuable information to assist the party regarding villain's location
39:01 to 39:35 - The Bard uses his knowledge of lore to assist the party
58:16 to 58:40 - The Bard uses his skill to break a fellow party member free from a demon's control
1:14:11 to 1:14:47 - The Bard backstabs a target to great effect
1:24:31 to 1:25:26 - The Bard uses his music to weaken the main villain's power and assist the party
1:36:20 to 1:36:29 - The Bard seduces both the priestess and the barmaid (again)
Bards - The backbone of any party...come join us, won't you?
Well iirc Cadderly the cleric in R.A. Salvatore's "The Cleric Quintet" was married to a more oriental styled monk named Danica(?). I also believe there were mentions of monk orders in Neverwinter Nights if you talked to the dwarf monk hireling about his past.
But I would love to see the 4E incarnation of Bards in the game. They were great leader role characters that buffed the party like non-other.
my favorite reasons for playing a bard:
1.) underrated, played less often. this makes me special :P
2.) jack of all trades. i can cast spells, i can melee, and i have a wide variety of skills.
3.) I like charisma based characters that can influence others.
4.) the pied piper--controlling mobs
5.) I like rocking out with my lute.
6.) my synergetic and buffing abilities make me desired as a party member
7.) Bardic Knowledge FTW. my favorite roll in pnp. I usually can cajole my DM into making me an expert on most things.
not to mention how the class allows for a lot of diversification by taking feats from other classes, be able to use items otherwise restricted, etc etc.
@GodofThorns: The Games is hilarious, but I hated that bard! Not that he wasn't being exactly what a bard is, only seeing that dough-boy of an actor performing those bardic feats. Then again, that's the idea behind D&D, huh?